Icon O'Clast wrote:
You made no comment on the Scripture I quoted. By the way, I listened to the Paul Washer sermon you mentioned in another place and guess what - his ism is the same as my ism. Salvation is of God and from God, He is the author and finisher. He grants repentance, He gives you faith and it is His supernatural work - not your manmade decision. Your ism argument is a shallow red herring. We give the different viewpoints an ism just to differentiate them. You listed a whole bunch of isms that have nothing to do with each other. You are left with a futile, empty argument that carries no weight at all.

JD writes
I think my recent conversation with MurrayA and DJC49 is very instructive of how far the reformed are willing to go to protect and preserve their theological system that has no basis in sound exegesis of Scripture or understanding of the ways of God
Amen, Good start

Icon O'Clast wrote:
You made no comment on the Scripture I quoted
I listened to the Paul Washer sermon you mentioned in another place and guess what
- his ism is the same as my ism.
Salvation is of God and from God,
He is the author and finisher.
He grants repentance
He gives you faith and it is His supernatural work
not your manmade decision.
Your ism argument is a shallow red herring. You are left with a futile, empty argument that carries no weight at all

Please allow me to thank Peter J
Say sorry? You mean you believe that father of all liars when he says he has the power and the authority? He has nothing more than that which Almighty God gives him
Yes I agree with all you say, but like Job, satan was given, the right to do everythink but kill him. And he was given the kingdoms of the earth, what are his limitations, clearly listed in the Bible

Thank You
In the great words of that man of god
You are left with a futile, empty argument that carries no weight at all

For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.

Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession

let us hold fast our profession

And I don't get doctrine from music, of ANY type, I may agree with the songs intent, but that is due to Biblical Doctrine.

As with music, the same doctrine should be used in EVERY aspect of a christians life.

May want to hear
You are my King (Amazing love)
and
HOLY HOLY HOLY

Icon O'Clast wrote:
I am always amazed at how you guys get hung up on one text and go to town on it.
John 3:16
is part of a whole conversation and begins with the word "For". It is organically connected to that which precedes it. Yet you geniuses forget all that and get hung up on the word Kosmos - to determine whether God wants to save His elect or whether He wants to save the whole world. Previously Jesus said (vs 3), "Unless one is born again he cannot SEE the kingdom of God", then (vs 5) he cannot ENTER. Later (vs 18) He says that he who does not believe "Is condemned already."

Can you numskulls not understand that

Arminianism is blasphemy!

But then so are all ism's (except mine)
Calvinism
Catholic-ism
Baptist -ism
Protastant-ism
Mormon-ism
Reformation-ism (sorry, forgot)
And the other 200 or so-ism's
One Way

Christianity
Jesus, those who follow him are called
christians, for the Bible tells me so.

Division-ism

Allan wrote:
While it is true that ID is not always Biblical Creationism, it still can be if that is what the person believes is behind the ID.
The article doesn't state whivh version of ID this man believes, but regardless of that he should not have been denied a fair oppertunity to defend himself. This was nothing but a witch hunt from Day 1.

Creation is Creation not ID

ID is ID not creation

Why call it what you want?

Peter J wrote:
The God of my Bible does whatever

not even that monkey-on-a-leash Satan

The God of my Bible

The best your god can do is try to get those who were clever enough to "make a decision for Jesus
What a miserable form of Christianity you have been taught

What did you think of

Paul Washers sermon
How to get saved, on SA

Im asking everyone to hear it and let me know there thoughts.
Too many Gospels running around, don't you agree

Thanks

Oh bye the way
And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness, being forty days tempted of the devil. And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them:
for that is delivered unto me
and to whomsoever I will I give it

(SEE PETE, SATAN Says: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it
(THEN SATAN SAYS)
If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine

And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou

IS NOT THE SAME AS CREATION.

Don;t be decieved.

Intelligent design , is as one man put it, we believe somone created man, most likly a far advanced people from another Galaxy, do you really think, with all the solar systems, there is no other life out there.

Intelligent design is not Biblical.

the theory confirms that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause,(NOTE: DOES NOT SAY GOD) not a random, undirected force such as natural selection, which is part of the foundational faith of evolutionists.

faith of evolutionists also - best explained by an intelligent cause, tell me is this not the same logic as natural selection, both wrong. Tell me
Why could God not create everything
For even the big bang bang had to start with something, where did the something come from, nothing, I see. So intelligent designers, they came from where, ?, I see.

Gonzalez' appeal to ISU President Greg Geoffroy also was unsuccessful

Weapon of Mass-Instrũction wrote:
Folks, whether the article is definite or indefinite does not change the fact that

the Bible should be taken literally.

Otherwise, we would have to be consistent and allegorize every noun preceded by "a" in the Bible. There are already set linguistic standards for what constitutes an allegory

to reject a literal interpretation of prophecy. God destroying 1/3 of the earth is not anymore ridiculous than 1/3 of Satan angels falling down from heaven. I mean we all will agree that God is going to destroy the whole world at one point, so the idea of Him destroying 1/3 of it should not pose a problem.

The idea of a holy God creating and lording over a sin-infested world for his own demented will when the Bible clearly states that Satan is the god of this world and that God is not the author of sin.

Discerning Believer wrote:
Actually before jumping on the Ron Paul bandwagon, check out this quiz. He doesn't stand on major Christian issues as many would think. In fact, he's closer to Obama and Clinton on his positions.
Select a Candidate Quiz

The Holy Bible

Discerning Believer wrote:
DJC,
One thing you need to be careful of in discounting a literal 1000 year reign is in the language of Revelation. Figurative or symbolic language is usually prefaced with the words "like as" or "as of" which in the case of the 1000 years is not so. It is preface with "the" or "a"
(Rev 20:2) And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him *a thousand years,*
(Rev 20:3) And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till *the thousand years* should be fulfilled:.
(Rev 20:4) ... and they lived and reigned with Christ *a thousand years.*
(Rev 20:5) But the rest of the dead lived not again until *the thousand years were finished.
(Rev 20:6)...and shall reign with him a thousand years.
(Rev 20:7) And when *the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

Mike wrote:
Great point Allan. What a fake this guy is. Another text would be II Thess chapter one
Maybe his followers should ask him to raise a man from the dead with his spoken word, or see if when the local authorities ever come to take him away, they fall backward on the ground by a word from him also
Oh, I wonder if this imposter can walk through walls, as Christ did after his resurrection

Then I Daniel looked, and, behold there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river,
How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?
And I heard the man clothed in linen which was upon the waters of the river when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be

for a time, times, and an half

And when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people all these things shall be finished

Minnow wrote:
"James Dobson, one of the nation's most prominent evangelical Christian leaders, backed Mike Huckabee's presidential bid"
Oh well!
In that case Huckabee is definitely destined for the White House.
That right folks.

MurrayA wrote:
Reference: Jeremiah 16:19
What is interesting is v.21: "I will make them (lit. modi'am: cause them to know) My power and My might, and they shall know that My Name is the LORD."
God is speaking about the Gentile nations: in contrast to the Israelite nation who have embraced the idols of the nations, the latter will discard them and embrace the God of Israel, the true and living God.
Alternatively, it envisages the Jews in exile who discard their idols and learn the lesson of God's chastisement, and by that external means come to know the LORD in truth.
Either way, it speaks of a Divine work ("My mighty power") in people such that they "know that His Name is the LORD".