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Klem and Frank,thank you both for your comments.Tragically,very true. It's difficult to even try to make visits at the ones near me. They go out of their way to prevent anyone from trying to extend a hand to those gentle souls in their nursing homes. And,sadly,a lot of pastors have no interest in visiting unless it's to have a singing group "entertain" them for an hour.I'm sure that there must be a special place in hell for those who do not repent of having mistreated the weak and vulnerable.
Thank you,Jim,for the link. What you say,Dolores, about things which anger us controlling us is true.I'm just not sure how you are making the application on this thread. Please distinguish between being zealous for the truth and being angered. Hopefully, you are not angry as there is no need to be unless it is for having been deceived. I know of a woman who works in a local store who was deceived for many years by one word faith preacher,specifically,the Copeland guy. She did come out of that,which I thank the Lord for and I respect her very much for having the integrity to do that.I'm sure that we have all had to set aside some ideas which we found out countered the Word of God. I used to be duped by the holy days. We are all learning,hopefully.
Well stated Augie! Please correct me if I'm in error but I don't recall reading of the disciples or Apostles dealing with a worship team. Is that even in the NT? I do know that way too much emphasis is placed on the music and I would go so far as to suggest that most churches would not have a congregation if it wasn't for their band...sadly. Hi, Dorcas! Ladybug has been doing a very fine job of presenting,comprehensively,the facts. I'm beginning to think that those who do not have ears to hear may be RC themselves. Maybe that's why they choose to ignore the data so as to not have to face excommunication or have to face the fact that they have been contributing to such deception.
Keep presenting the facts,ladybug. Truth always trumps lies. Some die hard hard heads may not get it but maybe Franklin Graham will before his time on earth passes. Those who are inclined to give on and around the 25th day of the 12th month might want to also consider that there are another 300 plus days to do so and that there are other ways to contribute what God has given them than to organizations which support popish causes. Maybe a local gospel mission or food pantry for starters. We don't have to be limited in our giving to the overrated/over publicized institutions. We can just look around us-always someone to bless.
Carl,I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt when I stated "naive" and shame on you for suggesting that I have not prayed for the Grahams. Now,thanks to ladybug's very comprehensive and laid out (again) word for word BG response, you can either appreciate the truth and benefit there by or ,since her post is very informative, read it and be ignorant (willfully)...however,after reading the post, being "naive" would no longer be applicable. And others who object to the presentation of facts, when they conflict with their idols, need to work on discerning what the difference is between exposing error and what constitutes an offensive remark.
Carl, you too are naive/ignorant in regards to the Grahams? Have you never heard his interviews with Larry King and Robert Schuller? Those who do not respect them (Grahams) are the Christians who have listened to them and have familiarized,even written to them so as to confirm their incorrect doctrinal stands and alliance with the RC church. It is best not to speak against workers of righteousness,as you say...you make my point. "Workers of righteousness" is the qualification. And please note that you are in company with "John Y" who calls himself a Christian, will not disclose to his RC church that he "believes in faith alone in Christ alone" which would make him an anathema there and who attends Mass regularly- the "offering up of "Christ"-their perpetually emaciated,inadequate savior"...and "the well known BG supporter on here who either refuses to listen to Graham's interviews and/or address the issue with her pastor who either refuses to further address the issue. Ignorance may be bliss in the world but it is should not be embraced by Christians.
Following your reasoning,John,you could just as easily attend satanic or atheist churches. It might be better for you than the RC church; at least,the satanic and atheist churches are not disingenuous as to where they stand. If you find my recommendation problematic, you might have to rethink the church attendance argument which you repeatedly give.
We are what we take in. If we feed our flesh we will have a much more difficult time resisting/fleeing temptation. The truth sets us free. If we live by it, we don't have to be a slave to sin or our lustful passions.
Jason Cooley on SA has a very fair (taken from Graham's own autobiography) sermon on BG, for any who would care to listen. If I was supporting someone who claimed to be a Christian, I would like to know where they stand and whether or not they deviate from the Word of God. If I have been warned and I don't take heed, then I will have to answer to God. If I have the knowledge and don't reveal it to others then I will answer to God. And if I do listen to interviews and find that I am in error, I need to warn others. And in all fairness, if I can refute the objections then I need to correct those who think that they are exposing error....based on the FACTS. Truth is what matters; if we stay deluded we are of no benefit to anyone else and we make the truth of none effect.
I think that what might help brothers in Christ more when around immodestly dressed women is to consider/recognize the ugliness of spirit which lurks inside the decorated package donning the sleazy attire. Those who love God and set no unclean thing before their eyes will fare better. These women who dress like this need to know the Lord and men need to quit being so duped. Would you be attracted to a hag/demon if they were immodestly attired? It's always easier to be attracted to an image when one doesn't have to relate to it..."vain imaginations". Most women who dress immodestly do so being very well aware of what they're doing. Men beware! If you actually got to know the image behind the apparel, you would have rather wished that you had seen it for what it is instead of falling into its snare.
At least they are being more consistent with their core values. God doesn't need to take second place along side of paganism. The military has embraced wiccan practices,winked at homosexuality and closed its eyes to lewdness. God doesn't need to be a banner for a country or for its institutions which have forsaken or mocked Him.
Loxburgh, not only will they suffer an eternity of hell,if they don't repent,but they will,more likely than not, get a taste of it in their unholy matrimony. 2 witches marrying...can they even sleep without having one eye open at all times?
John Y, is your RC church unaware of their very own statement "..."If anyone says that the sinner is justified by faith alone, meaning that nothing else is required to cooperate in order to obtain the grace of justification, and that it is not in any way necessary that he be prepared and disposed by the action of his own will, let him be anathema" (session VI, can. 9)." ??? If you told them that you believe such, why have they not excommunicated you or cut you off from the church?
The article reads "... local Church leaders said he (Francis) would endorse the mixing of faith with consumerism. ..." Nothing new there.Isn't the RC church just another venue for consumerism to begin with? I agree,Jim. Are you so sure that the churches don't own them?
That- "...I think it is ironic that all the energy put into special services, decorations, concerts, etc in December does not result in an upturn in church attendance in January." ... is to be expected as all of those festivities appeal to the flesh. It is the Word of God that makes the difference; Faith comes by hearing the Word of God, not by vain traditions of men/ or "Christian" veneers.
toomuch, much of what you is very true and I think that most of us would be in support of a woman staying at home and taking care of the children and house. It's admirable if you still hold to that conviction; children need their mothers indeed! Feminism is just rebellion and has proliferated to the point that families reap what has been sown by the women who wanted to have their "freedom" to be in the workplace/have their career be a reflection of their independence,etc. Now, most women have to work to make ends meet and many men are so feminized or lazy that they are more than happy to let women help support them or even make them responsible for financially taking care of their own children. How many children even know who their dads are or even get support from the ones who are absent? Sin begets unpleasant consequences and redefines what is normal. It's unlikely that things will change course now. It's a very good time to know the Lord-our only real Hope!