M. Henry on Gen. 14:17-20 "He was king of Salem and priest of the most high God; and other glorious things are said of him, Heb_7:1, etc. 1. The rabbin, and most of our rabbinical writers, conclude that Melchizedek was Shem the son of Noah, who was king and priest to those that descended from him, according to the patriarchal model. But this is not at all probable; for why should his name be changed? And how came he to settle in Canaan? 2. Many Christian writers have thought that this was an appearance of the Son of God himself, our Lord Jesus, known to Abram, at this time, by this name, as afterwards, Hagar called him by another name, Gen_16:13. He appeared to him as a righteous king, owning a righteous cause, and giving peace. It is difficult to imagine that any mere man should be said to be without father, without mother, and without descent, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, Heb_7:3. It is witnessed of Melchizedek that he liveth, and that he abideth a priest continually (Gen_14:3, Gen_14:8); nay (Gen_14:13, Gen_14:14), the apostle makes him of whom these things are spoken to be our Lord who sprang out of Judah. It is likewise difficult to think that any mere man should, at this time, be greater than Abram in the things of God,...
Fisher: "Q. 19. Why was Christ vested with this threefold office? A. The nature of our salvation required that it should be revealed by him as a Prophet; purchased by him as a Priest; and applied by him as a King.
Q. 20. Did ever ALL these offices center in any ONE person except Christ alone? A. No; for, in order to set forth the vast importance of these offices, as united in the person of Christ, none of those who were typical of him under the Old Testament were ever clothed with all the three: this honour was reserved for himself, as his peculiar dignity and prerogative; John 14:6 -- "I am the way, and the truth, and the life;" that is, the WAY in my death, as a Priest; the TRUTH in my word, as a Prophet; and the LIFE in my Spirit, as a King.
Q. 21. In what states does Christ execute all these offices? A. Both in his estate of humiliation on earth, and in his state of exaltation in heaven.
Q. 22. What do you understand by Christ's executing of his offices? A. His doing or fulfilling what was incumbent upon him, in virtue of each of these offices, Matt. 3:15."
role playing wrote: Then the question is when he began His priestly role, and if it had ANY correlation with the Levitical priesthood.
Q. 10. Was he ordained or appointed to these offices? A. Yes, from all eternity; 1 Pet. 1:20 -- "Who, verily, was foreordained before the foundation of the world."
Q. 11. What were the necessary consequences of this eternal designation? A. His mission and call.
Q. 12. In what consisted his mission? A. In his being promised, Isa. 7:14, and typified under the Old Testament, John 3:14; and in his being actually sent, in the fullness of time, to assume our nature, and finish the work which was given him to do, Gal. 4:4, 5.
Q. 13. Was he formally called to his mediatory office? A. Yes; he did not take this honour unto himself, but was called of God, as was Aaron, Heb. 5. 4, 5.
Q. 14. Of what parts did his call consist? A. Of his unction and inauguration.
Q. 15. What do you understand by his unction? A. The consecration of him to all his mediatory offices, John 10:36; and the giving of the Spirit, with all his gifts and graces, without measure to him, that he might be fully furnished for the execution of these offices, John 3:34.
Rodney, you might like to hear Stephen Charnock read by a man from Ezekiel 9:4 on Mourning for Others Sins. I found it helpful I really enjoy reading Charnock because he elevates one's view of God by his understanding of the Scripture.
Thank you Dorcus for the psalm. I too live in the rural mountains, where guns are a common sound day and night. I suspect at dusk and just past they're jack-lighting deer. Ladybug thanks for you post. It is common here for the men folk to be armed. Not so much the women. I've never cared for guns, but I do I think it's lawful to uphold & protect life.
Appreciated Matthew Henry's thoughts. There are events in life that make the hypothetical less so. I was concerned with the war against the flesh and spirit that the incident provoked and I was thankful to God for the historic examples of what the godly have done in times past. They too found themselves in positions where the normal means of protection were not in place, as they once were.
I do believe that all this is relative to Romans 1. What begins with worshiping and serving the creature rather than the Creator, ends in the downward slide of the reprobate; the signs of which are listed in that same chapter. Perilous times are mentioned in 2 Tim.3; 8Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. 9But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.
Someone tried to break into my house two nights ago. The house is old, poorly lit and there was no car in the drive way. I was upstairs not yet asleep. I thought I heard something and tried to convince myself it was in all in my mind.
Next morning when I was letting the dog out (who's too old to bark now) I stepped on the door handle. I had an inside lock which appeared was the secondary deterrent, God being my primary protector.
I spoke to a neighbor this morning who works for the town. He said there been a rash of vandalism on older homes that look abandoned, related to heroin addiction among the youth. They are taking out all the copper pipe and even pulling wires out of the walls.
