Great Sermon! Those cities were and example, not a prophecy for moore ok.
2 Peter 2:6
And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;
Where does it say in scripture that God will take out His wrath on sodimites or any specific group of people before the tribulation of the last days.
This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.
Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.
Could God send a tornado to OKC, sure. And if He did, there would be no doubt it was His doings.
But as Pastor Mike always says, show me in scripture where it says He would.
I love my Lord, and when psators blame Him for all the bad things in the world, I get upset.
For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.
Bad things happen on this earth to all, both saved and lost. Its a broken world, not the same after Adams sin. Tornado's thunderstorms, things like
What OKC is in "tornado ally" tornado's have been as common in that area as snow is to Alaska.
Those who say haarp caused this are as confused as saying this was Gods judgement on Moore. That area is no more, or less rightioues then any other city on earth. All deserve death. Scripture is clear when His judgement will come on nations. To say this was the result of a gay parade that happened the day before is saying if their was no parade then there would be no tornado's. Truth is, if it wasn't for mobile home parks, there wouldn't be tornado's. God created and set things in motion, I don't see in scripture where the sun, rain, weather to include the wind has to be told daily what to do. Will God use the wind, water and earth for judgement, yes. But scripture is also clear when He will do that. Correct me if Im wrong , but in the NT the only prophacy that has been fulfilled of a city or nation being destroyed for wickedness is Jerusalem and Israel. But the UN put it all back together in 1948. A gay parade is no differant then an abortion clinic or Jim Staley, sin is sin. Even in Festus Mo I bet their is sin, and judgement will come to your town when it comes to the rest of the earth, not before. Why do the wicked prosper? Same area had storms before, maybe they should build elsewhe
Great Sermon! A very good presentation
All who hear it should pass this on to everyone they know
(although most will not like it)
scripture is clear
many are bad and teach a perverted gospel
let no man deceive you with vain words:
for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly;
and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
Now I beseech you, brethren,
mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
Amazing part, scripture is also clear
how that Christ died for our sins
1 Corinthians 15
Great Sermon! Amen, a common salvation. Those who say that only applies to the jews and not the gentiles IE:Matthew do lie. But lets not forget those who say this only applies to the gentiles and not the jews, IE: rapure also lie.
As Paul said, And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, goes right alone with, And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. From the OT to the NT only one way to salvation, faith.
Great Sermon! Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first... As I write this the so called baptist chuuurrrch across the street has its children in the yard hunting "easter eggs". Sunrise service is the big thing around here. The falling away has increased to the point that what passes as chuuurrch is nothing more then the world following man. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. So sad, thank you
Great Sermon! Yes, exposing false teachers , protecting the sheep is a Pastors job.
Im not sure what is doing more harm, those who spread false teaching, or all the so called pastors (hirelings) who do not speak out against it. I do know scripture is pretty clear who will have blood on their hands. Thank You
Icon O'Clast wrote: You made no comment on the Scripture I quoted. By the way, I listened to the Paul Washer sermon you mentioned in another place and guess what - his ism is the same as my ism. Salvation is of God and from God, He is the author and finisher. He grants repentance, He gives you faith and it is His supernatural work - not your manmade decision. Your ism argument is a shallow red herring. We give the different viewpoints an ism just to differentiate them. You listed a whole bunch of isms that have nothing to do with each other. You are left with a futile, empty argument that carries no weight at all.
You listed a whole bunch of isms that have nothing to do with each other Maybe, someday, the truth you just spoke, God will show you why.
JD writes I think my recent conversation with MurrayA and DJC49 is very instructive of how far the reformed are willing to go to protect and preserve their theological system that has no basis in sound exegesis of Scripture or understanding of the ways of God Amen, Good start
You made no comment on the Scripture I quoted Sorry, and you worked so hard.
Icon O'Clast wrote: You made no comment on the Scripture I quoted I listened to the Paul Washer sermon you mentioned in another place and guess what - his ism is the same as my ism. Salvation is of God and from God, He is the author and finisher. He grants repentance He gives you faith and it is His supernatural work not your manmade decision. Your ism argument is a shallow red herring. You are left with a futile, empty argument that carries no weight at all
Thank You SA has turned off my IP address on my laptop, so it will happen on my PC after sending this
Please allow me to thank Peter J Say sorry? You mean you believe that father of all liars when he says he has the power and the authority? He has nothing more than that which Almighty God gives him Yes I agree with all you say, but like Job, satan was given, the right to do everythink but kill him. And he was given the kingdoms of the earth, what are his limitations, clearly listed in the Bible
Thank You In the great words of that man of god You are left with a futile, empty argument that carries no weight at all
Sorry Allen ps. God didn't write scripture in english pps. God didn't write it, it was by inspriation, look it up, name it, claim it
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.
Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession
let us hold fast our profession
And I don't get doctrine from music, of ANY type, I may agree with the songs intent, but that is due to Biblical Doctrine.
As with music, the same doctrine should be used in EVERY aspect of a christians life.
Icon O'Clast wrote: I am always amazed at how you guys get hung up on one text and go to town on it. John 3:16 is part of a whole conversation and begins with the word "For". It is organically connected to that which precedes it. Yet you geniuses forget all that and get hung up on the word Kosmos - to determine whether God wants to save His elect or whether He wants to save the whole world. Previously Jesus said (vs 3), "Unless one is born again he cannot SEE the kingdom of God", then (vs 5) he cannot ENTER. Later (vs 18) He says that he who does not believe "Is condemned already."
