It's called the principle of sowing and reaping. I think it's interesting that football players and fans are so concerned about the prospect of their teams being objectified in the showers and dressing rooms by sodomites when they are party to the very organization that does that and has done that for a very long time with women. Too bad that those who are so taken aback by the homosexuals haven't had the same disdain/concern for their own lasciviousness and immorality. Whose the woman beating/drunkard nfl player of the month this time around?
"No",penned. How did you draw that conclusion from what I stated? If,"penned" really is "penned". Here's an idea. Maybe sodomites could change with the cheerleaders. There's not much left that the sodomite would see that they haven't already shown. They are exhibitionists so they wouldn't mind another set of eyes on them. A sodomite wouldn't be lusting after them and maybe they could swap fashion tips.
Lomo wrote: "I can figure out things just by quick improvization when people doing the same thing for years could not figure something out that I did within 5 minutes of examination." Wisdom is greater than knowledge and humility is an underrated virtue. Any talent or gift that we have comes from God and some talents are overrated in this world. The only thing that makes a difference for the better in this world is that which is motivated and used for the Lord. The indigent person begging for food doesn't really care about the whiz kid or celebrity of the moment.
Thomas wrote: "No. They should be put back in the closet." ...along with the fornicators, adulterers, thieves, liars, immodest, haters, arrogant, which would probably include a vast majority of the football team etc. ?? At least, the homosexuals are not covert. I would be more concerned about the ones who are not open about it. Further,the other unsaved football players should be glad that their sins aren't sewn onto their football jerseys next to their number in which they take so much pride.
I can't help but wonder how the Grahams can speak out of both sides of their mouths. Isn't their sidekick, the "pope", an ardent believer that "The Church regards with esteem also the Muslims. They adore the one God, living and subsisting in himself; merciful and all-powerful, the Creator of heaven and earth, who has spoken to men;" as quoted on the catholic website?
obs,you took my statement out of context when you suggested to Unprofitable that I was stating that he did not have the Holy Spirit. Also, whether you wish me to be a woman or not, you might want to keep in mind that a Christian is to be no respecter of persons.If you are going to try to pick on people who you think are female and posting advice, then you need to pick on the other females who do the same..those who are,clearly, women. It almost looks as if you are trying to be an instigator. Of course,God knows your heart and motive.
Obs, why would you choose to appoint a gender to me for your convenience?...given that you do not know. It's none of your business. UPS, I think that Christians too often take Corinthians 6:12 out of context in assuming that everything is legal. This would fly in the face of Scripture. Obviously, recreational drugs or pornography, fornication and the like cannot be included. When put into context, Paul is saying, essentially, that we have free will and are at liberty to choose to sin. He was not advocating that all things are indeed "lawful".
obs,I would prefer that you did not assign a gender to me or to assume what it is. I,certainly, don't know you and and I know that I have not shared it with anyone. Unprofitable, shut ins also have access to the radio and to the Bible. The internet may have more garbage on it, that's a reach, but one can still use the internet without any uninvited material. While it's true that an instrument in itself is not evil, I think that one would be hard pressed to watch it without having their senses violated. I know that even "christian" stations imitate the world in that regard. If you can watch it without that being the case, I would suggest to you that perhaps you could share how one may do that. It is awfully convenient that even though Christians may intend to watch a decent program that, for the most part, they do know that they will see things which they ought not to. I suppose if a Christian sees things which they were not purposefully setting out to, it's okay? That's like going to the beach and seeing naked people and then not having to feel guilty because that's not why you went there. I think that common sense should factor into the equation. Of course, only the Holy Spirit can speak to the issues.That,however, only works when one listens.
My "real loving words" as you sarcastically put it are actually a proper Scriptural response: "Blessed are you when men revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account." This is what you and your cronies, Steve,etc. are guilty of when you falsely accuse and state: "By now you should be wondering what holy writ you have broken, what vehement prohibition you transgressed, what taboo has led to these responses. I would suggest its the effeminate rage of the demonic spirits that possess them has been kindled. The most possessed must have been shaken to leave the UK location up, to add insomnia or duplicitousness to their list of curses." ...so dramatic!!You are the ones guilty of hate. There was nothing hateful about my response. When those who falsely accuse you are not Christ-like, one may rejoice. No one cares when a liar thinks little of them. I will pray for you though.
Rodney, I wasn't suggesting that anyone get cleaned up before coming to Christ. I know that that is impossible.The suggestion of setting boundaries wasn't with the intent to convert the wife.Surely, you can see the necessity for having boundaries and for separating oneself from the questionable activity. Not doing so will result in oppression. Obs,again, the Bible says that hate is tantamount to murder.
