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Christ is the Rock, He will build who's church? HIS church, that is what the text says. If he were referring to Peter, He would have said, You are Peter, and on YOU I will build my church. Peter is NOT the foundation of the church, Christ is.
Before we go deeper into this, address the pope issue FIRST. You keep going down rabbit trails to avoid addressing questions. Enough.

Peter was not a pope, read 1 Peter 5:1 { The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed} he was an elder, Gr. sympresbyteros- meaning 'title of leadership in the church', like pastor, preacher. Where is the office of pope found and mandated in the Bible?

Remember, pope means 'father' {which Peter does not claim to be, because he knows the command found in Matthew 23:9} which takes us back to Mat. 23:9, do not call anyone on earth your father...Why does your church disregard the word of God for the sake of tradition? What did Jesus mean when He commanded that we call NO ONE on earth father? Another point, Peter was married, how could he be a pope if he was married?


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You do not understand the biblical definition of 'church', ekklesia which means called out ones from all walks of life and all parts of the world. It is NOT a denomination, you associate church with buildings and denominations. The true church of Jesus Christ is not bound by denominations or buildings, I am the church, anyone born from above is the church of Jesus Christ.

NO MORE RABBIT TRAILS!! Lets try again...

Peter was not a pope, read 1 Peter 5:1 { The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed} he was an elder, Gr. sympresbyteros- meaning 'title of leadership in the church', like pastor, preacher. Where is the office of pope found and mandated in the Bible?

Remember, pope means 'father' {which Peter does not claim to be, because he knows the command found in Matthew 23:9} which takes us back to Mat. 23:9, do not call anyone on earth your father...Why does your church disregard the word of God for the sake of tradition? What did Jesus mean when He commanded that we call NO ONE on earth father? Another point, Peter was married, how could he be a pope if he was married?

And please, use the word of God to back your words, or don't bother responding.


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Lets try this again...

Peter was not a pope, read 1 Peter 5:1 { The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed} he was an elder, Gr. sympresbyteros- meaning 'title of leadership in the church', like pastor, preacher. Where is the office of pope found and mandated in the Bible?

Remember, pope means 'father' {which Peter does not claim to be, because he knows the command found in Matthew 23:9} which takes us back to Mat. 23:9, do not call anyone on earth your father...Why does your church disregard the word of God for the sake of tradition? What did Jesus mean when He commanded that we call NO ONE on earth father? Another point, Peter was married, how could he be a pope if he was married?

And please, use the word of God to back your words, or don't bother responding.


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Again, prove this statement by you -The Catholic (Christian) Church started circa A.D. 33 {WHERE DID YOU GET THIS DATE? although i think i know...}from Jesus to Peter and so on until Pope Benedict XVI. It naturally adopted the adjective "Roman" since Popes have (mostly) found their chair located in Rome at the Vatican.

Peter was not a pope, read 1 Peter 5:1, he was an elder. Where is the office of pope found and mandated in the Bible?

Remember, pope means 'father' which takes us back to Mat. 23:9, do not call anyone on earth your father...Why does your church disregard the word of God for the sake of tradition? What did Jesus mean when He commanded that we call NO ONE on earth father?

And please, use the word of God to back your words, or don't bother responding.


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continued from previous post...

270. Eusebius, bishop at Caesarea, called the Father of ecclesiastical history, gives an account of the persecution of Emperor Diocletian whose edict required that all churches be destroyed and the Scriptures burned. He lists all the books of the New Testament. He was commissioned by Constantine to have transcribed fifty copies of the Bible for use of the churches of Constantinople.
185-254. Origen, born at Alexandria, names all the books of both the Old and New Testaments.
165-220. Clement, of Alexandria, names all the books of the New Testament except Philemon, James, 2 Peter and 3 John. In addition we are told by Eusebius, who had the works of Clement, that he gave explanations and quotations from all the canonical books.
160-240. Turtullian, contemporary of Origen and Clement, mentions all the New Testament books except 2 Peter, James and 2 John.
135-200. Irenaeus, quoted from all New Testament books except Philemon, Jude, James and 3 John.
100-147. Justin Martyr, mentions the Gospels as being four in number and quotes from them and some of the epistles of Paul and Revelation.

