just u wait wrote: The real shock will come when they discover the 2000 year old wiring for the cities electrical supply. As SteveR will tell you that really was fitted by the Seleucid empire.
We really cant trust archeologists today. Not only have they covered up evidence of Sammy Davis Jrs rightful position as High Priest in the line of Aaron, but Mel Brooks Blazing Saddles was a ripoff of an Amalakite sitcom that ran opposite of Hebrew Monday Night Chariot races hosted by Howard Cosellberg
Right after the Maccabean Revolt, Jonathon thought it would be a great idea to spend his resources building a new aquaduct. It wasnt because the Seleucid empire wasnt proficient in such works, but he wanted European settlers to have a great excuse to remove Palestinians from Umm Tuba 2000+ yrs later
Jim Lincoln wrote: You may or may not get to read that Wall St. Journal article, I would say attempt it first with you favorite mobile device. It just rejected my computer. Oh, by the way, Stever, it's interesting that the state of Illinois has decided to cut out of it's pension funds any company that tries to boycott Israel!
Jim You might put an exclamation point for that Ill law, but even Christians that adore Israel dont want government bureaucracy monitoring who they do and dont do business with. Its a waste of man hours, taxpayer funds, and is a precedent to passing laws punishing business for refusing to do business for purposes they reject...like baking cakes for gay weddings
edited4space "Following the outbreak of World War I, Zionism was first discussed at a British Cabinet level on 9 November 1914, four days after Britain's declaration of war on the Ottoman Empire. .. .Lloyd George assured him that "he was very keen to see a Jewish state established in Palestine."...Zionist aspirations for the establishment in Palestine of a Jewish state, and of the importance of its geographical position to the British Empire. Samuel's memoirs state: "I mentioned that two things would be essential‚ÄĒthat the state should be neutralized, since it could not be large enough to defend itself, and that the free access of Christian pilgrims should be guaranteed...a great advantage if the remainder of Syria were annexed by France, as it would be far better for the state to have a European power as neighbour than the Turk"
1 Kings 9:15 And this is the reason of the levy which king Solomon raised; for to build the house of the LORD, and his own house, and Millo, and the wall of Jerusalem, and Hazor, and Megiddo, and Gezer.
1 Kings 9:16 For Pharaoh king of Egypt had gone up, and taken Gezer, and burnt it with fire, and slain the Canaanites that dwelt in the city, and given it for a present unto his daughter, Solomon's wife.
1 Kings 9:17 And Solomon built Gezer, and Bethhoron the nether,
1 Kings 9:18 And Baalath, and Tadmor in the wilderness, in the land,
H. M. Ostell wrote: Now come on Steve not even you believe that Christ was referring to a great plank of wood on the backs of Christ's followers. NOR even a miniature metal copy of the cross. What Christ is referring to is having a heart for Christ. To deny ourselves and give our all to God and His Son. "We must accustom ourselves to all instances of self-denial and patience, v. 23. This is the best preparative for martyrdom.
Excellent point My exhortation was to not forget the metaphor.
On a personal position, the Greek 'cross' would be better understood as a crossbeam, not an entire cross. Our cross unites creation(tree) with the cross(beam). I will add, I am offended that RCC orders have polluted the cross to include 'sun crosses' as representations of a cross. A Maltese cross is pure pagan idolatry. Unfortunately, Protestants have been all to eager to join in the false worship
Chris Perver wrote: I thought prayer was banned in schools in America
In the US, prayer is a protected form of free speech even in public schools. Prayer can not be part of a the organized schedule though.
For Catholic institutions, limitations would be based on how much if any federal funding they receive. A likely lawsuit might be some atheists objecting to Federaly back student loans for students of religious institutions that have prayer as part of the school schedule
and for the unholy trinity Lets not confuse crosses with crucifixes out of silly spite, Christians are commanded to take up their crosses daily
Luke 9:23 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
carl h wrote: Any semons on loss of faith? Im really struggling on believing that there is a merciful God.
Sounds like you are losing faith in doing Church Merikan style, and desring to move towards the truth. May I suggest never returning to this board until you have read the Scriptures cover to cover at least 3 times? without commentary.
