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Kev wrote:
1. There you go mixing God's command and man's responsibility with the sovereign work of God.

2. "But that he loved US" and "propitiation for OUR sins".

3. Maybe if you took off your Arminian glasses you would listen to what scripture actually teaches. Even common English proves my point.

Pray J4 and be open to Hod's Word!

1) When God commands it, isn't it people's responsibility to obey?

2) Did you forget what you were arguing about? You said:

Proverbs 8:17
17 I love those who love me,
And those who seek me diligently will find me.

Conditional:"I love those who love me"

So I simply pointed out that we love Him because He first loved us. There's nothing to argue. I was trying to show you the error of your ways, but after 6 full months of being a Calvinist, I see you are now an expert and are above correction!

Heck, you act as if you never said that and are correcting me now by saying God loved us first, lol.

3) I'm not a Calvinist or Arminian. I take a literal interpretation of scripture which doesn't teach either philosophy.


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James Thomas wrote:
1)Philippians 1:29 (KJV)
29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer

2) 1 Timothy 1:13 (KJV)
13 Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.

1) The Philippians were given the opportunity to suffer for Christ. It doesn't show that Paul was forced to believe in God.

2) You bring up a good point. That's why I said "think". The only thing I would say is, it is possible Paul was a blasphemer in Christ as a true believer in God, not knowing He was the true Saviour yet. Why did Paul have such zeal for Judaism? He may have really believed in God. If He was an unbeliever in God before Jesus revealed Himself to Paul, he still didn't become a follower until later.

And Ananias went his way and entered the house; and laying his hands on him he said, “Brother Saul, the Lord Jesus, who appeared to you on the road as you came, has sent me that you may receive your sight and be filled with the Holy Spirit.” Immediately there fell from his eyes something like scales, and he received his sight at once; and he arose and was baptized.
Acts 9:17‭-‬18 NKJV


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John UK wrote:
1) What was God doing when he flooded the earth and killed everyone except eight souls?
2) Do you regard him as vindictive? Or do you regard him as just?
3) Why did he do it?
4) If God so loved them, how on earth could he do such a thing? How awful!!
1) Judging the world.
2) He was just to do so.
3) Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. So the Lord said, “I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them.”
Genesis 6:5‭-‬7 NKJV
4) He wouldn't allow the wickedness to continue. It grieved God.

I'm not Arminian, but if that's what they teach it is probably because Hyper-Calvinism and Calvinism are pretty much the same thing. It would be like calling Islamic extremism Islamic. Same difference.


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Kev wrote:
1) Hosea 14:4
4 “I will heal their backsliding,
I will love them freely,
For My anger has turned away from him.
I WILL love them. If you say he loves all why use will?
Proverbs 8:17
2) 17 I love those who love me,
And those who seek me diligently will find me.
Conditional:"I love those who love me"
The one true God is not the way Calvinist imagine. Calvinist imagine God to be hateful to most the world. Not that they know what the world is anyways!

Faith isn't a work of the law. When anyone believes, they are doing what is expected of them. It isn't anything special or worthy of merit.

1) O Israel, return to the Lord your God, For you have stumbled because of your iniquity; Take words with you, And return to the Lord. Say to Him, “Take away all iniquity; Receive us graciously, For we will offer the sacrifices of our lips.
Hosea 14:1‭-‬2 NKJV

They were Israelites who stumbled because of iniquity and were to return to the Lord, asking to have their sins forgiven. When we sin, it affects how God may bless us. When we repent, He will more freely display His love for us.

2) In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
I John 4:10


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Rodney K. wrote:
Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? (Romans 9:19)
Read on. Paul answers your question.
And yes, Paul is teaching Sovereign election - else why would he feel the need to answer these questions. If he is not teaching about unconditional election, the questions make no sense.
I get that God does what He wants, but He says He will make people vessels of honor if they obey. The reason Israel became a vessel of dishonor is because they did not believe. They will once again become a vessel of honor once they believe. Is God unfair to grant the Gentiles repentance? He can do what He wants! However, we know He is not through with Israel and all Israel will one day believe.

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Many of you are acting like God randomly makes people vessels for honor and vessels for dishonor. As if He just so happened to make you a vessel of honor and who cares about anyone else because you got yours! Yes, you will say how much you care for unbelievers, but in the end your God doesn't care for them and in fact hates them. Calvinism really attracts the narcissist! You no doubt thank God you are not like the rest of us sinners.