I found my comfort on the first day of the new year meditating on two messages I heard; 'The Consequences of Sin in this World' I listened to 12/31 and 'The Consequences of Sin in the World to Come', the next day 01/01.
The Scripture that came to mind with power in the second message was Matt.10:28 The whole incident did put the life to come in sharper focus.
B. McCausland wrote: ..and may we nourish each other along Ep 4:15-16 God bless Kind regards
Eph 4:15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: Eph 4:16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.
I've recently been reading through 2 Chron. It is note worthy that it was the Davidic Kings that cleansed the temple after seasons of apostasy. I've been listening to a message that compared Christ's temptation in the wilderness to Israels' in the wilderness. They were tempted by hunger, by thinking their privileges as the people of God, superseded obedience to God and to their false worship (1 Cor.10:20). Christ was anointed as the (Prophet/Priest/) King of Israel at his baptism by a birth-right priest/prophet John Baptist and *he cleansed the temple* which is what the Jews expected of David's son as 2 Chron. upholds the kings that cleansed the temple as exemplary sons of David for so doing.
I was encouraged to think of all that Christ has done and is doing to fulfill Scripture until his second Advent
Listened to 2 sermons mentioned here. I can't recall hearing Mc Arthur before? He gave an estimated number of Americans, I presume; that will die this year from all the various causes. The primary cause is the soul that sins must die, one way or another; his sermon made that clear. I looked at ladybugs link , the writtings of James Meikle, then I listened to 'The Idolatry, Superstition and Sinfulness of Xmas,Christ-Mass, ChristMass, Christmas' Jim Dodson 12/22/1015. I have concluded if not baking cookies, I ought to be stacking wood and cleaning. I am a weak and feckless woman. God forgive me. Not for being a woman, but being a weak one, so easy deceived.
Listen to why idolatry destroys the souls of those who engage in it. Why men ought to protect weak women and children from it. In Ladybugs link Meikle stated â€śLife is much esteemed, but little improved â€” while death is treated like a fiction.. belief of death, is of great importance to our living happily, as well as dying hopefully. The prospect of death will prevent us from being puffed up with prosperity, or depressed with adversity, since this is the termination of both.â€ť Mr. Dodson warns what will destroy the souls of those you love, the Christian's greater concern, 2nd to the glory of God.
Not sure it isn't in part my ability to articulate what I'm trying to say. To put thoughts into words is not easy, for a wordy woman in post it notes.
Appreciated your thoughts. A perfect example of not understanding the seriousness of oaths and vows was cookie lacking example. I was shocked at the lack of the fear of God in what was stated.
That is the kind of thing warned of in the NT Scripture. I believe in the text you mention Jacob wanted to call God to witness what Esau said and he agreed to it at the time. As far as Esau was concerned it meant if I fail to keep my word, God is the witness against me. God forgives sin but chastens his own, see Hebrews 12:5 to the end of the chapter where this incident is spoken of regarding Esau. God differentiates not based on men's works but Christ's on their behalf. One can choose not to vow. I believe we lack the fear of God, as we ought. I also believe He is patient knowing we do greatly lack the normal means of grace, but if the Lord condescends to teach us he will expect more from us.
Pro 9:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.
ladybug wrote: For those interested, this is from Jonathan Edwards, 'signs of true revival' - http://www.sermonindex.net/modules/articles/index.php?view=article&aid=2586
I've read two signs so far thank you for the link
A friend of mine gave me the book 'Tokens for Children' it was a book about children during one of the plagues in New England it was an amazing account of God's work in the hearts of the very young up to a young adult of 19. What was amazing was how it put older Christians to stand amazed at the clear working of God in the hearts of such young children. Reading the testimonies of their parents and pastors, who looked upon the obviously a work of God. One of the youths was a nephew of Cotton Mather, if I recall. A deeply profound 19 year old.
GS and Mike Psalm 103 was most blessed to me when God heard my cries for my own sick child, a number of years ago now.
GS hope all is well, Mike praying for wisdom for parents and grandparents. James 1:2-5
Frank wrote: Is your point that it is okay for folks to use vows and oaths under certain conditions as long as they don't violate those oaths.
