Observer wrote: ..did God change his mind? If so, can you provide the scriptures that tell us this?
Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed. Gen 32:24-30 And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day. And when he saw that he prevailed not against him, he touched the hollow of his thigh; and the hollow of Jacob's thigh was out of joint, as he wrestled with him. And he said, Let me go, for the day breaketh. And he said, I will not let thee go, except thou bless me. And he said unto him, What is thy name? And he said, Jacob. And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed. And Jacob asked him, and said,Tell me, I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there. And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved. Isa 44:5-6 One shall say, I am the LORD'S; and another shall call himself by the name of Jacob; and another shall subscribe with his hand unto the LORD, and surname himself by the name of Israel. Thus saith the LORD the King of I
Observer wrote: Where do we read that he purchased/gave himself in any manner for the nation of Israel?
Isa 52:13-15 Behold, my servant shall deal prudently, he shall be exalted and extolled, and be very high. As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men: So shall he sprinkle many nations; the kings shall shut their mouths at him: for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they consider.
Rom 11:28-36 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all. O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out! For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor? Or who hath first given to him, and it shall
Psalm 2:1-6 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: *the Lord shall have them in derision.* Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure. *Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion*.
Php 2:9-11 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus 'every knee should bow', of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; *And that every tongue 'should' confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.*
Romans 11:19-23 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off v.
Mat 3:8-12 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance: And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.
Gen 6:1-3a And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: ...Gen 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD
1Cor. 7:14 (for lack of space)... else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
Psa 119:17 GIMEL. Deal bountifully with thy servant, that I may live, and keep thy word. Psa 119:18 Open thou mine eyes, that I may behold wondrous things out of thy law. Psa 119:19 I am a stranger in the earth: hide not thy commandments from me. Psa 119:20 My soul breaketh for the longing that it hath unto thy judgments at all times. Psa 119:21 Thou hast rebuked the proud that are cursed, which do err from thy commandments. Psa 119:22 Remove from me reproach and contempt; for I have kept thy testimonies. Psa 119:23 Princes also did sit and speak against me: but thy servant did meditate in thy statutes. Psa 119:24 Thy testimonies also are my delight and my counsellors.
2Co 10:1-6 Now I Paul myself beseech you by the meekness and gentleness of Christ, who in presence am base among you, but being absent am bold toward you: But I beseech you, that I may not be bold when I am present with that confidence, wherewith I think to be bold against some, which think of us as if we walked according to the flesh. For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, *when your obedience is fulfilled.*
scot wrote: What we have to accept in Scotland is that Bureaucrats are superior people completely without flaw and in total charge of our lives. We poor uneducated peasants must accept the superior bureaucrats can create a better society in the next generation, than we parents ever could. Or: Quote;... (G. Orwell. 1984)
Not a psalm singer scot?
Better quote: see Psalm 10
In your quote from Orwell "; we are interested solely in power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently"
Better quote see Psalm 2; Matthew 28:18-20 God alone is pure power.
Take a look at Isa 4:4 and if you have a JFB Commentary see what is said and look up the Scripture.
I'll share a quote from Henry this morning on Lev.9:17" Note, Our accustomed worship morning and evening, alone and in our families, must not be omitted upon any pretence whatsoever, no, not when extraordinary services are to be performed; whatever is added, these must not be diminished." and Lev.9:23 "Note, God's manifestations of himself, of his glory and grace, are commonly given in answer to prayer. When Christ was praying the heavens were opened, Luk_3:21. The glory of God appeared, not while the sacrifices were in offering, but when the priests prayed (as 2Ch_5:
In Winthrop's thinking the word of God and the Lordship of Christ, the Ascended Mediator and King (Psalm 2) is that which gives the Magistrate his authority,
Mat 28:18-20 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, *All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.* Go ye therefore, and teach all *nations*, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: *Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you*: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
It is the Ministry's job to lift up the fallen standard when evil comes in like a flood and the Magistrates' to defend that standard by keeping evil at bay. That presupposes the standard is known because agreeable to the word of God.
The Mass. Bay Colony was neither ashamed of Jesus Christ nor the word of God. But that which followed the nation's independence from Britain, was her independence from Christ and His authority in Scripture, it is conspicuously absent (by silence) from her governing principals from that time forward.
Winthrop was aware of the consequence of leadership contrariwise as he stated in the link mentioned.
From William Guthrie's Sermon read this Lord's day. His text Isaiah 44:3 For I will pour water upon him that is thirsty, and floods upon the dry ground: I will pour my Spirit upon thy seed, and my blessing upon thine offspring:... "The Lord allows the pouring out of His Spirit,to answer and satisfy the soul that is almost made deaf with the challenges of conscience and threatenings of a broken law; and He will have *His people* to satisfy themselves with it as their portion.