Paul was made a vessel of honor because he worked as to earn the prize and not be disqualified. There is no evidence that Paul did not believe God of his own ability. If Paul disobeyed, he wouldn't have been the vessel of honor that he was.

Then last of all He was seen by me also, as by one born out of due time.
I Corinthians 15:8 NKJV

I think Paul was already a believer in God who had not yet heard the truth of the gospel. Once Jesus revealed Himself to Paul, Paul became a Christian. Becoming a vessel of honor is different than becoming a believer.

Romans 9 doesn't expound on Jer 18 other than bringing it down to a personal level. The same still applies. If one obeys, they will become a vessel of honor. If they are a vessel of honor and sins, then God will make you a vessel of dishonor.


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Rodney K. wrote:
Romans: (21) Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? (22) What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: (23) And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
So another one who didn't bother reading the text! Take your Calvinist glasses off, they are blinding you from understanding the text. When you qoute Romans 9:21 about the Potter, Paul is qouting from Jeremiah 18! Go look at what it says if you want to understand his point. God will change the vessel on the wheel and make into another vessel if it becomes marred to Him. While the clay is still wet and not set yet, the Potter can change what He will make of the vessel. Once it is set and dried, it is what it is. Those of us not dead yet can be used as a vessel of honor if we cleanse ourselves of sinful lust. If the Potter doesn’t make us into a vessel of honor, we cannot ask why? Because God knows our faithfulness or lack there of.

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ladybug wrote:
you ask 'but why does He make some a vessel of gold and silver while making others vessels wood and clay?' the verses you gave certainly do not answer your question.
You obviously didn't read them then!

Therefore if anyone cleanses himself from the latter, he will be a vessel for honor, sanctified and useful for the Master, prepared for every good work.
II Timothy 2:21 NKJV

It says if anyone cleanses themself of sin, they will be a vessel for honor, set apart and useful for the Master! So cleanse yourself of sinful behavior and be made useful for God.

The instant I speak concerning a nation and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, to pull down, and to destroy it, if that nation against whom I have spoken turns from its evil, I will relent of the disaster that I thought to bring upon it. And the instant I speak concerning a nation and concerning a kingdom, to build and to plant it, if it does evil in My sight so that it does not obey My voice, then I will relent concerning the good with which I said I would benefit it.
Jeremiah 18:6‭-‬10 NKJV

If the vessel of dishonor turns from its evil, God will make it a vessel of honor. Look at pastors who have fallen from grace! Vessels of honor who became vessels of dishonor.


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ladybug wrote:
Who makes one a 'vessel of honour' ?
God does, but why does He make some a vessel of gold and silver while making others vessels wood and clay?

Therefore if anyone cleanses himself from the latter, he will be a vessel for honor, sanctified and useful for the Master, prepared for every good work.
II Timothy 2:21 NKJV

“O house of Israel, can I not do with you as this potter?” says the Lord . “Look, as the clay is in the potter’s hand, so are you in My hand, O house of Israel! The instant I speak concerning a nation and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, to pull down, and to destroy it, if that nation against whom I have spoken turns from its evil, I will relent of the disaster that I thought to bring upon it. And the instant I speak concerning a nation and concerning a kingdom, to build and to plant it, if it does evil in My sight so that it does not obey My voice, then I will relent concerning the good with which I said I would benefit it.
Jeremiah 18:6‭-‬10 NKJV


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Rodney K. wrote:
Our worth is determined not by what we do, but by the price which was paid for us. It is not determined by who we are, but by Whose we are. Do the saved perform good works? Sure! But as a product of salvation, not as a means of salvation.
I never said works are a means of salvation. Our faith is. The vessels of gold and silver and wood and clay are all in the great house. Which vessel would you rather be?

Therefore if anyone cleanses himself from the latter, he will be a vessel for honor, sanctified and useful for the Master, prepared for every good work.
II Timothy 2:21 NKJV


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Rodney K. And Lurker...

What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of God. You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.
James 2:14‭, ‬17‭-‬17‭, ‬21‭-‬24 NKJV

We perfect our faith by works.

Now he who plants and he who waters are one, and each one will receive his own reward according to his own labor. If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward. If anyone’s work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.
I Corinthians 3:8‭, ‬14‭-‬15 NKJV

If you want to be a vessel of honor, you must make yourself worthy. Some people don't work and expect to be useful to God.


