Geff wrote: Actually, America doesn't have the highest
That's some really great excuses for the huge gun crime massacre rate which you justify in the US. I am sure we will be able to discuss them all over again at next months American school massacre???
In the mean time, here is how other nations have cut the gun crime rate and massacre sequence. Quote; Other countries all over the world play the same video games and have the same mental health problems as the United States, but manage to avoid a sky-high gun murder rate and frequent public shooting massacres.
The differences are due, in part, to the way that the different countries regulate gun ownership.
Here's how several other prosperous nations deal with the issue:" http://www.businessinsider.com/canada-australia-japan-britain-gun-control-2013-1?IR=T
ps: I still believe that America should put its school children before gun sales. But convincing America is the problem which Sandy Hook and Roseburg have.
should change moniker wrote: solutions should change moniker to clueless.
And considering America's new found modern fame as the school kids massacre capital of the world what should we call America?
Some stats for those who don't really seem to care about the slaughter happening all around them......
"994 mass shootings in 1,004 days: this is what America's gun crisis looks like
The Oregon school shooting is evidence that the US response to gun violence â€˜has become routineâ€™, Barack Obama says. The data compiled by the crowd-sourced site Mass Shooting Tracker reveals an even more shocking human toll: there is a mass shooting â€“ defined as four or more people shot in one incident â€“ nearly every day" http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/oct/02/mass-shootings-america-gun-violence
Question; Is America adult enough to do something about the regular slaughter of children they accept as the norm so that they can play with guns?
ps: Providing everybody with an assault rifle etc is neither Biblical nor Christian. It is a fallen world and therefore a fallen nation which stands by and does nothing about this constant slaughter.
Google user wrote: Oh? -google- 147 killed ...... Muslim Jihadists ....
If you find it necessary to compare and consider America with the primitive third world muslim nations then .....???
I had thought that you were a nation more modern, educated and even caring than that.
Do y'all care about the protection of school kids???
A constitutional right to murder and slaughter is a "law?" too far. Get rid of it.
Some facts. = Restricting the millions of guns and rifles in your society can only have a good effect, especially for school kids. = Maintaining the availability of guns and rifles places a mind set on the American psyche of "right to kill" rather than right to play cowboys at the weekend. = Blaming other reasons eg mental health is mitigating slaughter and massacre not providing "good?" reason for arming everybody. = Civilisation proves with regular monotony today that availability to large numbers of people of assault rifles and machine guns is recipe for disaster. = That disaster is exemplified in the massacre of school children. = You really really need to think of and protect the Sandy Hooks and the Roseburgs of YOUR community rather than legalise the potential to kill maim and murder.
The "Right to bear arms" has claimed another NINE lives.
Another attack on America's kids.
Mass school slaughter is fast becoming a US tradition.
This is not about gun control - It is about stopping the slaughter of innocent people and children.
America better wake up to reality and stop this killing spree. You are the ONLY country in the world who is regularly murdering school children and other groups with impunity. American society is responsible.
Nine more people die because of the "Right to bear arms."
The proliferation of guns can only have one outcome that is more use by people to kill with the gun.
In response to the post below ~ The Bible does not in any way support the concept that a nation should arm every single individual for protection. That is lynch mob justice and has nothing whatsoever to do with Christian justice or Christian thinking.
Watch And Pray wrote: Rather, we simply see the wisdom and prudence of having such things in order to be good stewards in protecting our belongings and our families.
The idea that the Bible supports the concept that every tom, dick and harry should be armed to the teeth with his assault rifle by his side is so far from reality that it is completely inane.
To suggest that everybody should wake up in the morning and strap on his/her assault rifle before going out into the community is the same thinking as lynch mob justice.
Christianity for centuries has sought to build a decent safe society to live in for all especially for our children. Therefore those who seek to encourage people to arm themselves on our streets are unchristian and pure evil.
If you cannot trust in God to provide you with life for one day in the community HE has placed you in - Then you cannot trust God whatsoever.
For example "The right to bear arms" for sinners can only result in one consequence the right to kill.
Which is one of the reasons we see such a huge killing retail service as over 51, thousand gun shops prepared to sell even military weapons like assault rifles to many eager customers.
Quote; "â€¢There are almost as many gun dealers in America as gas stations. There are a total of 129,817 gun dealers in the country, which include retail stores (51,438), "collectors" (61,562), pawn shops (7,356), and importers and manufacturers. Meanwhile, there are 143,849 gas stations. â€¢ There are more than twice as many gun stores in America as McDonalds restaurants. There are only 14,098 McDonalds.
American gun companies made 5.5 million new guns in 2010 and 95% of them were sold to Americans."
Stevenr wrote: And sorry, I'm on an iPhone. I can't go to links like you posted, so no clue what you are saying there.
From the link;
"In previous press conferences, the Connecticut State Police clearly identified all of the weapons seized from the crime scene at Sandy Hook Elementary School.
To eliminate any confusion or misinformation, we will again describe and identify the weapons seized at the school crime scene.
Seized inside the school:
#1. Bushmaster .223 caliber-- model XM15-E2S rifle with high capacity 30 round magazine
#2. Glock 10 mm handgun
#3. Sig-Sauer P226 9mm handgun
Seized from suspectâ€™s car in parking lot:
#4. Izhmash Canta-12 12 gauge Shotgun (seized from car in parking lot)
The shooter used the Bushmaster .223 to murder 20 children and six adults inside the school; he used a handgun to take his own life inside the school. No other weapons were used in this crime. This case remains under investigation.
Jim Lincoln wrote: a] I always considered the United States something of a new Roman Empire something I'm really not that ashamed of, since it gives us the gumption to clean up other people's messes, e.g, World War 1 and 2.
b] John UK & others many of us Calvinistic people
a] Yes. Y'all did eventually join the war didn't you.
b] "Calvinistic" ??? Aaww ain't that close to the real McCoy???
Now all we gotta deal with is that Arminian Universalism of yours!!
Swordsman wrote: Notice that Jesus plainly and emphatically told Simon Peter and the others to arm themselves.
Trying to use this statement of Jesus about the disciples and swords is plainly ridiculous. At worst it is a lie at best it is inaccurate interpretation.
Christ advising them to carry a couple of swords between them must be related to the times they lived in and the dangers which they could meet on the roads with bandits and criminals. There was no justice and police back then.
To then use this statement by Christ to ARM an entire nation with assault rifles and other modern military style weapons is ludicrous.
The "Right to bear arms" has become the right to kill people - In other words it is lynch mob style justice which is NO justice.
Jesus was not suggesting for a moment that modern America - or any nation - should arm itself with the incredible selection of modern weaponry available in the 53thousand arsenal shops across America.
Jesus definitely wasn't even addressing the reprobates, which are the majority of people in all nations, that they should be allowed to amass/promote lynch mob justice by so called "Right to bear arms" - (Arm yourself and be prepared to kill at the drop of a hat) - in the laws of the land.