Have been listening to a series on the 10 Commandments. This seemed very relevant to the present rabbit trail. Explains why this is a rabbit trail http://www.sermonaudio.com/playpopup.asp?SID=64141222302
If Cruz ought not to have taken over the pulpit (he should not have been allowed); The why is it any different to take up his action for discussion on the Lord's day? Why on the so called Holy Day, Ishtar, did sa limit news but not every Lord's Day is used to discuss the finished work of Christ and his exaltation but politics?
Related to the article and Cruz's half truth https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/winthrop.htm What Winthrop actually said. Did this nation continue with Winthrop's 1630 line of thought, in 1776?
I fear lest this discussion not qualify for Isaiah's promise preceptiv
Remember the sabbath implies that it was not a new ordinance, Genesis states God gave his example of rest to Adam's posterity at that time. Israel in Egypt had lost their distinctiveness as a family being so long among the Egyptians who were idolators. See Hebrews 4:1-11 v.4 For if Jesus (Joshua)had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. Hebrews states like creation it is a matter of faith
Dave, it is Scriptural to look to teachers, to endeavor to keep the unity of the body. Christ appointed teachers to that end. I went back and finished reading to the end of what I offered to you from Henry, this also was relevant to the topic of the 4th Commandment and the Divinity and authority of Christ the Lord As B. said Christ the reality had come. All the regulated and appointed holy days you speak of were fulfilled in Him. The time of transition from the shadow in Colossians 2:17 The Jews had been instructed in these shadows of things to come, but the body was of Christ. You asked if we are Jews or Gentiles. I've concluded from Scripture that Romans 2:28,29 is true. Rev.11:1,2 infers Gentiles can be Jews but Jews cannot be Gentiles regarding worship. John speaks here of the NT Church, the worship and those who practise it. See Ephes 2:11-22
Dave wrote: Well G'day mourner, please forgive my memory, did you move or inform us of a name change? Or do I have you mixedup with someone else? anyhow Lord bless,
I haven't posted for sometime. I use only one moniker and haven't changed my name? Move?
I have been studying the Christian sabbath in recent days and one morning in private worship I was reading John 5 and was taken by many aspects of the healing of the paralytic. I looked to see what Matthew Henry said on that portion of Scripture and was blessed by what he said on the whole of that miracle. I did think of you Dave when I read it. If you read Henry on John 5:1-16 I think you'd profit as I did.
I look at the news here from time to time and today presented opportunity to share what helped me.
Jh. 5:16 And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.
Matthew Henry: "Christ would thus witness against the tradition of the elders, which had stretched the law of the sabbath beyond its intention; and would likewise show that he was Lord of the sabbath, and had power to make what alterations he pleased about it, and to over-rule the law. Joshua, and the host of Israel, marched about Jericho on the sabbath day, when God commanded them, so did this man carry his bed, in obedience to a command. The case may be such that it may become a work of necessity, or mercy, to carry a bed on the sabbath day; but here it was more, it was a work of piety, being designed purely for the glory of God. Fourthly, He would hereby try the faith and obedience of his patient. By carrying his bed publicly, he exposed himself to the censure of the ecclesiastical court, and was liable, at least, to be scourged in the synagogue. Now, will he run the hazard of this, in obedience to Christ? Yes, he will. Those that have been healed by Christ's word should be ruled by his word, whatever it cost them."
Note in the article that in Britain's law all day off for Easter & christ mass, 6 hour work on the Christian sabbath.
Psalm 22 In the past, I've been instructed regarding exclusive psalmody from Psalm 22 by the God's word and Spirit. I found this teaching very edifying and instructive. So much so that I continued my meditation in Psalm 22 this morning. I'd encourage the reading of Matthew Henry's 5 points on verse Psalm 22 v.22-31 regarding *the satisfaction and triumph of Christ in his sufferings*: -
I found much encouragement in points 4&5
It was a wonderful way to begin the Lord's day and stir one's heart to render thanks unto the LORD; it is a comely thing and to thy name O thou most High due praise aloud to sing! Thy loving-kindness to show forth when shines the morning light and to declare thy faithfulness with pleasure every night. I can anticipate doing that as well. Thank you for these words of instruction.
on schedule This morning in private worship I had a number of thoughts and had my yearly physical in Exodus 15:26 thanks to Robert Murray M'Cheyne's Bible Read Through Schedule. It was after today's reading and meditation I noticed this 2/23/16 edition and listened. I agree.
In recent days beginning about 2/12/16 I have been much taken up with the consideration of the first table Commandments; their promises and threatenings. How can anyone claim to be a Christian if they do not take God at His word, and cast themselves in total dependence on Christ who is the fulfillment of the law. Who but Christ could propitiate God's wrath that was due us for original sin in Adam and the least violation of any of his commands? He is our justification by His imputed righteousness. A justification that will be evidenced by a filial fear of God as His adopted children (Mal.1:6a A son honoureth his father, and a servant his master: if then I be a father, where is mine honour? and if I be a master, where is my fear?) and an increasing conformity to Christ; even our imperfect sanctification, that is accepted in the Beloved. O for greater thankfulness and love to Christ for all He has done and will do for his people and for grace to walk worthy of such a Savior! Romans 8:9-14
The question stated another way: Should a Christian choose the lesser sinful course between two sinful courses?