I appreciate your account, Dorcas. And I agree with you. No one can change apart from the work of the Holy Spirit. I think that your decision to not partake or watch with your husband was very wise. The boundaries that I suggested began with the husband separating himself from those activities. I think that it is a crucial/necessary step and will be very beneficial in countering the demonic oppression as well. I realize that it is necessary for the husband to be gentle but also firm. If alcohol and such are part of the equation, I think that it would be best not to enable the activity. I really thank you for your sweet and candid spirit in this.Your advice is very sound. GS, your comments,likewise, are appreciated. I wasn't suggesting that the husband be mean-spirited or unkind in the process. Obs, hope that your face doesn't freeze like that.And I have no disdain for the "good folk" on here or you,either. Hate is tantamount to murder.
...sorry I didn't to get to you sooner. There is life beyond this. And I was a bit distracted by all of the fan mail. Yours to each other, not mine. Some of you more "christian-like" posters are in dire need of repentance but I'll rejoice when those who are not like Christ make such scathing accusations. You're funny...glad that your not my final Judge or Jury. So, since you are all so "curious" and suddenly "care" to hear an answer even though none of you have made an attempt to answer mine: If you had read my first posts to the fellow having difficulty in an unyoked marriage in another thread, you would know that I totally encouraged him to stay in the marriage and to not walk by sight but by faith regardless of the final outcome. The setting of boundaries which you seem to think unthinkable do not run counter to the bible. First of all, the husband should set them for himself and not partake of any of the questionable activities. He should also cut the cable and dump the dish especially if he pays for them. If there is alcohol involved, get rid of it...and so on. He can still be a light and be gentle in his actions. If you wouldn't invite what you see on the tv into your house via the front door, you shouldn't invite it via your tv either.
"Steve", from your very gracious response, I'm guessing that you are unable to answer my questions? ...must be that conviction thing. People are most irritated by those things which convict them. By the way, patience is a fruit of the Spirit. Perhaps you are lacking.
One will invite demonic oppression in if they open the door to it or if they are neutral/silent in response to it. There are spirits that can come in through negative, demonic elements that is why there is not to be so much as a hint of that which is coarse associated with a Christian. If one thinks that negative tv is of little avail, they need to read their Bibles. I am kind of curious now as to what some of you would warrant for some kind of boundary setting in this type of marriage. Since immorality on the tv doesn't, then what? And how does one know where to set the standard? If one makes allowances for the tv, where is it okay to draw the line? How "bad" does it have to be? Clearly, and not surprisingly, there is demonic oppression. A Christian doesn't just speak "in the name of Jesus" and make it go away. There are other principles which God has given us in the Bible when faced with such and opening the door to them and idly sitting by while they wreak havoc isn't one of them.
Talk about making up scenarios...observer, maybe you shouldn't try to read anything else,it may be incomprehensible to you as you don't seem to be able to correctly understand what I communicate. Considering what position it would put you in, I can understand why you might be so vehemently against checking out the website. I am wise enough to know that the answer is always in the Bible. I have tried to answer your questions and direct you to a place that is more thorough than I can be here which uses Scripture to warrant the response which I had given to Christopher.You,however, have yet to answer mine.And,"that piece of inspiration", as you call it is Bible. Lots and lots of Scripture taken into context to address a specific question trumps whatever Scripture or advice you can offer taken out of it. One may direct another Christian to a website if that website is Biblically sound. You never listen to a preacher or check out Christian websites? Is it just your take on the Bible that has value? Don't you know that Scripture is of no private interpretation? I,as a Christian,can know whether or not what is given as an answer from another source or from a source which uses Scripture is in line with the Bible or not. The Holy Spirit is very key in this endeavor.
I have already read and tested the answer on the website against Scripture. I can vouch for it. I recommended this to Christopher because it is very biblically sound. I'm hoping that he will be interested enough to check it out. This,by the way, "observer" who seemingly is only interested in "being the hero" was supposed to be for Christopher's best interest not as an exercise to boost your "ego". My gender is really irrelevant in the matter. I am a Christian though!
I referred Christopher and those who are sincerely interested to a website which uses the Bible in depth to address a specific concern. If you, observer, do not wish to check it out, that's on you. If I were you and wanted to be contentious in so doing that I wouldn't have mud in my eye as a result, I suppose that I would opt to avoid it. The main thing is that Christopher will have much to gain from reading it as it addresses his concern and gives Scripture (in context)to do so.
It doesn't have to be in front of a child. The point still sticks. That's why there is demonic oppression. There is a principle of that which one is subjected to and what consequently entails. That's why Job would not put anything evil before his eyes. watermelon, do you put anything before your eyes? Are you the product of cheap grace? You cannot understand the concept of boundaries?
I'm not that familiar with this site but I did come across it and thought it would be very valuable for Christopher and informative for others: www.gotquestions.org search "What are boundaries, and are they biblical?" Lots and lots of Scripture!! Now, since I have answered your objections, answer me this: Would you allow your spouse ,even as immaterial as it is according to the watermelon man, "watch an inappropriate tv show in front of your child? And, if you have no problem with that, perhaps you could give Scripture to defend your answer.