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Pastor Mike wrote: All that's required is to become a sycophant and an individual can have the slate wiped clean of all past and future transgressions. It makes this life a complete meaningless farce
Pester. You don't know nor understand what faith is. You probably think you do and assume it to be just another human faculty. But that just illustrates your complete ignorance of Christianity. You are under the dominion of sin and you are therefore blind to the truth which is why you cannot read the Word of God and receive its truth. There is a spiritual discernment available to Christians which you simply cannot attain in any shape or form whatsoever. God elects His disciples and and only His predestinated elect are regenerated and receive the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Nothing man can do initiates this. As for the rest they are reprobate, atheist and remain in complete darkness as to these facts and Bible teachings. I do not believe for a second that you can receive this or any Bible precept and doctrine. Human ability and faculty remains firmly entrenched upon earth and remains entirely mortal. Sin is a power over the mortal which prevents him from knowing God and truth.
Pastor Mike wrote: The reason atheists are building churches
You atheists really hate the TRUTH don't you pester. Under the dominion of sin you cannot perceive truth or light.
Bible states your future is... "8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." Rev 21.
Atheists belong to Satan... "14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15 And what concord hath Christ with BELIAL? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? 2Cor 6.
Bible on those who do not hold the doctrine of Christ is... "10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: 11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds." 2John
""He said he believed that meant excluding those who were gay as well as heterosexuals living together out of wedlock. "I think it's absolutely horrible. It's the antithesis of what Christianity should be," Neuen said. "We should be reaching out and embracing and showing love to all people who are peaceful.""
These people are a joke not a church. Clearly they have rejected Scripture from their so called "church."
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
"For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another..... ... even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge"
Finally outrage expressed over this Christ-dishonouring program, though one has to wonder why the silence on the part of N.I.'s Protestant Gospel Ministers? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1252104/STEPHEN-GLOVER-How-Gods-Channel-4-ask-blood-soaked-murderer-make-programme-Jesus.html How in God's name could Channel 4 ask this blood-soaked murderer to make a programme about Jesus?
"How on earth could this happen? You may suspect Gerry Adams was chosen to discourse on Jesus because he has freely admitted his sins, and apologised for his past. Christianity, after all, is a religion that extols forgiveness, and puts a high value on repentance. But Mr Adams is not sorry for what he did - not, of course, that he admits to having ever killed anyone. He says at least twice that violence was the only course open to people like himself. I have seen a preview of the programme and it begins with a shot of the former terrorist at prayer. He informs us that he went to Mass while in prison. Then, with his vulpine features, and a sinister smile revealing shining, remodelled teeth, he tells us that 'along with others' he 'helped to bring peace to Ireland'. While stressing that he doesn't feel he has any blood on his hands, he says he wants 'to explore Jesus's message of forgiveness"
Some CHRISTIANS & GOSPEL MINISTERS who elevated terrorists into government vainly try to justify their actions by citing Romans 13. Mr. PAISLEY's own exposition of this passage as cited below agrees with that of Ivan Foster, retired FPC Gospel Minister.
As Mr. Foster has pointed out in his article 'God's Glorious Alternative to Power-Sharing with Murderers', Mr. Paisley could have ‚ÄúOPTED OUT‚ÄĚ of the deal. James 4:17 ‚ÄúTherefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.‚ÄĚ
Ivan has well-spoken in his article: The providence of God again reveals the evil at the heart of the political regime in Ulster http://www.ivanfoster.net/pdf/Dec0901.pdf
Excerpt: When this alliance was first mooted, I used the words of Jehu the prophet to Jehoshaphatwhen Jehu rebuked the king for his political alliance with Ahab to condemn such an action. I was bitterly criticised for drawing a comparison between the two events. I quote those words again and challenge any to deny now the legitimacy of drawing such a parallel. ‚ÄúAnd Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him, and said to king Jehoshaphat, Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD? therefore is wrath upon thee from before the LORD,‚ÄĚ 2 Chron.19:2
The Reality Is wrote? ‚Äúps Did you know that politics is not religion?‚ÄĚ
Those lines have been blurred by Ian Paisley himself.