I put up the WCF Chap 22 also, with proof texts. Read the proof texts as they are given so you're looking at bite size portions. For an oath or vow to be binding there is Scriptural requirements. It is forswearing, to my understanding, to vow or take an oath that is not in agreement with Scripture. If one is asking the Lord Jesus Christ to be their second, as their Mediator - the only one qualified, like Joshua the type in Jos 24:15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD. Now remember he is a national representative and he says to the elders Jos 24:19-20 And Joshua said unto the people, Ye cannot serve the LORD: for he is an holy God; he is a jealous God; he will not forgive your transgressions nor your sins. If ye forsake the LORD, and serve strange gods, then he will turn and do you hurt, and consume you, after that he hath done you good. I began here.
pennned wrote: I'll point out that presbytarians consider baby baptism to be the new circumcision ... if one only sees legitimate gov in the church hierarchy (if that is indeed true, which I don't know)
Allie wrote: Hi Mourner, Israel was a theocracy and we are not.
Israel was a monarchy under the Davidic line when Solomon prayed at the dedication of the temple, it was no longer ruled by judges Samuel being the last. God rules over all, with or without man's consent; Jesus Christ is now exalted Mediator at His Father's and our Father, his God and our God's right hand when one is born again. I perceive we have a different understanding of history and a different eschatology. That us why we have differing understandings.
Jer 2:9-14 Wherefore I will yet plead with you, saith the LORD, and with your children's children will I plead. For pass over the isles of Chittim, and see; and send unto Kedar, and consider diligently, and see if there be such a thing. Hath a nation changed their gods, which are yet no gods? but my people have changed their glory for that which doth not profit. Be astonished, O ye heavens, at this, and be horribly afraid, be ye very desolate, saith the LORD. For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water. Is Israel a servant? is he a homeborn slave? why is he spoiled?
Tennessee wise wrote: Our power does not come from men but God. This is why the great Revivals came we did not run to the government we ran to God .. I would suggest every Christian should listen to Martyn Lloyd Jones series on revival and you can see how God works to restore the land.
Many years ago now I read his book on the subject. I was struck with what he said on this text; Gen 26:17 And Isaac departed thence, and pitched his tent in the valley of Gerar, and dwelt there. Gen 26:18 And Isaac digged again the wells of water, which they had digged in the days of Abraham his father; for the Philistines had stopped them after the death of Abraham: and he called their names after the names by which his father had called them.
Do you recall this in what you heard?
My cursor is jumping all over the place, it is very hard to write. Anyone know why that would be?
Allie wrote: I think ..most churches are not truly preaching the gospel...will not preach against the national sins and call to repentance..
Good morning Allie,
After reading a number of posts, the Scripture came to mind: 2Ch 7:14 "If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."
I have heard this text used in sermons a number of times in my life with the emphasis on seeking God in humility and prayer. But what of the subject 'if my people'? The context is a kingdom under God as a nation. Having come out of Ur of the Chaldees in Abram, whose father worshiped the moon god and most likely the other multiplicity of gods; God began with a family who became a nation that He brought up as his peculiar people. It was prayed by Solomon whose father king David began to establish the one true religion *instituted by Jehovah regarding His worship* as given to David as his prophet.
Because of national religious pluralism, you can make a sweeping statement about the ministry in general, but it should not be the case in a rightly ordered church.
About oaths and vows in Matthew and James as regards swearing - it is in the name of anyone or thing other than God for to forswear is to violate the terms of oaths and vows set down by Scripture. God is unchangeable and he states Lev 19:12 And ye shall not swear by my name falsely, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD. Isa_65:16 That he who blesseth himself in the earth shall bless himself in the God of truth; and he that sweareth in the earth shall swear by the God of truth; because the former troubles are forgotten, and because they are hid from mine eyes. Exo 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain
WCF Chapter 22 it is on Lawful Oaths and Vows. Consider what it says in the light of Scripture.
I am so much impressed with the brevity of time and the importance of the things that truly matter. When I say that I do not expect, related to unfulfilled prophesy to see the return of Christ in my life time yet related to our duration in time, life hastens a pace and there is much to do. We're not getting any younger and things are changing fast. If you are so inclined, listen to his series on Prophecy I just finished hearing Rev. 20 today.
@ Frank Good afternoon. You mentioned that vows were not for today; that would be related to the Third Commandment and how we worship God, the Fourth Commandment is related to when and I think you'd agree, not all professed Christian's agree on the particulars of what heart felt, imperfect keeping of these Commandments *in Christ's imputed righteousness* should look like.
My thoughts for commenting were on 1 Cor. 7 Paul's addressing a woman's vow that needed her father's approval to be binding, that's Paul's NT take in agreement with your quoted text from Numbers 30.
I believe this is the sermon I was referring to http://www.sermonaudio.com/playpopup.asp?SID=1218151234311 otherwise it was the one before it, but I think it was this one. You might like his 'Bossy Wives, Effeminate Men'. I listened to that with my eldest and it was hard for sinners to hear that know better.
The one you inquired about is not short but if you hear it out and want to give your thoughts, I'd appreciate it.