NOTICE NYP, all these dates PRECEDE the birth of your apostate RCC!

more at http://www.bible.ca/cath-bible-origin.htm


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Catholics often boast that the Bible was written by Catholics, e.g., "All the books of the New Testament were written by Catholics." (The Bible is a Catholic Book, p. 14). When we consider the word "catholic" as meaning "universal," we readily admit that the writers were "catholic" in that sense; they were members of the church universal--the church of Christ which is described in the New Testament Scriptures (Col. 1:18; Rom. 16:16). However, we firmly deny that the writers of the New Testament were members of the Roman Catholic Church as we know it today. The Roman Catholic Church was not fully developed until several hundred years after the New Testament was written. In fact, it can be shown that the New Testament books were gathered into one volume and were in circulation long before the Catholic Church claims to have taken its action in 390 at the council of Hippo. In the following we list some of the catalogues of the books of the Bible which are given by early Christian writers.

326. Athanasius, bishop at Alexandria, mentions all of the New Testament books.
315-386. Cyril, bishop at Jerusalem, gives a list of all New Testament books except Revelation.

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So the catholic church gave us the bible?

Better think again, read this.

http://www.bible.ca/cath-bible-origin.htm

You speak and spread heresy, not even realizing in your ignorance the wrath of God burns against you. Your dead religion is damning to the soul and you will find no takers here. Your agenda is as dangerous as that of the homosexual agenda.

The Roman Catholic Church, in its pagan form, unofficially came into being in 312 A.D., at the time of the so-called "miraculous conversion" to Christianity of the Roman Emperor Constantine. Although Christianity was not made the official religion of the Roman Empire until the edicts of Theodosius I in 380 and 381 A.D., Constantine, from 312 A.D. until his death in 337, was engaged in the process of simultaneously building pagan temples and Christian churches, and was slowly turning over the reigns of his pagan priesthood to the Bishop of Rome. However, the family of Constantine did not give up the last vestige of his priesthood until after the disintegration of the Roman Empire -- that being the title the emperors bore as heads of the pagan priesthood -- Pontifex Maximus -- a title which the popes would inherit. (The popes also inherited Constantine's titles as the self-appointed civil head of the church -- Vicar of C


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Moses obeyed a command, the work you say he did was commanded by God for a purpose, Moses saved no one. Did people look to Moses to be healed, or did they look to the serpent on the pole? Why were the people bitten? Because they sinned. What was the cure? They were told to look to something, in this case, a serpent on a pole. Is Christ not who sinners look to for salvation? You fail to properly understand the teaching here, all you see is that somebody did this, and another did that, and that's why they were saved. That is all surface understanding, but it isn't at all what is being taught. Works save no one, only trusting solely in the finished work of what Christ has done will save.

Were the people healed because Moses did a work, or were they healed because Moses obeyed God? God is behind all this...


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This is just as sad as all the Roman Catholic priests who have and continue to molest young boys, is this a trend in the Roman Catholic church, along with baby trafficking {http://sueliz1.wordpress.com/2011/12/12/catholic-baby-trafficking-ring-in-spain-busted/ http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2010/07/27/the-vatican-s-gay-priests.html}?

Tell me nyp, how can one defend a denomination that is riddled with lies, immoral behavior, and still call their leader 'holy father'?


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The RCC is the only 'true church'? Then why does it twist God's word? I asked you before, what does Jesus mean in Matthew 23:9 when he commanded us to call no one on earth father? Also, can you give us the answer why the RCC directly violates this command by calling a mortal man 'holy father'? Defend your 'religion' using what you claim you gave us...God's word.

Another question, you claim you are born again, how so?

Is God's word the final and only authority?

Do you even understand it isn't about what 'denomination' one adheres to? Salvation is not based on allegiance to any one denomination; if you say otherwise, please provide Scripture to back your claim. If you cannot argue from God's word, quit wasting everyone's time and move on.


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You defend a dead religion; if the RCC were the 'true church', then why do they twist God's word and go against the teachings of scripture? I asked you before, what does Jesus mean in Matthew 23:9 when he commanded us to call no one on earth father? Also, can you give us the answer why the RCC directly violates this command?