Elder J. Dale Lewis: ‚ÄúIt is clear that as men of God, the man of God cannot assume the office of the politician for reasons of his consecration to his call. The politicians are sent & speak for the people while the man of God is sent by Christ & speaks to the people. The politician is forbidden to speak freely for God & speaks only in behalf of the people he represents. The man of God, on the other hand, is required to speak only of the things of God to the people the Lord has sent to him. "No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier." 2nd Timothy 2:4.
The politician carries the desires & the concerns of his constituents while the preacher carries the word & commands of the Lord. The politician must speak the interest of his constituents. The man of God is required by the Holy Ghost to speak the interest & desires of no one but the one that sent him; no not even his own interests & opinions. "Jesus saith unto them, my meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work." John 4:34; 5:30; 6:38; not the will of the people."
Retired FPC Gospel Minister Ivan Foster explains how I. Paisley / FPC once understood Rom. 13 Power-sharing with murderers ‚ÄĒ right or wrong? Link: http://www.ivanfoster.net/pdf/July0701.pdf
‚ÄúOn May 20th, 1998, the General Presbytery of the Free Presbyterian Church of Ulster was associated with an advert in the local press, calling on all to say NO" in the referendum on the Good Friday Agreement. It was signed by most if not all of the then ministers of the Free Presbyterian church.
. . part of that 1998 advert reads: ‚ÄúWe the undersigned, having professed faith in Christ as our Lord and Saviour and bound in conscience by the infallibility of the Word of God, declare the truth that governments have divinely been given the power of the sword for the punishment of evil doers, and the power of protection for the praise of them that do well. The Agreement flies in the face of Holy Scripture and punishes those that do well and praises those that are evil doers. We protest against this outrage.‚ÄĚ Romans 13:3-4.‚ÄĚ
Dr. Ian Paisley was the prime mover in getting the Free Presbyterian Church to agree to the 1988 Solemn Covenant and the placing of the Presbytery statement in the1998 advertisement which called for the rejection of power-sharing with murderers.‚ÄĚ
Timely comments from a God-fearing man, Ivan Foster, Retired FREE PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH Gospel Minister:
THE SHAME OF THE DUP STANCE ON MURDER Link: http://www.ivanfoster.net/pdf/Mar0901.pdf
Excerpt: ‚ÄúTruth and righteousness are deemed less important than political expediency
Infamously, the DUP chose to enter a power-sharing arrangement with the murderous Sinn Fein/IRA organisation, taking them into government and into the joint office of First and Deputy First Minister. Martin McGuinness, self-confessed IRA leader and operative, as a result of the DUP's decision now rules Northern Ireland in conjunction with Mr. Peter Robinson, the leader of the DUP.
Truth and righteousness were abandoned for political power and temporal glory.‚ÄĚ
I do not take exception to your statement that Christians pray for the conversion of terrorists. It is a basic tenet of Christianity that we pray for our enemies. Nevertheless I maintain that ehud's comment goes to the heart of the matter.
As I have already stated, truth and justice are central tenets of biblical Christianity as well. Those who hold positions of public trust are to execute justice. How much more should this be the burden of a PREACHER? The signal verse at I.Paisley's EIPS website is Jer. 50:2. Justice is integral to upholding the Gospel standard!
Mr. Paisley's remark "I'll jail McGuinness any day soon", though said in jest, betrays where he truly believes he should be. That being said, Mr. Paisley could just as well pray for M. McGuinness's conversion were he in jail.
Mr. Paisley, by occupying the position of preacher and politician for decades, has brought the leaven of politics and the contention it has wrought into the church. Because he is a prominent preacher, his words and actions have wider implications for the church of Jesus Christ that go beyond Ulster.
