B. McCausland wrote:
God's pure Word

B. McCausland wrote:
Thank you

B. McCausland wrote:
Dean J W Burgon (1813-1888) stated that those asking, ‘Whether … the Textus Receptus was infallible?’ or did raise irrelevant discussions regarding Erasmus’ flaws, intended to “throw dust into the eyes - to divert attention …”
Admitting that ‘any text would show the ‘old uncials’ (handwriting used especially in Greek and Latin manuscripts of the fourth to the eighth centuries AD) perpetually at discord among themselves’, and after having personally checked 86.489 quotations from the Church Fathers against the RT, (these left at his death unpublished in sixteen thick manuscripts found in the British Museum) and having handled numerous trustworthy manuscripts representing older documents than themselves, found that:
1. the writings of Eusebius, Athanasious, Basil, the Gregories, Didymus, Epiphanius, Chrysostom, the Cyrils and Theodoret provided contemporaneous evidence against the Critical Text promoted by Westcort and Hort.
2. “The writing of Irenaeus, Clemen Alex, Origen, Dionysius Alex, Hippolytus met with older evidence still”
Facts from ‘The Revision Revised’ by Dean J W Burgon pp 17-19 (1) Centennial Edition

B. McCausland wrote:
"The key to being a successful false teacher is to tell as much of the truth as possible"

Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD: And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall not find [it]. Amos 8:11-12

B. McCausland wrote:
any preacher true to the word will not be popular

Albert wrote:
Jim, read whites book years ago, he lies. Felt a devilish oppression the whole time I was reading it .

ladybug wrote:
I would NOT be so quick to exalt MacArthur, a man who has many questionable teachings and admits he has no idea when he was converted...
PHIL: How old were you when you first recall sensing your need for Christ?
JOHN: Well I always believed the gospel. I don't ever...I don't ever remember a time when I didn't believe the gospel. I mean, it was so wonderfully modeled by my Mom and Dad, it was so consistent. They were exactly at home what they were in the church. And what my Dad was in the pulpit he was in the house. And Christ was always very wonderful to me and inviting to me. And my Mom and Dad lived out their Christian life before me. And so, I never rebelled against it. I always knew I needed Jesus to be my Savior....
And I remember my Dad praying with me on the steps that the Lord would save me. There may have been other times that I brought it up, but that one stands out in my mind. And as to whether I was actually converted at that time, I don't know. Again, in the years following I never rebelled, I was always responsive to the things of Christ. But I don't know that they were really the dominant matters of my life and the priorities that early."

Lurker wrote:
dirty tricks are merely an excuse for lack of knowledge of the truth and self glorification.

[URL=http://samgipp.com/answerbook/?page=47.htm]]]The Greek Game-shown by Dr Gipp[/URL]

I got good grades in Greek and played this game for years until I realized, as you say " I could spend the same time being taught of the Lord (Is 54:13)."
rather than twisting /playing.
or like Purpose Driven types do searching the 100+ counterfeits to "prove" my point.
Hoggard repented of this too.
Most "nuggets" that preachers find in the Greek exist only in the fantasy of their minds.

1st anyone who believes that the Bible is the word of God, cannot believe that it can be improved on... even by them. Most men who discover "nuggets" are filled with a prideful humility through which they believe that God is going to show them something in the Greek that no one else has found. Then they can "humbly" impress their preacher friends with their monumental "grasp" of the original language.

Lurker wrote:
Apologist's bag of dirty tricks. James White

If anyone would read his book several times through, a very definite set of problems surfaces over and over again. These problems caused me to question Mr. White's honesty, integrity and character. These problems are listed below.

1. The author has a double standard when dealing with groups or individuals.

2. The author misrepresents people.

3. The author frequently does not give full/objective evidence when defending his position or attacking his opponents.

4. The author's assumptions are based on scholarship that is humanistic.

5. The author has no proof for many of the statements he makes.

6. The author has no tangible final authority.

7. The author has little biblical or scriptural foundation for his beliefs.

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His non -biblical assumptions
1. Satan never in 6,000 years of biblical history influenced anyone to change anything God said.

2. No intentional textual corruption ever survived to make it into any existing greek texts.

3. Only the original writings of the biblical authors were inspired and inerrant.

Observer wrote:
labelled the KJV's as hate speech!
devil's stratagems

There's an old police detective saying: If a man is lying and you keep asking him questions, he'll eventually change his story; but if a man is telling the truth, he cannot change his story no matter how many questions you ask him.

