"By contrast, Scripture speaks of â€śknowingâ€ť God as the spiritual personâ€™s ideal: namely, the fullness of a faith-relationship that brings salvation and eternal life and generates love, hope, obedience, and joy. (See, for example, Exod. 33:13; Jer. 31:34; Heb. 8:8-12; Dan. 11:32; John 17:3; Gal. 4:8-9; Eph. 1:17-19; 3:19; Phil. 3:8-11; 2 Tim. 1:12.) The dimensions of this knowledge are intellectual (knowing the truth about God: Deut. 7:9; Ps. 100:3); volitional (trusting, obeying, and worshiping God in terms of that truth); and moral (practicing justice and love: Jer. 22:16; 1 John 4:7-8). Faith-knowledge focuses on God incarnate, the man Christ Jesus, the mediator between God and us sinners, through whom we come to know his Father as our Father (John 14:6). Faith seeks to know Christ and his power specifically (Phil. 3:8-14). Faithâ€™s knowledge is the fruit of regeneration, the bestowal of a new heart (Jer. 24:7; 1 John 5:20), and of illumination by the Spirit (2 Cor. 4:6; Eph. 1:17). The knowledge-relationship is reciprocal, implying covenantal affection on both sides: we know God as ours because he knows us as his (John 10:14; Gal. 4:9; 2 Tim. 2:19)." (J.I.Packer)
Jim Lincoln wrote: Loader I will refer you to the part of definition of "Faith" that I put up in my first message, again. But atheists should come closer to the idea of God than what I thing you suggested:
Faith is the gift of God. God does not provide this gift to the reprobate, unsaved, atheist, roman catholic or the free willer. Thus they can think what they will but are beyond the capability to 'prove' the existence of God.
ps: Romans 1:20f is about their guilt not about their "faith."
""And while God exists in the understanding of the concept, we could conceive of him as greater if he existed in reality. Therefore, he must exist.""
This atheist comes close to the truth - As close as God allows atheists to come in their complete ignorance of the truth. I wonder if he is enjoying hell? In the spiritual realm one of the most powerful 'hells' for the unbelievers will be the realisation that God exists.
"Psalm 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good."
"Oak Hill in north London, where Archbishop Rowan Williams, the thoughtful, moderate head of the church, has often been denounced as a dangerous backslider."
Well done Oak Hill!
Rowan Williams has announced, todays news, that he is stepping down from the Job as Archbishop of Canterbury. So bye bye Rowan.
As for the "evangelicals" in the C of E again we must ask how many people using the term really adhere to its true meaning? The C of E has been part of the problem in the UK and other nations as far as unBiblical practices are concerned. Whether a group within its walls can "save" them from further doctrinal decline and bring them back to sound Biblical doctrine remains to be seen.
At least Jim Lincoln can be happy he just loves Liberal Anglicans such as the ones who helped write his Bible.