So I guess the Biblical Calvinist is no longer allowed to post here??

ladybug wrote:
1. You claim Christ taught Calvinism, how can that be since Calvin wasn't alive in Jesus' day?

2. On a side note,there were things taught by Calvin that were not biblical, such as infant baptism.

2. PaedoBaptism is an entirely Biblical doctrine.

WCF 28 Not only those that do actually profess faith in and obedience unto Christ,[a] but also the infants of one or both believing parents are to be baptized.[b]

[a]. Mark 16:15-16; Acts 8:37-38. • [b]. Gen 17:7, 9 with Gal 3:9, 14 and Col 2:11-12 and Acts 2:38-39 and Rom 4:11-12; Mat 28:19; Mark 10:13-16; Luke 18:15; 1 Cor 7:14.

ladybug wrote:
doctrines of grace originate with God

Quote;
"John Calvin, often regarded as "the systematizer of the Reformation," was a second generation Protestant Reformer of the sixteenth century who brought together biblical doctrine systematically, in a way that no other Reformer before him had done. At the same time, he was not an ivory tower scholar but a pastor who thought and wrote his theological works always with an eye to the edification of the Christian church. Although his views have not always been popular and have at times been grossly misrepresented, his system of theology has had a very wide influence down to the present time, as indicated by the fact that all Reformed and Presbyterian churches look back to him as the founder of their biblical - theological doctrinal position.
Scripture
The formal principle and source of Calvin's theological system is embodied in the Latin phrase sola Scriptura (Scripture only). In a strict sense Calvin was primarily a biblical theologian" (W.S.Reid) (Elwell Theol Dic))

Statement:-
Truth NEVER changes!

What was truth 2000 years ago
Was truth in the 16th century
Is truth today.

Christ spoke the truth.
Paul spoke the truth.
Apostles spoke the truth.

Tell me Do you believe that
Calvin,
Puritans
John Owen
Thomas Watson
Sibbes
Gurnall
Whitefield
Edwards
Spurgeon
Pink

Spoke the truth?

If these honourable servants of God spoke the truth and wrote the truth by the grace of God ......

Then the Calvinism they spoke was truth.

Thus by teaching the doctrines of Scripture as 'Calvinism' - Then Christ taught the truth = taught Calvinism.

John Yurich USA wrote:
It does not change the facts that the secular aspect of Christmas is pagan while the religious aspect(the Birth of Jesus) is not pagan.

Nobody knows the actual date of Christ's birth even back in the 2nd century apparently. But the various dates put forward were 'worked out' in various ways to arrive at a symbolic meaning, as Augustine's sermon suggests.

The modern commercialism of Christmas is just that - a modern phenomenon. Poor people in previous centuries could not celebrate in these ways and did not. Pre 1950's in the UK the celebration was by middle/upper class families. Indeed in Scotland it did not become a holiday until 1958.
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"In other writing of this time, May 20, April 18 or 19, March 25, January 2, November 17, and November 20 are all suggested.[8][60] Various factors contributed to the selection of December 25 as a date of celebration: it was the date of the winter solstice on the Roman calendar; it was about nine months after March 25, the date of the vernal equinox and a date linked to the conception of Jesus; and it was the date of a Roman pagan festival in honor of the Sun god Sol Invictus.

Solstice date

Mike wrote:
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume you didn't mean to say what you said. Because if you did, I thank God I am not a Calvinist.

Foreknow = By God will be 100 per cent accurate.

Predestinate = By God therefore will also be 100 per cent accurate.

He is omniscient and omnipotent.

Whom God foreknew and predestinated in the beginning of creation will come to pass.

If HE cannot foreknow and predestinate - Then HE would have to rely on dead sinners to initiate salvation. Which of course is salvation by works!!

ladybug wrote:
'ordained' Calvinism

C.H.Spurgeon stated in sermon that Calvinism *IS* the Gospel. And he is absolutely right. It is the voice of Scripture.

It is a great pity that many do not perceive the truth in Calvinism - But then many cannot perceive truth full stop.

Calvinism is the basis for the teachings of Christ and the Apostles - That is where it comes from. Paul demonstrates Calvinism as the very basis of all his doctrine. Calvinism is the litmus test of Bible truth in preaching. Calvinism worships God and is the basis of His doctrines.

