Jim Lincoln wrote: Why, Mike, it's right there on the Declaration of Independence about the pursuit of happiness.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, THAT THEY ARE ENDOWED BY THEIR CREATOR with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Are you saying you are created by your government???
While we are at it, might as well throw out the "general welfare" argument you might try. Because if you are faring well, then you are not sick.
Constitution still law of land and you can't name a place in it where it is said to be the government's responsibility to provide healthcare.
Our government does "provide" healthcare for a group of our citizens, they are known as veterans. How's that working out? Not good if your are sick that is for sure.
Long waits, personal doctors visits don't happen, people feigning illness to get medical attention, medicine and medical procedures denied, doctors refusing to work (can't blame them you wouldn't work without compensation) ever increasing cost mark ALL government run healthcare systems including ours, it is not compassion it is control. Not a legitimate government function.
John Yurich USA wrote: Isn't is good enough that I attend a Baptist Church on Sunday mornings without ceasing to attend the Catholic Church on Saturday afternoons?
All I see in your "testimony" is what works you do. You attend a Baptist church, you attend Mass (btw, how does line up with the admonition from Scripture, neither be partaker of other men's sins: keep thyself pure?)you walked an aisle. John Y, salvation is of the Lord, it involves getting a new nature from Heaven above. One that is implanted by God into the quickened soul of the undeserving sinner. It is the work of the Triune God whereby we are translated FROM the kingdom of darkness into the kingdom of His precious Son. We are given His Spirit calling out Abba Father and a desire to please Him in all that we do. According to Titus 2 it teaches us to deny ungodliness (like the RCC) and worldly lusts and to live soberly, righteously, and godly in this world, because He redeemed us FROM all iniquity (like the RCC Mass)and as we look for His glorious appearing we are zealous, not devoid, of good works wrought by God in our lives for His glory It is not a testimony of what I have done but what God has done. You're zealous for the RCC to defend it as a "true" Christian faith.
John Yurich USA wrote: That is totally false to state that Catholics do not believe in the biblical Virgin** Mary.
Ever hear of The Immaculate Conception
"Let‚Äôs take the second citation first. Mary, too, required a Savior. Like all other descendants of Adam, she was subject to the necessity of contracting original sin. But by a special intervention of God, undertaken at the instant she was conceived, she was preserved from the stain of original sin and its consequences. She was therefore redeemed by the grace of Christ, but in a special way‚ÄĒby anticipation"
Pope Leo XIII: ‚ÄúThe recourse we have to Mary in prayer follows upon the office she continuously fills by the side of the throne of God as Mediatrix of Divine grace; being by worthiness and by merit most acceptable to Him, and, therefore, surpassing in power all the angels and saints in Heaven. Now, this merciful office of hers, perhaps, appears in no other form of prayer so manifestly as it does in the Rosary. ...‚ÄĚ (Iucunda Semper Expectatione, n. 2)
** had several children
To say the Catholics believe in the Mary found in the Bible is totally false.
Unprofitable Servant wrote: If I may add my two cents. My research says you are not accurate brother Dave in what you state about Martial Arts. It has nothing to do with Mars I practiced taekwando until I couldn't afford it and was 2 belts shy of a black belt. The main instructor was a 6th degree black belt with 5 world championships. Religion or God was never mentioned in any of my training or discussions. We bow before and after sparring to any partner regardless of rank. We should be careful about putting Western thinking on Eastern traditions. God bless.
Just for clarification, when I stated it has nothing to do with Mars, I mean the worship of Mars. Mars was the Roman "god" of war but that makes Martial arts no more pagan than us using the names given to days of the week or months of the year. You wouldn't accuse a believer of the pagan practice of sun worship or being uninformed for stating today is Sunday.
If I may add my two cents. My research says you are not accurate brother Dave in what you state about Martial Arts. It has nothing to do with Mars I practiced taekwando until I couldn't afford it and was 2 belts shy of a black belt. The main instructor was a 6th degree black belt with 5 world championships. Religion or God was never mentioned in any of my training or discussions. We bow before and after sparring to any partner regardless of rank. We should be careful about putting Western thinking on Eastern traditions. God bless.
Adriel wrote: I'm sure you will agree with me Ups that the verses you quoted are all past tense in other words 'after' the event of accepting from his wife the illicit fruit. Paul says quote, "And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." Now WHY did Paul bring up this point at all?? And what is he saying? First he makes a strong allegation implying Eve's position at this time. This demonstrate Eve as sinner whereas demonstrates (at this time) - Adam's "innocence" Second what Paul is saying in this phrase is that Adam was not guilty of the disobedience/sin at this point in time. Genesis 3:17 states Adam's sin was, "Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife," (God's words) Adam listened to the "person *IN* sin" - His wife. Her guilt at this time is in no doubt. So who does 'God blame' (for the fruit picking) by this accusation??
God did not blame Eve for Adam's transgression. At the time of Genesis 3:17 Adam's guilt was also not in doubt. Still have no clue what point you are trying to make.
If all actions are predetermined by God then why the following admonitions
flee youthful lust make no provision for the flesh put you on the Lord Jesus Christ Walk in the Spirit and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh come out and be separate pursue holiness keep yourself from idols mortify therefore your members yield yourself unto God yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness work out your own salvation with fear and trembling cleanse yourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit
Obviously the list could go on and on, but it is definitely not a let go and let God.
