I just read the US Justice Dept is going to investigate a MN dentist that illegally killed a lion in Zimbabwe. Mind you, Zimbabwe will allow killing lions if you have a permit, but it seems the dentist killed a famous lion without his safari operator getting the correct permit. (translation, the operator pocketed the huge fee and didn't cut the govt officials in)
For a lion they will do more for American children, as abortionists violate the rules too. And protestors who often risk everything are called murderers when they hound late term abortionists who violate the law? And this doesn't even touch the legal murders the US allows because SCOTUS says its a 'right.'
In the Mosaic law, everyone in the land was subject to the land. All could suffer because of sin in the land. While our law might contain parts of the Mosaic Law, this is definitely missing...and its outrageous that the US dept of Justice might appease Zimbabwe using the same argument for an animal but not Christians for children in their own land...
Last night I plopped on the couch and watched Jesuit Father Pacwas program on ETWN. Father Pacwa is a great Christian man despite the errors of the RCC. His guest last night was an RCC historian who gave a factual but one sided account justifying the RCC participation in the Crusades. During the Q&A portion, I was disappointed the RCC minions didn't question the so called scholar, but one person did ask if such an undertaking is possible again, perhaps to counter the Islamic threat in the Mideast. His answer was a confident and powerful no as the social, religious, political institutions and military structures of our day makes that impossible...to which I agree
Its mere silliness to think a contemporary Pope is the Antichrist, its embarrassing to real Christians to listen to the faux Kristian fools prophesy such a thing
I really don't like the 'Women Betrayed' title for the movement. Its like women were duped only recently, and some women might get the idea just for selling body parts and they missed their cut in horrific trade
Jim Lincoln wrote: Ah, the joys of Google speech recognition SteveR! "ante" should be "anti" Oh, and I should point out Take America back from tyrannical English Kings! Giving God's Word Back to the People--King James's Authorized Replacement. It's no doubt obvious to these folks you're anti-American if your using the KJV! But Dorcas, does Ovaldal dislike the Geneva Bible the first Study Bible, e.g., John 1:1 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV). Actually the main Bible has modern English spelling, the various marginal notes not so much so. Anyway, the John MacArthur and Ryrie Study Bibles get high praise, since both men especially John, have the correct theology.
But Jim If everybody read the Geneva Bible, we would eliminate the Arminian/Calvinist dispute. Like your namesake, the King wanted a true translation because the Geneva Bible was very biased towards Calvinists
Dorcas wrote: I had not heard of Bruce Metzger, so asked my husband...his response..."that heretic" I told him that was pretty much the general consensus of the folks on the board...minus a couple of posters.
I wouldn't classify Bruce as a simple heretic rather...
I would say Metzgers sacrilegious practices allowed heretics of all stripes to rally behind his higher criticisms. The genius of his desecration of Scripture was that he never embraced one heresy, rather offered a paradigm, a theological ecosystem, for heretics to thrive .
and he worked hard at it..it wasn't unusual for him to so send out dozens of his books for free or visit congregations that began to question his ideas. Circa 1990 I had the elders of a large PCUSA congregation question their Pastor about the NIV, but Bruce rode in on his high horse and convinced everyone he was on the up and up...we all know where the PCUSA is today
Jim Lincoln wrote: but, observer, you support the ante Christian Erasmus, much worse than Bruce Metzger. do I like all of what Bruce Metzger did-- of course not. as I pointed out he did an excellent article on the
Ante an Erasmus, Raise a Metzger, then fold a Westcott and Hort
The RCC connection is liable to put Observer back in the funny farm
Observer wrote: Really Penny?!! Sad to see you on this gravy train! Re: Bruce Metzger: BRUCE METZGER believed Moses did not write the Pentateuch, Deuteronomy was not written until 700 years before Christ, the Old Testament is a mixture of ‚Äúmyth, legend, and history,‚ÄĚ the record of the worldwide flood of Noah‚Äôs day is exaggerated,
Meztger is not just a charlatan, but that sorcerer beguiled thousands of pastors to prefer his NIV harlotry over the AV. Even when one presents the evidence of his unbelief, the na√Įve still follow that hireling. Stunning
btw- Here on SA, Ive heard very conservative Pastors plant the doubt that Moses didnt write the last chapters of Deuteronomy
s c wrote: Good for HP for discouraging women from dressing like hookers. A few will probably leave as a result but they probably won't be missed and productivity will probably improve. It is a very poor business choice to let women dress immodestly. Walking into a business and being greeted by a receptionist who looks like she belongs in a night club doesn't give a patron much confidence in the business.
Because of travel Ive probably visited more SA churches than anyone on this MB, and I can say our Protestants dress worse to Church than to work
Apostolic & Lutherans Church members are somewhat better
B. McCausland wrote: 1. Friend, knowledge and understanding shared in a forum as this serves the edification of any about. The setting should never be used as a means for personal attack, animosity or contempt. The quote provided was shared in the spirit of the first statement above. Should this cause boredoom, such unpleasant reality ought to be faced in patience and forbearance with the good of others in mind. My apologies for this. 2. One finds by experience that the preaching of those not using the AV, generally speaking, reflects the personal philosophy and values they sustain about the Word, versions, etc. Because of this, the teaching presented becomes often less reliable, unless there is original word study in place, and when caution is given, disregard is the norm. The reality of Prov 9:8-9 becomes evident. Kind regards
Relax, nothing personal.
