Mike wrote:
Fatalism on display. Preachers, lay down your Bibles, nothing you say affects anything in any real sense. With or without you, all is inevitable. Que Sera Sera, whatever will be, will be.

What man does whether preacher or bin man can only be effective if God empowers him.

Give all the glory to God.

John UK wrote:
Perhaps you were unaware that God's elect yet unsaved can become heroin addicts. And God's elect yet unsaved can suffer needlessly because of where they go and who they have truck with

It doesn't matter if you are born into a fallen world if you are elect then God holds you in His mighty protective arms. Halleluia.

Thus being in a fallen world - or going to the fallen worlds schools and churches doesn't change the inevitable event of elect salvation. Amen.

We are all sinners and begin as fallen in a fallen world - Then God saves!!
It is not within the ability or faculty of man the sinner to change from worldly to saved.
ONLY God does that for the elect.

Those for whom God does not change direction; - Are bound for hell and have been on that journey all their lives. School or church or parent or preacher cannot avert that process.

Jim Lincoln wrote:
Perhaps life on earth, I learn a lot in all my advanced education, none of which has be useful in the job market. I should have went to a Vocational School and perhaps college and then would have had a much better time with it. (Christians don't send you children to universities

So going to school does what to the Christian? Does it change God's mind about who gets elected???
If a 'real' Christian goes to school and they teach Darwins theory - Does God Deselect them and send them to hell???

And if you actually build a 'Christian' school where all the teachers go to church, and even pray, And all the kids who go there are from Christian families - Will God elect the kids on that basis???

We live in a fallen world Jim, and fallen kids go to fallen schools and fallen politicians and fallen bureaucrats run this fallen society.

BUT BUT BUT
That does not defeat God's purpose for church or elect.

Honest Jim. Thats the truth.