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Kev wrote:
J4 Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor?
But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and silver, but also of wood and clay, some for honor and some for dishonor. Therefore if anyone cleanses himself from the latter, he will be a vessel for honor, sanctified and useful for the Master, prepared for every good work.
II Timothy 2:20‭-‬21 NKJV

Look at what the verse says. If anyone cleanses himself from the latter, he will be a vessel for honor, sanctified and useful for the Master, prepared for every good work. We must make ourselves worthy to be used for honor. If we live, as Christians, in disobedience we cannot expect to be a vessel for honor. My pastor today compared it to using the good china for guest, as opposed to paper plates and plastic spoons. Some things are used for special occasions. Some Christians will hardly ever be used for honor because of the way they are living their lives. From verse 3-7, we should be like the focused soldier, athlete who doesn't disqualify themself, and the hard working farmer.


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But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and silver, but also of wood and clay, some for honor and some for dishonor. Therefore if anyone cleanses himself from the latter, he will be a vessel for honor, sanctified and useful for the Master, prepared for every good work.
II Timothy 2:20‭-‬21 NKJV

This is what my pastor preached on today. I thought it was interesting. The vessels all come out of the same house. Some are for honor and some for dishonor depending on their faith.


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Jim Lincoln wrote:
J4J and Ladybug:
Need verses
excerpt from, Biblical Evidences for a Pretribulational Rapture
I hope that will satisfy!
My problem is that 1 Thes 4:16 sounds like the Ressurection. There is also no explanation as to what the first Ressurection is in Revelation 20. If a Ressurection happens before that one, then it couldn't be the first. Christ is the firstfruit of many brethren, but then everyone else in Christ gets ressurected at the first Ressurection which is after the tribulation in Revelation 20:4-5.

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Jim Lincoln wrote:
From the excellent article, Exposing Hidden Anti-Semitism... referred to another excellent article, which I haven't referred to in years in years if I've referred to it at all on SermonAudio, so look at the following:
excerpt from The Differences: Church/Israel
I have a booklet that Martin Luther wrote called the Jews and their Lies which is filled with anti-semantic rants.

I read that link about the rapture, but I still don't get how there could be a rapture where everyone who is saved becomes resurrected before the first Ressurection.

But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.
Revelation 20:5‭-‬6 NKJV


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Kev...

Let the wicked forsake his way, And the unrighteous man his thoughts; Let him return to the Lord , And He will have mercy on him; And to our God, For He will abundantly pardon.
Isaiah 55:7 NKJV

but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.
Exodus 20:6 NKJV

“Then it shall come to pass, because you listen to these judgments, and keep and do them, that the Lord your God will keep with you the covenant and the mercy which He swore to your fathers.
Deuteronomy 7:12 NKJV

For some reason you have it in your mind that God's mercy is irrational. That He just happens to have mercy on some for no reason. It is clear His mercy is to those who love Him, repent, and obey Him.


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Funny how the BBC never worried that opposing God's law was Christianphobic.

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Kev wrote:
Romans 8:29
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

You say he conforms you to Christ upon your choice, how is that possible if he pretermined it?

2 Corinthians 5:19
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
If he reconciled all non believers none would go to hell!
world all non believers?

Who are the us? Us all who were ungodly and still sinners.

Romans 8:29 is talking about those who now love Him.

And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose.
Romans 8:28

It's those who love Him who are predestined to be conformed to the image of God's Son. Believers have not yet been comformed to His image. Christ is the firstfruit of many brethren. One day all believers will be ressurected with a body like Christ. We will be in His image.

In 2 Cor. 5:19, God is not imputing their sins against them. Christians have been forgiven their sins, these people still have them. The world has been granted repentance.


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Ladybug...

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
Romans 5:6‭-‬8 NKJV

Jim Lincoln...

And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Revelation 20:4‭-‬5 NKJV

The first Ressurection happens at the end of the Tribulation.


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Mike...

Good points!

John UK...

I haven't entered into God's rest.

For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day. There remains therefore a rest for the people of God.
Hebrews 4:8‭-‬9 NKJV

Then I heard a voice from heaven saying to me, “Write: ‘Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.’ ” “Yes,” says the Spirit, “that they may rest from their labors, and their works follow them.”
Revelation 14:13 NKJV

and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels,
II Thessalonians 1:7 NKJV

It says we will enter His rest when the Lord comes back.

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