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Eve was a sinner also. She sinned first. The reason Adam's sin is mentioned is because he was the head of all people. Eve was not, but when it comes to having a nature that desires sin, Jesus would have got that through Mary. Difference being:

For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin.

Hebrews 4:15


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So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Revelation 12:9

I guess he never read this verse before.


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The SPLC is in fact a hate group which goes around trying to smear Christians.

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Mike wrote:
The unfortunate truth is, the winners of wars get to rewrite its actual history. The winners portray themselves as morally upright, and the enemy as degenerates. Then ignorance has its way. The removal of flags and monuments in the South is good example of this.
Sometimes the side who wins just records what happened accurately! The fight was over state rights, whether the states could keep slavery. That's the facts. I think the "winner" was a little to generous with it's portrait of the Confederates. For one, a lot of the leaders and generals weren't killed for treason. These were men who openly went to war with the United States and should have been punished.

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The sin of slavery is nothing to celebrate.

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John UK...

I thought laughing out loud was a good thing. I keep telling everyone I won't do it here anymore. You a bunch of frozen chosen!

ladybug...

That will show Connor7!

Anyways, you are resorting to quoting RCC doctrinal statements to get me to believe you?! I believe what I believe because of the Bible. There are examples of people making choices and believing on Jesus. I would turn it around on you and say there are nooo examples of God casting a spell on people in order to make them unconsciously believe, is there?


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John UK...

The text I showed you says:

Romans 9:4 KJV
(4) Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth...the promises;

So that is what I will believe, yes.

Not all descendants of Abraham are Israel. If Israel was a spiritual Israel of all believers, then why in the world would Paul want to be accursed instead than them?! L...ugh. I promised! He even says, according to my flesh!

For I could wish that I myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my countrymen according to the flesh,
Romans 9:3

In verse 8, Paul is contrasting Ishmael as a child of works and Isaac as a child of promise. Believers are not saved by works but as a result of God's promise. These things are symbolic.

which things are symbolic. For these are the two covenants: the one from Mount Sinai which gives birth to bondage, which is Hagar‚ÄĒ
Galatians 4:24


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Connor7...

Calvinist teach that God only loves the elect, whether they are saved or not yet, from all eternity. Not a general love that He may have for those He hates, but a more intimate love which is reserved for and limited to His elect. You should know I'm correct, but instead you play games going back and forth between two types of love, in order to pretend your belief system does not teach that God's love is limited. You asked for documentation and I gave it to you just for you to pretend it is out of context.

Ladybug was holding up the Council of Trent as some big whoop de doo to be followed. I'll stick with Scripture!


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SteveR...

Sorry, I didn't know they didn't allow for laughter. I will stop.


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MS...

Learner? That's because I already know your philosophy better than you do.

Christopher000...

Sorry, I will stop expressing bewilderment at their comments.


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ladybug...

You say that like you don't realize Augustine (You know, the Catholic saint) and Luther were Catholic! You owe so much of your tradition to the Catholic Church. Another thing, that beloved Council of Trent of yours wouldn't even have allowed you to speak about Scripture biblically because your just a girl. And you want me to listen to them?! Lol.

I read the Bible and don't try to add anything where it doesn't belong. For instance, John 3:16:

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

Now I read, God loves the world and think, that's great! Jesus was sent so that all of us can be saved, that's good news! If we only believe on Him. Okay, it all makes sense. Then a Calvinist will come along and say, God does not love the world and I think, but doesn't it say so right there? And they will say Jesus only came for some random elect people only and I'm thinking, doesn't it say God gave His Son for the world? And they will say, you can't really believe on Him, God can only make you believe. I'm looking at what God says, "that whoever believes on Him will not perish but have everlasting life", shaking my head thinking where do they come up with this stuff?! Lol.


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ladybug...

I will not read into text of Scripture so that I can be a Calvinist too. Sorry! I love God to much for that. Calvinism has nothing to do with being born again, Jesus does! Don't you find it funny that most of the philosophical terms of Calvinism aren't found in Scripture? No, total depravity, unconditional election, limited atonement, irresistible Grace, etc? Even when they do use terms found in scripture like "elect", "world", and "love" they twist them to mean something different.


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ladybug...

You aren't good with biblical theology, so that makes me not born again? Lol.

John UK...

I was in chapter 9 also when I told you about the promises to Israel and how Gentiles can be grafted in to those, but you got confused and started talking about the promise of Isaac. Also, believers are symbolically children of promise like Isaac because they are free from the Law and unbelievers are of the flesh under bondage to the law. If you look at Isaac and Ishmael as two covenants, but in real life, Isaac was the child of promise.