Likewise, Satan is a liar, which is why he keeps changing the Bible by producing new versions; but the King James Bible tells the truth, which is why it hasn't changed since 1611. Although there have been numerous editorial revisions, there have been NO new translations of the King James Bible since 1611.
. The King James Bible came from Antioch, Syria. Thank God for the unchanging Word of God in the preserved, inerrant and inspired King James Bible.
"Be on guard against any tampering with the Word, whether disguised as a search for truth, or a scholarly attempt at apparently hidden meanings; and beware of the confusion created by the senseless rash of new versions, translations, editions, and improvements upon the tried and tested Bible of our fathers and grandfathers."

Observer wrote:
Devilish

'Many mss.(manuscripts) do not contain this verse.' 'The earliest mss read.' 'Some ancient mss add.' 'Many ancient authorities read.' 'Not found in the most of the old mss.' 'Some mss insert.' 'Some ancient mss do not contain.'

Unlike a good Chain-Reference Bible that points the reader to other texts on the same subject, these footnotes clearly show that the NASV translators, whilst putting on a show of apparent fairness, are really unsure of their own product. 'Is the NASV God's Word for Today or Not?' They obviously don't know or don't believe, else they would not insert so many conflicting footnotes; which not only cast doubt on the King James Bible,but also on their own version which is now being phased out for the newest fake.

John UK wrote:
I see it was Links who resurrected this old forum from 2010. I think Mike was right, he's just playing games, like a little child. They do say that people with dementia behave like that.

“If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like h*ll”.

[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/new_details.asp?ID=42913]]]missing Links -avoiding exposure of his EMPTY case[/URL]

B. McCausland wrote:
... verses ... omitted by New Jerusalem 1985, NASB,-

The NASB keeps on changing from one edition to the next. The changes introduced in the 1995 NASB update where it differs from the 1977 edition affect 10,616 verses and directly affect 24,338 words.19,572 corrections involving word omissions, additions, transpositions, or substitutions to the text of the NASB 1977. There are 6,966 fewer words in the 1995 edition than there were in the 1977 NASB

Other sites show variations on this "evolving" counterfeit :

[URL=http://www.hissheep.org/kjv/a_comparison_of_the_kjv_nasb.html%20]]]Compare THE Bible to NASB[/URL]

[URL=http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/NASV/new_american_standard_version_exposed.htm]]]Exposing the NASB[/URL]

[URL=http://www.biblebelievers.com/Vance3.html]]]History of NASB[/URL]

A good overview of all the counterfeits:

[URL=http://av1611.com/kjbp/charts/themagicmarker.html]]]Taking a magic marker to the Bible[/URL]

Tim Hortons wrote:
That's too bad they don't know the KJV,
Bottom line: the US is no longer a Christian country, if it ever was one.

You don't need to be a scholar to tell which Bible is the true one. God never intended His words of truth to be known or understood only by the scholars. They don't agree among themselves as to which text to follow or how to render it in English once they agree as to the text - as it witnessed by the conflicting NAS, NIV, ESV and NKJV. Jesus tells us "Beware of the scribes..." and in 1 Corinthians 1:19-20 "It is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this world? Hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?" There is an easy way for every Christian to test the multitude of conflicting Bible versions flooding the market today. Are they a true or a false witness? Mark 14:56 tells us: "For many bare false witness against him, but their witness agreed not together."

They think Satan is in control- and erect big statues to celebrate--
http://brandplucked.webs.com/satanorgodcontrols.htm

[URL=http://brandplucked.webs.com/ghosts.htm]]]a culture of kids who belive in ghosts[/URL]

[URL=http://brandplucked.webs.com/genderinclusiveversion.htm]]]with Gender confused nuttiness[/URL]

[URL=http://brandplucked.webs.com/mvsprideasvirtue.htm]]]who think pride is a virtue[/URL]

[URL=http://brandplucked.webs.com/mvsandracism.htm]]]a racist USA :favored races a la Darwin[/URL]

Rob wrote:
In the past 50yrs the Christian faith has progressed at a faster rate than ever before, not via the KJV.

So has it speedily progressed in the last 50 years to a laughing stock?

Can you please clarify your comments so there is no misunderstanding.