In the time you spend here, you can read 3 chapters a day, even a busy person can read the Bible in 1 year. It wont make great sense at first, but after awhile it will. Perhaps this tribulation is to draw you nearer to truth
Mike wrote: You give too much credit to the civil magistrates. First of all, there would be no national sin without personal sin. Evidence? How much sin would a land be guilty of if no one was there? Further, when the people here voice there opposition to the evils with a vote, a judge illegally turns it over. That is his sin, not the nation's. Why does his lonely voice condemn a nation which disagrees? Did not God say he would have spared Sodom if he could find a few righteous there?
My Pastor recently had an adult Sunday School series on understanding the perceptions by Hebrews of Corporate(national) Salvation, and the removal of the veil for Individual Salvation in the NT. It was really good series, especially when our class was shown how the two are reconciled.
Its really neat when even those who think class is for socializing, quiet down and listen
If you read the story, you will find that the complaint was filed by a successful ambulance chaser on behalf of muslims. Banzhaf is in the process of convincing muslims they are victims of Catholic idolatry. Banzhaf has a long history of using lawsuits to promote his sociopolitical agenda, especially when the defendant has a pool of assets to go after. Really he is a lawyer with a knack of making money. If he contacts the anti catholic posters that haunt SA, he could make this a class action suit and really clean up. Nobody has suffered more due to imaginary RCC persecution than our reprobates here.
pennny wrote: what do you do when its the elders hanging onto their tax status and want to keep the churches in the traditions they've become comfortable with, even if it leads right to apostasy, so they convince the youth to follow them, who know no better? meanwhile working age family men report a new world order that is weakening the church already and end up leaving the churches? then the elders report that the younger generations are apostate because they won't join them on Sunday? what do we do with a generation who just wants to sit and wait it out and go out for brunch?
Its not just the elders, as one year I thought we had enough to ask the congregation for a vote. The trustees quickly discouraged anyone from attempting a move on the tax free status.
I wonder how many people reading this know who the Trustees of their own churches are?
Sin in the Camp wrote: A.D. series pulled, NBC exec resigns NASHVILLE (BP) -- NBC has pulled the hit series "A.D. The Bible Continues" in response to media reports alleging its heroes were sinners. Upon examination NBC found Adam & Eve bring death on us all by direct disobedience to God's word Gen 3 Noah, gen 9:21 got drunk Lot lay with his daughters in a drunken stupor Gen 19:26 Abraham lied and endangered Sarah through cowardice. And has a child abuse allegation involving offering Isaac on Mt Moriah. Gen 22! Moses, ex 2:11-15 killed a man The Judges 19 horror is way past network standards. David&Bathsheba...adultery by the author of the Psalms? &also Dave had the husband killed 2 Samuel:11
Even SA moderators remove posts with Biblical Passages that readers of this website find offensive, I should know as I often have had those posts removed. And I never came close to posting the events of the Levites concubine from Bethlehemjudah.
I travel for business, and often would stop in at one PCUSA Wed night Bible study because it was convenient. It was a good group with an retired Pastor, a seminary grad, son of a Pastor and the usual group of those that like these studies for socializing. My last visit, I brought up this issue and asked how they would respond. I was met with silence and a few dirty looks from the liberal women, then the Church Pastor DEFENDED the apostasy. Further, he said the PCUSA will vote to specifically affirm gay marriage, rather than the vague wording they have now
Its stunning to watch the company man just trumpet what he is told. The synod could tell him the sky was pink, and he would support it for his job
from the article 'Franklin Graham, the president and CEO of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, explains what is happening to the PCUSA with one word: apostasy. ...Graham made it loud and clear that the PCUSA's decision to part from God's Word was nothing less than an all-out rejection of His Word and an embrace of society's accepted sinful behavior.
2 Kings 22:13 Go ye, enquire of the LORD for me, and for the people, and for all Judah, concerning the words of this book that is found: for great is the wrath of the LORD that is kindled against us, because our fathers have not hearkened unto the words of this book, to do according unto all that which is written concerning us.
2 Kings 22:14 So Hilkiah the priest, and Ahikam, and Achbor, and Shaphan, and Asahiah, went unto Huldah the prophetess, the wife of Shallum the son of Tikvah, the son of Harhas, keeper of the wardrobe; (now she dwelt in Jerusalem in the college and they communed with her.
2 Kings 22:15 And she said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Tell the man that sent you to me,
2 Kings 22:16 Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will bring evil upon this place, and upon the inhabitants thereof, even all the words of the book which the king of Judah hath read:
edit: background- Everyone had forgotten the books of Moses, and Josiah the young King found the book of the law and read it. NOBODY knew what to, and the priests consulted Huldah for guidance
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