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Connor7...

Do they still have the rule that you aren't supposed to post back to back within a 2 hour period? If so sorry.

"When we say God is sovereign in the exercise of His love, we mean He loves whom He chooses. God does not love everybody." (The Sovereignty of God, 3rd ed., pg 17)

‚ÄúIf some people are not elected unto salvation then it would seem that God is not all that loving toward them. For them it seems that it would have been more loving of God not to have allowed them to be born.‚ÄĚ (Chosen by God, p.32)

Just a couple of examples from Calvinist who believe God's love is limited to the elect only. Makes one wonder how God is love if He doesn't love everyone. He certainly wouldn't be love for those predestined to Hell! Those quotes come from Arthur W. Pink and R.C. Sproul. Just to document the authors.


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Connor7...

Have you ever heard of T.U.L.I.P? What do you think the "L" stands for? God's limited love for a few elect.

Please don't try to and make me read a Calvinist book for documentation!

Dave Hunt writes: ‚Äú‚Ķthe ultimate aim of Calvinism‚Ķis to prove that God does not love everyone, is not merciful to all, and is pleased to damn billions. If that is the God of the Bible, Calvinism is true. If that is not the God of the Bible, who ‚Äėis love‚Äô (1 John 4:8), Calvinism is false.‚ÄĚ (Debating Calvinism, p.21)


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John UK wrote:
1) Yes, the promise of God was:

2) Abram tried to preempt God's promise by having Sarai's handmaid Hagar. And he had Ishmael by her.
But Isaac was a child of promise, namely elect, chosen.
Jacob also was elect, chosen.

1) I was talking about God's promises to Israel. Plural, as in many promises that He has made to the descendants of Abraham.

2) Correct! Abraham tried to achieve the promise of God through works. It demonstrates that we can't be saved by works!

"And then we have:

Romans 9:8 KJV
(8) That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

3) "Being a Jew does not make one a child of God."

3) I wonder if God knows that?! Lol. You miss the point. The children of the flesh (works) are descendants of Ishmael. The children of the promise (Isaac) are counted as the seed.

4) "And being a Jew does not mean God has promises for you."

4) ...Israelites, to whom pertain the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the service of God, and the promises;
Romans 9:4


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John UK...

"Now what you have to do, John, is work out what it was Paul said, that would cause an ignorant man to accuse God of unrighteousness. If you can do that, you will be half way to solving the riddle. At present, you are in the camp that accuses God, because of your freewill beliefs. Already it has been shown that the twins had a role given to them by God, irrespective of whether they had done evil or good, because it was all down to the electing purposes of God, in accordance with HIS will. God loved Jacob not Esau."

Paul just explained that Jews are not saved by the works of Abraham because if that were the case, Ishmael and his descendants would all be saved also, but Isaac was the child of promise. He also explained salvation wasn't by birthright because Esau was born first. The Jews believed otherwise, therefore they thought it made God seem like He didn't fulfill His promises.


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Dave from Oz...

The people on Pentecost believed because of the preaching of the gospel, which pierced their consciences. You act as if all it takes to be saved is conviction and sinful people will automatically do the right thing and become believers! Where does the Bible ever state that God makes people unconsciously faithful by some supernatural act against their wills?


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Dave from Oz...

But we are bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God from the beginning chose you for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth,
II Thessalonians 2:13

It's not that salvation includes sanctification by the Spirit and faith, but when a person believed, God then sanctified them by the Holy Spirit which results in their salvation.

"There is not one single scripture that teaches unsaved man can or wills to choose God as his personal Lord and Saviour in salvation!"

Now when they heard this, they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, ‚ÄúMen and brethren, what shall we do?‚ÄĚ
Acts 2:37


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John UK...

I think it could be argued that there are promises given to Israel that are different than those promises to Gentiles and that those promises to believers are to the Jew first and then the Gentiles.

For one thing, look at Romans 9:

who are Israelites, to whom pertain the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the service of God, and the promises; of whom are the fathers and from whom, according to the flesh, Christ came, who is over all, the eternally blessed God. Amen.
Romans 9:4‭-‬5

All of God's promises are to them and Gentiles can be grafted in by faith. The reason salvation has come to Gentiles is in order to provoke Israel to jealousy.

Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers. For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.
Romans 11:28‭-‬29

God has not revoked His promises to Israel! Paul said that in response to His countrymen, the Jews, and not in regards to Christians.

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