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Bequest wrote: What happens when your flavor of sola Scriptura becomes a baseless tradition?
Don't be silly. With God that cannot happen in the elect.
The Elect; John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Clearly Satan and sin are using a different strategy during these modern times in the spiritual battle between good and evil. Homosexual practice is obviously a sin, indeed God Himself singles it out in the OT Book of Leviticus to identify it as an abomination.
Satan is trying to cleanse the sin or even sanctify it to make it more acceptable in the nations. thereby givine sin itself a more acceptable face. Today in the western nations sin is seen as less of a problem for people who don't readily identify themselves as sinners.
Governments and politicians are blinded by Satan and dead in sin therefore they cannot see the evil which is at work in themselves or in society. Votes count more to these egotistical covetous reprobates, than moral standards. Thus they change the laws the morals and the meaning of words to accomplish their satanic iniquitous aims.
In the churches Satan is doing another subtle work which first began by shipping as many Liberals into the pulpits and pews as he could. Having done this the removal of Scripture was his next plan, with Liberals that was easily accomplished. Their policy appears to be ditch the Bible keep the sin.
But sin manifests itself in many many ways in mankind. EG: Idolatry can corrupt church as can be seen in the RCC.
Mike wrote: So the 400 years of use of the KJV makes it automatically of God to the exclusion of anything else, because, well, 400 years is such a long time, don't you know
"makes it automatically of God" No!
But having studied the version debate using various authors and their polemics I can see the reason for ejecting modern versions. Comparing the 16th/17th century with the 20th century I see the apostate state of the modern church and the greater doctrinal and event powerful, eg Reformation, which contributes to a more faithful perception of choice towards truth production in the 16/17th century.
When I first became Christian I automatically went for the modern version since it seemed logical to do so. Then I studied Greek at theological college and noticed the errors and omissions in the NIV compared with the Greek text. Thought about it and looked, studied for a more accurate translation. The KJV is more accurate, more doctrinally accurate, more plenary accurate and since this is HOW GOD TRANSLATED THE GREEK INTO ENGLISH, then I picked the most reliable version, the KJV. I also favour the TR. As for 'faith' in all of this I believe God led me to the best translation of His Holy Word and Law. Praise be to God. Amen!
Lurker wrote: John Wycliff's manuscript bibles, William Tyndale's NT, John Rogers Bible, Miles Coverdale's Bible, the Great Bible, The Geneva Bible, The Bishop's Bible, The Douay Rheims Bible..... all before 1611, were what? Something other than God's word in English?
None of these were used to the extent which God used the King James Version over these centuries.
Remember how God describes all of us ...... "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:" Romans 3:10.
So lets honour God not men!!
The point made below is the comparison between the KJV and the modern versions.
Frank wrote: If He could perfectly preserve it in 1611, then He can also perfectly preserve it in 2012.
Frank. "If" - You doubting God?
Since God brought HIS Word into english in 1611 perfectly preserved....
Since that 1611 version is DIFFERENT from the modern versions....
Then stick to the Word of God King James Version.
Especially since there are the two Anglican Liberal Roman Catholic philosophy sympathising heretics Westcott and Hort stuck between the Word of God recorded in 1611 - and the myriad doctrinally deficient modern versions.