Our goal here at Jesuit Troll HQ is to fire up the discussion on unimportant issues like using the correct Scripture, and thereby giving Protestants less time for important considerations like RCC grooming of Justin Beiber as the AntiChrist and how many milliliters of water are needed for an authentic baptism
John Yurich USA wrote: It certainly is a possibility that God has let bird flu into the United States to produce a shortage of eggs as a judgment upon the United States for supporting abortion, homosexuality, artificial birth control and every other perversion under the sun.
I went to the store yesterday, there are plenty of eggs. An extra nickel an egg isnt a judgement on America
B. McCausland wrote: Quote from 'The Validity of the Received Text' by Debra E. Anderson " ‚Ä¶ the Received Text since the middle 17th century is ‚Ä¶ a group of printed texts ‚Ä¶ beginning in 1516 ‚Ä¶. these texts are nearly consistent, not only with one another, but also with the vast majority of manuscripts of the Greek New Testament ‚Ä¶ available to scholars of the Reformation Those who advocate ‚Ä¶ the Critical Greek Text also speak in terms of there being one single text. However, there have been twenty-seven editions of the Nestle text, and five (including the 3rd edition corrected) of the United Bible Societies‚Äô text. That does not include the texts of Tischendorf, Hort and Westcott in the 19th century. Each of these texts is also built on only a handful of manuscripts, ‚Ä¶ which do not represent the majority of available ‚Ä¶ ‚Ä¶ the production of the Textus Receptus ‚Ä¶ came (with) a resurgence in the desire to know the God presented in that New Testament. This cannot be said of the period which saw the presumed abandonment of the Textus Receptus and the production of the Critical Greek Text."
(Yawn) You are preaching to the choir
But if you want to make yourself useful, a majority of SermonAudio contributors don't use the AV...email them
John UK wrote: I just downloaded and listened to this particular one, Sister B, and found it most helpful. I don't see how anyone could disagree with it, so if Sister Penny would care to have a listen, she might find her thinking somewhat changed on the issue. Hopefully I will find time to listen to more of the series, so thanks for posting it up. Good to see Brother and Saint Wayne from Northumberland posting on this issue also.
Another day of this thread? This is getting boring Jim...and Im in the AV camp and watching you lose is getting dull
Time for you to claim the KJV is a Catholic plant by Desiderius Erasmus because he never left the RCC and also adored Thomas More
Cha wrote: there is a difference between trusting God for protection, and using resources wisely to prevent or stop a possible tragedy. Just because we trust in God as our protector doesn't mean we go driving around with our airbag turned off and our seatbelt undone
Deterrence can play a big factor
Our church had a threat against our elementary classes, so a group of members stood guard everyday until it passed. One child asked me if it was dangerous for them, I replied no. I said we were there to protect the intruder, can you imagine what Bonnie(their 70 yr old teacher) would do if someone got close enough to harm you?
Jim Lincoln wrote: Actually, there wouldn't be much difference in living in Romish Spain or the Ottoman Empire. This is how Vlad the Impaler (Dracula), He sure knew how to handle the Turks. One has to remember that Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson Jr., are just as Christian and almost as political as Franky. So, people who know, --Believer and Politics.
--Transylvania, like many Eastern European Kingdoms of that era, were elected monarchies. Those from Royal Families could run in an election. Vlad the Impaler was a campaign slogan, he promised to impale invaders. Another famous Muslim fighter from the Region was Steven the Charming
Jim Lincoln wrote: Because He never promised to have it kept exactly as He had it written. If it were around it would be in Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek -- not English. Something almost always gets lost in the translation -- with the KJV quite a lot Again I would suggest you read Dr. Combs,
Psalms 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Psalms 12:7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.
Jim Lincoln wrote: Observer, you should these comments that David Robert Palmer, apparently a Bible Translator (If he is good or bad, I can't say, but he obviously knows a lot about the Bible. In many ways he's a mystery man since I can't an details on his theology) But you should read his response to Dan, I believe, who was told while putting out the Word of God, that all translations except the KJV are works of Satan. Now, as Mr. Palmer pointed out KJVO types should be told like Peter by Christ, "Get behind Me, Satan!" Because they advocate a Satanic position, anyway, for people who want to be edified, King James Onlyism and King James Onlyism, Part 2 Oh, Spurgeon thought the KJV should be corrected where it needed it -- and it needs it!
Jim Im a simple fallen creature, yet I can get a book published EXACTLY as I want it. So, how come I can, but your god cant?
Frank wrote: When I read about Islam versus RC, I simply think of competing cults. I have often said that the RCC was satan‚Äôs church and I mean that because it is the closest counterfeit and is able to confuse the most who are in some manner seeking Christ. They are both the same in the respect that they have both redefined our Lord and Savior and the true Christ won‚Äôt be found among them. As Chris noted, their goals are to lead people down the broad path. The RCC is of course the most ecumenical of the two and most have seen pope John Paul II kissing the Koran. Ecumenicalism is a far greater threat to the true faith than Islam is. The strongest spiritual battle is for the souls of men, not their lives. So a Muslim cuts the heads off of 100 people and the RCC leads 1,000 astray. That is the way I look at it.
(yawn) Same insecurity different century
Reformation era Catholics clamed the Protestant cult was an Islamic financed scheme, that recognition gained traction when Protestants allied w/Turks against the Hapsburgs
The phrase Liever Turks dan Paaps ("Rather a Turk than a Papist"), was the Protestant slogan of the Dutch in their rebellion against Catholic Spain