From Samuel Wylie's 'Two Sons of Oil'
â...4. All this delegated, or derived power, should be exercised to God's glory, and regulated by his law. 1st Cor. x. 7: "Whether, therefore, ye eat or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God." To effect this end, all our powers should be directed, and of this, his law is the unerring rule. By this, therefore, all rational beings are indispensably bound. God has given them no right to do what it prohibits. To suppose men to possess any such right, is wicked and blasphemous. This would be the same as to suppose God to say to them, I, as the Supreme Legislator, give you my law. To the least breach of it, I annex the penalty of eternal damnation; yet I give you a right to violate this, my law, and to wage war with your God, and direct your artillery against the Sovereign of the Universe!!! The Scriptures inform us otherwise. Deut. xii. 32: "What thing soever I command you, observe to do it; thou shalt not add to it, nor diminish from it." Â
âThe fourth commandment, whose obligation is perpetual, is directed to every relation. Every private individual must observe the law of God; but heads of families, and other superiors, must not only observe it themselves, but make those under their authority do so likewise, as far as their influence can extend, and also punish obstinate violators thereof. "I know," says God, "that Abraham will command his children and household after him." So the magistrate must provide, that the Sabbath be sanctified in all his gates; that is, as far as his civil authority extends. Yea, we find even heathen kings ratifying the laws of the Most High God, Ezra vii. 23. The decree of Artaxerxes, is, "Whatsoever is commanded by the God of Heaven, let it be done for the house of the God of Heaven." -Samuel Wylie
From Gillespies's Miscellaneous Questions â..when the church of Christ sinketh in a state, let not that state think to swim. Religion and righteousness flourish and fade, stand or fall together. They who are false to God will never prove faithful to men."
M. Henry on Gen. 14:17-20 "He was king of Salem and priest of the most high God; and other glorious things are said of him, Heb_7:1, etc. 1. The rabbin, and most of our rabbinical writers, conclude that Melchizedek was Shem the son of Noah, who was king and priest to those that descended from him, according to the patriarchal model. But this is not at all probable; for why should his name be changed? And how came he to settle in Canaan? 2. Many Christian writers have thought that this was an appearance of the Son of God himself, our Lord Jesus, known to Abram, at this time, by this name, as afterwards, Hagar called him by another name, Gen_16:13. He appeared to him as a righteous king, owning a righteous cause, and giving peace. It is difficult to imagine that any mere man should be said to be without father, without mother, and without descent, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, Heb_7:3. It is witnessed of Melchizedek that he liveth, and that he abideth a priest continually (Gen_14:3, Gen_14:8); nay (Gen_14:13, Gen_14:14), the apostle makes him of whom these things are spoken to be our Lord who sprang out of Judah. It is likewise difficult to think that any mere man should, at this time, be greater than Abram in the things of God,...
Fisher: "Q. 19. Why was Christ vested with this threefold office? A. The nature of our salvation required that it should be revealed by him as a Prophet; purchased by him as a Priest; and applied by him as a King.
Q. 20. Did ever ALL these offices center in any ONE person except Christ alone? A. No; for, in order to set forth the vast importance of these offices, as united in the person of Christ, none of those who were typical of him under the Old Testament were ever clothed with all the three: this honour was reserved for himself, as his peculiar dignity and prerogative; John 14:6 -- "I am the way, and the truth, and the life;" that is, the WAY in my death, as a Priest; the TRUTH in my word, as a Prophet; and the LIFE in my Spirit, as a King.
Q. 21. In what states does Christ execute all these offices? A. Both in his estate of humiliation on earth, and in his state of exaltation in heaven.
Q. 22. What do you understand by Christ's executing of his offices? A. His doing or fulfilling what was incumbent upon him, in virtue of each of these offices, Matt. 3:15."
role playing wrote: Then the question is when he began His priestly role, and if it had ANY correlation with the Levitical priesthood.
Q. 10. Was he ordained or appointed to these offices? A. Yes, from all eternity; 1 Pet. 1:20 -- "Who, verily, was foreordained before the foundation of the world."
Q. 11. What were the necessary consequences of this eternal designation? A. His mission and call.
Q. 12. In what consisted his mission? A. In his being promised, Isa. 7:14, and typified under the Old Testament, John 3:14; and in his being actually sent, in the fullness of time, to assume our nature, and finish the work which was given him to do, Gal. 4:4, 5.
Q. 13. Was he formally called to his mediatory office? A. Yes; he did not take this honour unto himself, but was called of God, as was Aaron, Heb. 5. 4, 5.
Q. 14. Of what parts did his call consist? A. Of his unction and inauguration.
Q. 15. What do you understand by his unction? A. The consecration of him to all his mediatory offices, John 10:36; and the giving of the Spirit, with all his gifts and graces, without measure to him, that he might be fully furnished for the execution of these offices, John 3:34.