Kev wrote: So it seems pretty clear mystery Babylon called 'the great city' in Rev 18:16 is Jerusalem notice what Rev calls 'the great city':
thank you Lurker and Kev for this conversation. Futurism is a new hermeneutical system based on darby/scofield, many think the Catholics and the Pre-world war Zionists had a hand in it at oxford press....and it cuts off revelations as the future. (ignoring the strong warning at the end of the book not to cut it off)
I am of the belief that Revelations is for the believer to help them endure till the end.
and yes, it is clearly said there what Kev described, the great city, where Jesus was crucified, that being spiritual Sodom.
this doesn't make the RCC any better or worse but the spiritual root is brought back to the great city as opposed to the New Jerusalem, as written in Revelations.
Problem with futurists is that their theology weds them to physical Jerusalem, and they heed not the warnings of revelations because they are falsely told these things are the future.
if the religious system denies Christ came it the flesh, then it is antichrist.
I interacted with some feminists today in a business transaction and was confounded by their [email protected] for men in conversation, there is no consoling if there is a different point of view, just very angry people. no peace in them. I read a scripture the other day but can't remember where it was about those who fear death, and I think there is something to this... their views, their wsys have not prevented mortality and even sped the way. culture tried to circumvent this reality by tattoos, earrings and clothes with skulls and bones, in a way trying to mock death. but in reality, I think that they fear it and they cannot reconcile their increased poverty and disease of these decades with their coming mortality.
I think it really bothers them and it makes them angry, because the anger I saw was more than situational, if everyone agreed with them on everything, they'd still be angry.
there is a great internal spiritual darkness that leads so many to WANT to believe that Chrsitianity is as violent as Islam because when they hear of Christ, they think of sin, death, decay and can't get past it.
and so they turn on the messengers.
there's nothing to do with these types because they are in a delusion, except that the gospel of Christ can even be given as they persecute us...
Great Sermon! thank you for this window into pietism, very helpful. as you read from "Christian" texts was sobering as to how far the feelings based, individualistic teachings are going. every man an island unto himself!
Great Sermon! I wonder if the church has begun to ask the question why they lost the working class yet a candidate can speak their language? I hear a lot of judgment coming against them from established, mainstream leaders, perhaps those 'left behind' have missed something valuable that God was trying to do through them? We are the deplorables..... apparently.
was looking at electrical bill. bills going up so fast and rent, people are getting pushed out of places to live, and you find all these astronomical fees for debasing the environment. it is really a tax, because giving them more money isn't helping the environment, but then they say, use less. and then many try to use less and with smart meters their bills aren't going down. this is a form of rationing, and also they build high end houses and low end apartments but not modest homes.... it is pushing single family homes into multi family dwellings, and then they get pressured by insurance, etc, or people moving to smaller abodes where they have less control and cannot grow food.
it is happening right before our eyes.
the whole gm ethanol industry has been in full bloom for many years.
what do we need to encourage large families?
stability, land ownership, ability to benefit from work of own hands, ability to take care of one's own body... these are spiritual issues.
when a man says the herd must be culled to save the earth it is a religion fruited from atheism and Darwin and more deeply from the accuser of men's souls.
Let's get back to a discussion of communism as a religion and a cult. don't drink the koolaid!
John UK wrote: . The way some people speak, you'd think that Christianity was something to be intellectually grasped, whereas we know that without the quickening and enlightening of the Spirit by God's will, we would not even understand the cross and what it means to be born again. I too will miss Andrea's warmth and love.
agree. Thank you. and it is a Spirit-filled and empowered life, whatever intellect we might even have, if rightly applied is a gift from above, Martin Lloyd Jones teaching has been a blessing. Andrea's been a witness to the shenanigans of the western interventions, right there the gateway to Europe. Lord bless her and protect her in Jesus name. And to my dear sister SF as well in her faithfulness.
its social control, not true community. people censor their real lives and fcbk censors certain views (remember him meeting with Merkel and going after any against islmc invasion?) at best its a convenient tool. tell someone you love them today by instead of writing about yourself and the bird on the ledge outside the window or the rude driver on the road, rather call them, go see them, send them a letter and tell them they matter to you.
Great Sermon! Responding to Lisa: I to will be praying you. God is so faithful. He will not fail, seek him with all you have and He will meet you. His promises are true if we tie into them and ask Him to perform His promise to us.
and yes, missionaries are being brought back. churches have less funds, people are out of work. and massive immigration taking any jobs left. don't expect gen x and millennials to float huge budgets, they can't! AND China merging in Asia countries making costs skyrocket, money doesn't go as far. and you aren't going to hear this from the "tither" pastors who think someone on fixed income with increasing monthly costs has any money left at end of month -- we used to see them as "the poor and needy" not as $ receptacles.
John UK, the good news is that where 2,3 are gathered in HIs name He is there. So let's pray for God to bring together the brethren, it does not have to be in an incorpated church, it can be a few people getting together to worship and read the scriptures and pray for one another. Additionally, one can share the gospel with others, pass out bibles, and anyone interested discipled, well, there's the church. However, let the scriptures confine who we fellowship with, not necessarily the teachings of men, even those who claim to be "more conservative" than the rest (stoicism in the flesh is no replacement for the work of the Holy Spirit!).... have you ever seen or met someone and knew they belonged to Christ even before they said a word?
wonder what this might sound like, if many made this into a psalm and sung it for the masses to hear.....
comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God. Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned: for she hath received of the LORD's hand double for all her sins. The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our GOd. Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low; and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain: and the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it. Isaiah 40
yes, Christians should have been active in all areas of public life, and it was their responsibility. however we had neopietists who insisted that their men stay on the side line and silence themselves (the 501c3 mantra, the easy believism mantra) as not to offend. how "offensive" to have a Christian mayor that fires corrupt police officers and cleans up prostitute corners and encourages legit businesses! no, we'd rather be ruled by tyranny that to speak with the wisdom that only Christ gives? (what the world desperately needs in their confusion)
so our "holy" men protected within the churches spent their time silencing and controlling men of God out in the real world, and as a result, we never actually needed the tyrants to hibernate the Christians church, we did it to each other.
may God continue to raise up a sanctified people prepared for the spiritual battle for the souls of men.
Norm Hager wrote: I have always found it hard to understand how the ACLU can support a perceived right of a few while trampeling on the rights of thousands and call themselves protecters of civil rights.
I'm thinking this was a rhetorical question but thought I would add this...
is there a religion behind the aclu that is explicitly antichrist?
and are we seeing the Ephesians teaching on the spiritual battle (in a nation that teaches rationalism?) -- that this is an issue of spiritual principlaties and powers that we have given power to through our institutions rather than seeing spiritual realities through the eyes of scripture (ie the idols professionalized themselves, if it was called molech and they sacrificed babies in the high place in the city in the open maybe we'd recognize it better?)
I'm perfectly fine with the day of atonement being on the "wrong day", it was set on the calendar months after early churches celebration of Christ's resurrection.
that's perfectly alright with me.
the idea of the standardized calendar is that the main points of the faith and biblical history are taught throughout the year.
I tend to go to follow teaching verse by verse and that is helpful as well for learning how to read the Word.
A shared experience is a blessing. where 2 or 3 are gathered in My Name, I am there, Christ says.
I'm personally sad to see the nativity scenes go. They represent an event in history that changed the world forever and was planned from the beginning. Emmanuel, God with us.
This is good for children to see. Instead now they are singing commnst style songs, the old words are being changed for the self to be lost in the greater good, and just the fact that Christians believe that this Christ child came is lost.
So these generations will be like the soviet children, "what is GOd? I've never heard of this."