John - UK, I think Ehud's comment does go to the heart of the matter! What about truth and justice, central tenants of biblical Christianity? Was it just to be party to a deal that ultimately brought to N.I. a terrorist-inclusive government? Consider the words of Mr. Paisley uttered with levity in 2007 when he was First Minister of N.I. (though it was and is no laughing matter)
'I'll jail McGuinness any day soon', jokes Paisley (by Suzanne Breen, Sunday Tribune) here: http://www.nuzhound.com/articles/Sunday_Tribune/arts2007/may6_Ill_jail_McGuinness_soon__SBreen.php
Now consider Mr. Paisley's words in 2002 when he wrote with rejoicing:
'The Northern Ireland Executive, which included IRA/Sinn Fein terrorists, has fallen! ‚ÄėThe Lord Reigneth‚Äô Ps 99 v 1 here: http://www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=fallen
‚ÄúTruth can never be finally dethroned, so long as the God of Truth reigns. It may be kicked in the gutter, and those who uplift Truth‚Äôs banner may suffer, but in the end light will expel all darkness. I would ask you to read the following Scriptures: Ps.99:1; Jeremiah 5:22; Ps. 75:6,7; Dan. 2:21; Matt. 24:6; Rom. 8:31; Matt. 10:29-31.‚ÄĚ
I think the "original comment of ehud - belfast" goes to the heart of the matter, and on that account, bears repeating:
"elijah did not pray with ahab what fellowship has light with darkness and i mean darkness of the darkest dye. This should not have happened and is an affront to all those who have been butchered at the hands of maguiness `s ira.It is a disgrace and a true exposure of paisley`s folly and brings ot memory his attacks on Billy Graham etc.We need a Nathan to rebuke this man.
One serious point to note -this will be removed by the editor as this may offend pro fpc owner of sermon audio -who should be defending the truth rather than supressing it"
GG said: ‚ÄúJesus lived in Gallilee, not the most Jewish of places to live.‚ÄĚ
The very notion of a Hebrew-born Messiah, first making his appeal to the Hebrew people (‚Äėthe lost sheep of the house of Israel‚Äô), supported by the Hebrew Scriptures, in anything other than the Hebrew language would seem a contradiction in terms.
What is more, Galilee as a region was well-nigh as Jewish as Judaea. Josephus described its population in his day as predominantly Jewish, while ‚ÄúHebrew language and literature‚ÄĚ still ‚Äúdominated the region at this time‚ÄĚ, as Chancey and Meyers note. The Mishnah says that
‚ÄúThe men of Galilee wrote in the same manner as the men of Jerusalem‚ÄĚ.
To suggest, therefore, that while Hebrew might have been the vernacular of Judaea, Aramaic will have to do for the Jewish population of Galilee, is a discrimination which is historically untenable.
 Mark Chancey and Eric M. Meyers, ‚ÄúHow Jewish was Sepphoris in Jesus‚Äô time?‚ÄĚ, Biblical Archaeology Review, (July ‚Äď August, 2000), p. 33.
But what does this mean, in terms of our enquiry into Jesus‚Äô language? A great deal, actually. Self-evidently there is a nexus between the Jewish vernacular of first century Israel, and the language Jesus spoke. It would fly in the face of common sense if the ‚ÄúWord made flesh‚ÄĚ addressed the very countrymen he was first sent to by his Father, in anything other than their normal tongue.(See Matthew 15:24; John 5:36; 1:11.)
Consistent with this, we find Jesus speaking of the ‚Äújot‚ÄĚ and ‚Äútittle‚ÄĚ of the Law in the Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5:18). By universal consent, this refers to the text of the Hebrew Bible. Let two modern authorities suffice ‚Äď one Catholic, one Protestant:
‚Äú‚ÄėJot‚Äô refers to ‚Äėyod‚Äô, the smallest letter of the Hebrew alphabet; ‚Äėtittle‚Äô is a slight serif [or hook] on a Hebrew letter that distinguishes it from another‚ÄĚ.
(The New Jerome Bible Commentary)
Likewise John Broadus, in his Commentary on Matthew:
‚ÄúJot, in the Greek iota, signifies the Hebrew letter iod (pronounced yod) ‚Ä¶ tittle ‚Äď in the Greek, horn ‚Äď denoting a very slight projection at the corner of certain Hebrew letters ‚Ä¶‚ÄĚ
Many scholars claim that Christ and his apostles used the Septuagint, preferring it above the preserved Hebrew text found in the temple and synagogues. But if the Greek Septuagint was the Bible Jesus used, he would not have said,
"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." (Matthew 5:18)
Why would Jesus not have said this? Because the jot is a Hebrew letter, and the tittle is a small mark to distinguish between Hebrew letters. If Jesus used the Greek Septuagint, His scriptures would not have contained the jot and tittle. He obviously used the Hebrew scriptures!
In addition, Jesus only mentioned the scripture text in two ways, (1) "The Law and the Prophets" and (2) "The Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms":
"And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me." Luke 24:44
The Hebrews divide their Bible into three parts: the Law, the Prophets and the Writings. Jesus clearly referred to this. The Septuagint had no such division.