God's omniscience doesn't make Him the cause of all things. Speaking in human terms (we are no comparison to God Almighty) I know if I put my vehicle in reverse it will go backwards but it doesn't happen until I put my foot on the brake of the vehicle I started and put the gear to R and release the brake. Knowing what will happen is not the cause of it happening.
We do all things through Christ who strengthens us and all we do is enabled to us by the grace of God which works in us for without Him we could do nothing. But our doctrine is found in the Word of God not the creeds of men.
Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, And in sin my mother conceived me.
For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother‚Äôs womb. 14 I will give thanks to You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made; Wonderful are Your works, And my soul knows it very well. 15 My frame was not hidden from You, When I was made in secret, And skillfully wrought in the depths of the earth; 16 Your eyes have seen my unformed substance; And in Your book were all written The days that were ordained for me,
Thus says the Lord who made you And formed you from the womb
Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, And before you were born I consecrated you
...the Child who has been conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit. 21 She will bear a Son; and you shall call His name Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins.‚ÄĚ (are you going to say Jesus wasn't human at conception?)
For behold, when the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby (end of 2nd trimester) leaped in my womb for joy
Even in the Jim from Lincoln version the Bible clearly states the unborn are His making and are human from conception (medical science agrees they are human from concep
Jim Lincoln wrote: UPS, guess what, all these emergency visits that are paid for indigent patients are covered by people who the hospitals think can pay, and they really sock it (to us ) So, hospitals may or may not turn away patient
so instead of acknowledging you made a false statement you just double down and change the focus of your statement. However you worse false statement was about dear sister ladybug, but note your answer was the same you doubled down and changed the topic.
You're always posting links, post the stat in countries that have so called universal healthcare that shows that babies are "saved" more in them. I can show that after birth people DON'T get better healthcare, in fact they fake injuries and ailments to get to the doctor because they are only allotted 10 minutes a month and have to wait at least 2 weeks to see a GP. It is a failure every place it is implemented. Just ask the Canadians who don't have the money to come to the US to get the help they don't have weeks or months to wait for in their country.
I was unaware that if you went to the emergency room with a medical condition, say a heart attack or a broken bone, they would send you away if you didn't have insurance. WAIT!! they don't Thus you statement that they don't give medical aid to those who are alive and need it is FALSE.
The premise is FLAWED it is NOT the government's (when you say government money then you mean money taken from the taxpayer, they have none of their own) responsibility to provide healthcare. You want to see how Government run healthcare works, ask a vet who is still waiting (for months)to see a doctor or cannot get his prescription filled due to government bureaucracy. Government run healthcare is NOT a compassionate solution. It is what President Obama said about the elderly lady who needed pacemaker, forget the surgery, just take a pain pill and deal with it.
Jim Lincoln wrote: Hey, they're against killing babies, but killing adults is fine!
Families enrolled in bronze plans will have average deductibles of $12,393 on a premium of $4200 a year according to CNBC. So, Jim, how exactly is this helping the poor have insurance they can use? Must be the democratic plan is don't get sick and if you do get sick go ahead and die.
Ignominious Emirakan wrote: "Salvation" with little effect? "Church"- can mean a dead church Rev3:And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead. -/ Rev2:9 "I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan." -assembly of people not a living up to claim- 3:9a"Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet,..." True heirs vs claimants- wheat vs tares - vines w/ fruit vs thorn bushes. "Where's the fruit?"
thanks IE for quoting me out of context to make your "point" May I suggest you read and if necessary reread the posts of sister ladybug as she has put things so much more succinctly than I.
Jim Lincoln wrote: May I point out UPS: 2 Timothy 4:3
There is not a hunger for God's word.
If your verse is descriptive of all people of this day and age then why does J Mac have a website with sermons and podcasts? Why are there sites like this one with literally thousands of sermons, books, music and podcasts to which people can listen?
from the article
"The vast majority of 1,526 randomly selected adults in the poll also identified as Christians.
Three in four of the respondents said sermons or talks that either teach about Scripture or help people connect religion to their own lives are the main factors behind their church attendance."
Are you saying, based upon internet links and John MacArthur writings that 1145 lied to the survey people? To be sure we know not how many if any of these people were saved.
Pretty sure the vast majority of people who post here and the many others who frequent this web site have a God given hunger for His Word.
Jim Lincoln wrote: There is not a hunger for God's word.
I guess J Mac missed these words from our Lord
John15:14:15¬† Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.¬†henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you
We are indeed His servants/slaves bought with the precious blood of Christ but we also enjoy a raised position given to us by our Lord as His brethren (Matthew 12:48-50)
One also wonders if there is not a hunger for God's Word, amongst believers, how in the world do we have a site like SermonAudio and other similar sites?
ladybug wrote: "Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world." James 1:27 it is not one or the other, but both. -- no one has disputed that. With that said, who are you referring to when you say 'when the church goes astray'? What 'church'? Who has the spirit of apathy penned? How would you know what every believer from around the world is doing/not doing? Again, I remind you there is a visible church and then there's the true bride of Christ. Can you distinguish between them? There's no doubt the visible churches are more worldly than godly, many being pastored by goats who prostitute the truth for financial gain. "the love of the brethren going cold" - I doubt this statement holds much consistent truth. It's bad enough the heathen rage against God's elect, how tragic when so called 'Christians' point their fingers as well?
Heb 12:12,13¬† Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees;¬† and make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way; but let it rather be healed.¬†