Can you numskulls not understand that
Arminianism is blasphemy!
Amen Arminianism is blasphemy
But then so are all ism's (except mine) Calvinism Catholic-ism Baptist -ism Protastant-ism Mormon-ism Reformation-ism (sorry, forgot) And the other 200 or so-ism's One Way
Christianity Jesus, those who follow him are called christians, for the Bible tells me so.
Can you numskulls not understand that NOT my words, but the thought does cross my mind. Forgive me
Allan wrote: While it is true that ID is not always Biblical Creationism, it still can be if that is what the person believes is behind the ID. The article doesn't state whivh version of ID this man believes, but regardless of that he should not have been denied a fair oppertunity to defend himself. This was nothing but a witch hunt from Day 1.
The best your god can do is try to get those who were clever enough to "make a decision for Jesus What a miserable form of Christianity you have been taught
What did you think of
Paul Washers sermon How to get saved, on SA
Im asking everyone to hear it and let me know there thoughts. Too many Gospels running around, don't you agree
Oh bye the way And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness, being forty days tempted of the devil. And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me and to whomsoever I will I give it
(SEE PETE, SATAN Says: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it (THEN SATAN SAYS) If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine
And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou
Intelligent design , is as one man put it, we believe somone created man, most likly a far advanced people from another Galaxy, do you really think, with all the solar systems, there is no other life out there.
Intelligent design is not Biblical.
the theory confirms that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause,(NOTE: DOES NOT SAY GOD) not a random, undirected force such as natural selection, which is part of the foundational faith of evolutionists.
faith of evolutionists also - best explained by an intelligent cause, tell me is this not the same logic as natural selection, both wrong. Tell me Why could God not create everything For even the big bang bang had to start with something, where did the something come from, nothing, I see. So intelligent designers, they came from where, ?, I see.
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Weapon of Mass-Instrũction wrote: Folks, whether the article is definite or indefinite does not change the fact that
the Bible should be taken literally.
Otherwise, we would have to be consistent and allegorize every noun preceded by "a" in the Bible. There are already set linguistic standards for what constitutes an allegory
to reject a literal interpretation of prophecy. God destroying 1/3 of the earth is not anymore ridiculous than 1/3 of Satan angels falling down from heaven. I mean we all will agree that God is going to destroy the whole world at one point, so the idea of Him destroying 1/3 of it should not pose a problem.
The idea of a holy God creating and lording over a sin-infested world for his own demented will when the Bible clearly states that Satan is the god of this world and that God is not the author of sin.
Discerning Believer wrote: Actually before jumping on the Ron Paul bandwagon, check out this quiz. He doesn't stand on major Christian issues as many would think. In fact, he's closer to Obama and Clinton on his positions. Select a Candidate Quiz
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Discerning Believer wrote: DJC, One thing you need to be careful of in discounting a literal 1000 year reign is in the language of Revelation. Figurative or symbolic language is usually prefaced with the words "like as" or "as of" which in the case of the 1000 years is not so. It is preface with "the" or "a" (Rev 20:2) And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him *a thousand years,* (Rev 20:3) And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till *the thousand years* should be fulfilled:. (Rev 20:4) ... and they lived and reigned with Christ *a thousand years.* (Rev 20:5) But the rest of the dead lived not again until *the thousand years were finished. (Rev 20:6)...and shall reign with him a thousand years. (Rev 20:7) And when *the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Hi DB How in the WORLD, did you see that? How in the World could anyone dispute DJC49 writes Dizzy-spin-sationalist view of the LITERAL 1000-year Millennial reign of Christ is absurd
Not sure who is disputing the Bible But the verses clearly say Rev 20:4and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand Years yep
Mike wrote: Great point Allan. What a fake this guy is. Another text would be II Thess chapter one Maybe his followers should ask him to raise a man from the dead with his spoken word, or see if when the local authorities ever come to take him away, they fall backward on the ground by a word from him also Oh, I wonder if this imposter can walk through walls, as Christ did after his resurrection
There will come one and do all those things and more.
Then I Daniel looked, and, behold there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders? And I heard the man clothed in linen which was upon the waters of the river when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be
for a time, times, and an half
And when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people all these things shall be finished
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect
Minnow wrote: "James Dobson, one of the nation's most prominent evangelical Christian leaders, backed Mike Huckabee's presidential bid" Oh well! In that case Huckabee is definitely destined for the White House. That right folks.
Jimmy knows he must endorse someone that claims to be christian, he knows Huck is about done, stick a fork in it. That leaves McCain, so Jimmy will endorse him, to keep the Dem's from winning, so will Pat, 700 reasons to send me money, Robertson and Bob Jones There is a man of God, although not perfect like most. I still feel Ron Paul would truly push his belief, not seperate from it as most, to be Pres.
MurrayA wrote: Reference: Jeremiah 16:19 What is interesting is v.21: "I will make them (lit. modi'am: cause them to know) My power and My might, and they shall know that My Name is the LORD." God is speaking about the Gentile nations: in contrast to the Israelite nation who have embraced the idols of the nations, the latter will discard them and embrace the God of Israel, the true and living God. Alternatively, it envisages the Jews in exile who discard their idols and learn the lesson of God's chastisement, and by that external means come to know the LORD in truth. Either way, it speaks of a Divine work ("My mighty power") in people such that they "know that His Name is the LORD".
Preach it Murray Why waste your "talents" Amen Do you think both ways or only one?