All sinners are damned, regardless of which 'denomination' they may adhere to, if they are not born from above.

Another question, you claim you are born again, how so?

Is God's word the final and only authority?


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Where is your bible verse that commands us church attendance is necessary for salvation?
Did the early church meet in a designated building and what was their 'denomination'?

Will your church attendance grant you entrance into heaven? What is the biblical definition of 'church'?

Your purpose here is to discredit Protestantism and exalt Roman Catholicism as the 'supreme religion'. You offer nothing more than an opinion, which holds no water when compared to the holy, inspired word of God.


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How is it you claim the Roman Catholic church gave us the bible when, in fact, the bible was translated around 200AD, and the Roman Catholic church was not even in existence as we know it until around 350AD? The math does not add up sir.

Also, why is it that in 2005 the Roman Catholic Church warned its followers the bible is not totally accurate{http://www.bibleteachingnotes.com/templates/System/details.asp?id=29183&fetch=12882}. Your dead religion wants to take credit for something it says is inaccurate?


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Not attending church is no indication this young man isn't a Christian; the fact that he allows himself to be an idol, he desires fame and fortune are not the type of fruit a humble Christ follower exhibits. Yes, true believers do assemble together to hear the word of the Lord, but with the sad state of most apostate churches and dead religions in America, not going isn't a crime. If the Roman Catholic church were my only option, I would stay home. Even Protestant churches are following the cult-like teachings of the Roman Catholic church with their attempts to coerce sinners into being saved along with works that must be done.

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So you are telling us one must be a church member in order to be a Christian, in other words, a work is necessary for salvation? Can you give us biblical proof for this belief?
What does being born again mean n.y.p?

Why is it necessary to make a distinguishing point in many of your comments concerning protestant vs. catholic? If you were born again, you would understand the difference

It is very evident your intention is to cause strife and division here, shame on you. You need to take your Catholic propaganda and keep to the sites that best afford this false belief. How sad for you that you cling to a dead religion and will perish, may God be merciful and truly save you by His grace, His supernatural power.


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Let me repeat the question,

Did you read Matthew 23:9? And you do not understand this text? How is it you can be born again and not understand God's word? What did Jesus mean when He said we are to call no one on earth our father?

If you adhere to the teachings of the Roman Catholic church, you are not born again. I have given one instance of their erroneous teachings by quoting Matthew 23:9, which you cannot understand. Why can you not understand not your pope? Could it be your new birth is not a supernatural work of God but is instead a work of man, a ritual performed, thus you are not one of His sheep?

You cannot understand biblical truth unless He has given you power from on high {Luke 24:45}. Another reason you cannot understand Matthew 23:9 is found in John 8:43-44.


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you conveniently avoided the scripture presented {2 Cor. 6:14} in favor of your opinionated answer.

Does church attendance save? Did the first church gather in a building and label itself any one particular denomination? What is the 'church'?

You also have yet to address my question concerning Mat. 23:9 from another thread.


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Church attendance is not essential for salvation; those who profess to be born again and yet stay in an apostate church bear very suspect fruit. Why would you sit under false teaching, especially when the Bible says 'grow in the grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ'? How does one grow when there is an absence of truth presented? Why would one fellowship with unbelievers when the Bible commands us not to be yoked with them {2 Cor. 6:14}?

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You are much like Nicodemus, "If I told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things?"- John 3:12

Did you read Matthew 23:9? And you do not understand this text? How is it you can be born again and not understand God's word? What did Jesus mean when He said we are to call no one on earth our father?


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You are born again by the supernatural power of God...okay. Do you understand that means God has/is transforming your mind? If God has/is doing so, you will detest the false teachings of the Roman Catholic church, teachings such as the fictitious office of popery. Read this from Matthew 23:9, "And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven." Are you aware that pope means father {rom Latin: papa; from Greek: πάππας (pappas), a child's word for father}? Are you also aware that Peter tells us in 1 Peter 5:1 he was an elder and that nowhere in God's word does Peter say he was a pope?
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