lxx not rex wrote: The preface of the Septuagint marketed today points out
funny that. dead sea scroll article as we are on. go to their website. they found copies in Hebrew and Greek. Greek was the common language at the time of Christ. Greek is found everywhere in that region. It makes since that the scriptures would also be in Greek because Hebrew was not common at that point, they had been in diaspora so long. God has always provided scriptures in the common languages. it is a common theme of the preface of the KJV, look also at the London Confession of Faith. It speaks of going to the original languages for dispute and keeping a bible in the common language of the people.
now a hyper-KJVO thinks their version is inherent, (even above the Greek) so they will actually force missionaries to teach their people of whatever language, Old English, instead of translating from the original Greek to the common language. This is in the tradition of the RCC who would not let the bible be translated from Latin or the muslems from Arabic. In fact, creating a stumbling block.
this conversation has been enlightening. there are many churches that would literally shun a man who started learning the original languages.
Tim Hornton, well they would need to know Greek and then their mother tongue. they would need to be biblicists. as were the translators of the KJV. they would likely meet with our Greek scholars who meticulously study the texts closest to Christ using textual criticism. following in the footsteps of Christ who used the Septuagint. Hebrew would also be helpful.
Greek scholars sitting at 1611 seminaries know there are problems with the KJV. as offensive as this is to some, and as incredible a version that it is, it has gone through some revisions. this is not about having doubts about the Word, its about getting the fullest meaning and understanding out of the text. historical understanding is important too. Jesus and the Apostles used language and locations that were familiar to people of that time. That time was much like today's time. It is the blessing of scripture that we never conquer it, but let us be conquered by it.
The Qumran community (dead sea scrolls) existed because of the pharasees and the abominations being committed at the temple. There were people crying out at the time for God to send His Messiah and to resolve these evils. Soon Jesus came and pronounced, "I am the temple of God". God had all of these things ordained as witness to the world. Praise the Lord!
here's the irony... those who would take fetal cell lines into their blood for health don't know that God has provided a few distinct things in nature that eliminates shgles.... people having great success in fact.
here's a current list of fetal cell lines that Christians are currently injecting into their blood for what they call health:
anyone can go and read if the shingles batch they just took for what they call health has the fetal cell line. it names the product name and manufacturer. of the particular shingles vaccine, they used WI-38 and MRC 5.
WI-38 is derived from lung tissue of a three month old white female fetus.
As for the MRC 5, it is lung tissue taken from a 14 week male fetus aborted for psychiatric reasons from a 27 year old physically healthy woman.
and nameless one, flu shots have had fetal cell lines for a long time. this is the first year I'm seeing them entirely removed. so it was not inaccurate. if you notice on that website, they are saying the new 2015-16 batches. and if you notice the brother in Christ here, his testimony of the mercury/flu shot experience, anyone listening?
Christopher, I just noticed your personal comment, hadn't seen it before. Yes, you think I was harsh. That's alright, I think in due time you will understand, I've seen you grow in the Lord even in this short time. The truth is that I am frustrated for you. You are walking a similar path that my family has walked, let me tell you there are others out there that have asked the tougher questions and have found answers, the Lord be with you.
Christopher, its not about feelings. you have to study the subject for yourself. there was a doctor who was well established, family line, and had a prick of conscience, and decided she would study the subject for herself. she did thousands of hours of study on her own time and is now a helpful resource. it doesn't take that long for the "layman". a few charts says it all, an ingredients list, a video watching before and after pictures of a child, their own words, the fact they exempt themselves. you are going to have to care about this, if you are looking for Godly men who will lead you here, look, they are not there. I once was young, looking for older women who would do such a thing. They loved the abortifacients, one friend even would admit to me knew they were wrong, but wouldn't change their ways. until people are willing to change their own ways and repent before God, they can't lead you. get on vactruth and just start reading. for every point they make there'll be smear pieces. often written by a pharma underwriter. its corruption brother, deep corruption, and big $$ like the world has never seen.
I've never known John UK or Mike to be "tricky" either. Nor the men of God that I know that are fluent in the original languages that have brought depth to my understanding of scripture. Nor the KJV which has been a blessing to me. Nor the dead sea scrolls that testify to the generations that God's Word has been consistent over the centuries. These men of God are sometimes the few that are willing to be nonconformists, willing to suffer for the cross. I'm thankful all around for these gifts of the Lord.
this has been happening a long time. there was an expose from prolifers floating around from 2000 or so, besides my other comments bring us back to the 1960's. we have an admin today that openly celebrates this things, lest I remind all that just a few days after the last admin, Laura was on tv saying she was actually proabortion? -- how fondly to our neocon brethren extol the last leader has righteous while the same barbaric trade was going on?
somehow this fits into the narrative that if we just vote in a new pres its all ok, well it was all ok with our ethicists that this was going on as long as it wasn't in their faces, well just a few years ago. yes, horror is the proper response, but until we are willing to see the full picture, we are just in blind judgment. Lord open the eyes of the church.
Christopher000 wrote: I have a question because these threads bring out
Christopher, what you have are a bunch of young families on here that have seen firsthand destroyed children and older folks that grew up with propaganda and didn't face so much of this (although their generation is dying of cancer and they cannot see the link)
I've provided links to the polio issue that explains it very thoroughly. Until you are willing to do the research you'll have to follow popular opinion and watch it happen to someone you love. in the meantime they've mandated them for children in CA and are trying to mandate them on adults. why should I go to the trouble of posting how polio was diagnosed, how polio definition was changed, how it was renamed, and data that shows the drops before the vaccine was introduced, besides the original creators testimonies of the sv40 virus?
you come to modernists and want them to give you reasons why its ok, its ok, because they've been brainwashed.
this industry is intricately involved in the PP scandal. fetal cell lines were developed in the 1960's. do you understand there were NORMAL pregnancies with possible exposure to rubella that were terminated to harvest organs?
I wonder what lesbian women who are in a public bathroom are going to feel when they have a man come in who says he "identifies" female and watches them. will they call the police? will a normal family man outside hear their cries for help and come help them when it is perfectly in his bounds to pretend he is a female and stands there while they disrobe?
I wonder what sodomite men who took the girl child from a heterosexual bond are going to do when she is being approached in the bathrooms by men who "identify" as a lesbian female.... will they protect the little girl?
perversion always leads to the violence on innocents, can they not see what they are unleashing?
sc, I don't know that I can speak for what Christians are thinking anymore. They've gone quiet for the most part. it is a spiritual battle, I've always felt the age of enlightened intelligence was a bit of ruse.
sc, I imagine sants is easy sells because people like idols. I think many even like the idea you have to "be good" and then you get all this great stuff.
who would volunteer to suffer, unless they are transformed for a new purpose, to represent Christ to this lost world?
They are certainly showing their true colors now.... next step is human sacrifice in the open. They have been doing the baby sacrifices in the PPs for a long time, and of course its occultic. the concept of the intellectual age just may be going out the door. There is some good in this, let them see evil for what it is, should cause repulsion and fear.
Reminds me of this, "perfect love casts out all fear."
I heard something about the statue of liberty being the same as the ancient ISIS, idol of fertility, found that interesting considering what perversions Hollywood and now as a nation we are exporting and forcing on the world.