Calvinism never claims to save - But the saved teach Calvinist doctrine.
Calvinism does not claim to be faith - But those who live by faith teach Calvinist doctrines as their interpretation of Scripture - Thus the light the truth and the way.

ladybug wrote:
brace myself for your mudslinging.

As for Providing proof of "ordained" Calvinism ???
What on earth are you talking about?

John Calvin is a respected theologian in the Reformed Church. God works in His servants to teach and to preach as I have already shown you from Scripture.

The 16th century Reformation was "ordained" by God to remove HIS Church from the Roman false witness. That is historic fact.

Idolatry - The worship of dead people and parts of dead peoples bodies - Was and IS the Roman idolatrous heretical product.
This is what SteveR is trying very hard to validate as "Christian."??

The Lord took the Protestant Church HIS (then) 'evangelical' people out of that Vatican antichrist perversion and planted the Reformed (Calvinist) Church to bring people back to Scripture and sound doctrines. This is the providence of God working in mankind's history.

SteveR wrote:
St Augustine is considered the principal theological creator of the Latin-Catholic system.

But notice (if you can) that by trying to associate Calvinism with the Idolatrous heretical Roman pseudo system - you are actually demonstrating your lack of awareness in the detail of Bible doctrines.

Just sayin wrote:
Noticed the beam?

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Lurker
Hi Freddie. Long time no talk! I see you are still out there somewhere.
You posted;
"Indeed God ordained the Reformation. But to say God ordained Calvinism is to say God ordained a fallible system of theology."

"Matt 10:29 Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father."

Now c'mon Lurker if a sparrow can get into the act surely a Good Biblical Calvinist can!!!
Here is a wee bit good Biblical Calvinism for you....
1. God is omnipotent.
2. God is omniscient.
3 Which qualifies God's Sovereignty in a more extensive Biblical reality than those whose image of God is of a lesser god!

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Ladybug said;
"that explains why Seaton has jumped on a couple of my responses lately."

1. My name is not Seaton and never has been!!

2. The reason why I 'debated' with you is that is one of the reasons for posting here.

ladybug wrote:
Some wear the label 'calvinist' as though it were a badge of honor. He is also accredited with the doctrines of grace. God the Spirit is the author of these doctrines, not Calvin. Some elevate him to 'pope' status ......

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Calvinism is like the Bible -
Many who claim to comprehend Calvinism, in fact do not!
Just as many who claim to know the Bible do not.
As God ordained the Reformation to separate the Church from the false witness, so He ordained Calvinism to separate His sheep from the many other flocks.

There is two ways of approaching this question.

1. Can sinners be quote "arrogant jerks"?

2. Is the theological doctrinal system called Calvinism - based upon human characteristics of "arrogant jerks"

1. Yes of course the sinner can sometimes be described as an arrogant jerk. The mortal does not need a system of theology or doctrine to bring that out in anybody.

BTW Jerk means (Dictionary) = "Slang. a contemptibly naive, fatuous, foolish, or inconsequential person."

2. The Theological system and doctrine of Calvinism is entirely Biblical and is well exemplified by the acronym TULIP - The Doctrines of Grace. Those who fully understand Calvinism perceive by grace that it is Biblical. Those who cannot understand Calvinism such as Roman Catholics, Liberals and Arminians construct alternative kinds of doctrine which invariably includes human action of one sort or another for salvation.

Biblical Calvinism knows a totally sovereign God and a Totally depraved human being. This is Biblical doctrine perceived by the Christian.

ladybug wrote:
There are NO infallible men, including Calvin. There is much wrong with what he did and taught, so upholding him as some sort of saint is not a good idea. Calvin isn't God now is he?

NB: "God hath set"

God has used people in history to further His purpose and build His Church. So do not cut God out of the equation or church building of history.
All people are sinners and prior to God's conversion of them they are living within His wrath (Eph 2:3) because of what they are. But when He decides they will serve His purpose then the result and the works of them are wrought of God. Try not to dismiss this.

Jim Lincoln wrote:
I’ll Take Hillary Clinton Over Donald Trump--- "Hillary Clinton Is Despicable, But Trump Is Worse"

GOD rejected Hillary.
All sane people reject the Democrats.
Whose side are you on Jim??

Remember what God says
Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil"

SteveR wrote:
Not really in this case
Historically, it was the Reformers that formed alliances with the Ottoman Empire against the Catholic Hapsburgs.

Santa and commercial Christmas is a powerful tradition and statement in western society. The kids love every part of it! What covetous mortal doesn't. Truth is such a spoil sport!!