John Yurich USA wrote: In otherwords I am shy and I don't like to engage in verbal communication with individuals that often. And that is why I inform individuals via written communication that salvation comes only through trusting in Jesus alone for salvation. Who says that verbal communication is the only means of informing individuals that salvation comes only through trusting in Jesus alone for salvation? If I were with you in a foxhole in time of heavy persecution I would have a pamphlet stating that salvation comes only through trusting in Jesus alone for salvation and I would give you one of those pamphlets.
You'd have a pamphlet? Seriously? That's how you communicate and have fellowship with me?
John Yurich USA wrote: If a Catholic would be crazy enough to verbally communicate instead of via written communication to other Catholics that salvation comes only through trusting in Jesus alone for salvation then they would depending upon who the priest was would probably be told by the priest to cease receiving Holy Communion. And no naturally I do not verbally communicate to Catholics in my parish that salvation comes only through trusting in Jesus alone for salvation as that really is insane. I prefer to inform other Catholics via written communication that salvation comes only through trusting in Jesus alone for salvation.
In other words, you are fearful of being kicked out of the "Synogogue of Satan" ... so you shut your piehole.
I wouldn't want you with me in a foxhole in times of heavy persecution, John.
Unprofitable Servant wrote: So, pray tell, if a person was in the RCC and trying to bring others to salvation, what would happen to that individual once the church found out his activities?? You certainly would have no hope that the message would be received by all who heard it. Also, are you in your RCC church, not blogs, IN THE RCC you attend, telling the lost that they are being deceived by the RCC and need to be born again?
Of course he isn't.
Self-admittedly, John is too shy to have fellowship with his Roman Catholic brethren. Fellowship is anathem and way too scary for John and the main reason (so he says) for NOT worshipping at any truly biblical evangelical church. Unlike the apostle Paul, John Yurich IS ashamed of the Gospel and sees no need to spread the Good News for it might have him escorted OUT of his RC church by the Knights of Columbus.
John Yurich USA wrote: But church attendance/membership is superfluous to entering Heaven. So why would the Holy Spirit guide someone who is Born Again out of the RCC? When everybody stands before Jesus after passing away He will not look at the church that one attended in determining who will enter Heaven. He will only look at if one had trusted in Him alone for salvation.
Sorry, John, but RCC doctrine is once again AGAINST your personal beliefs!
According to RCC doctrine, if a Roman Catholic does not attend mass each and every Sunday - and Holy Days of Obligation - he commits a MORTAL sin! This sin, in effect, puts him OUT of a state of grace and thereby his "salvation" is LOST (if not confessed in the "sacrament" of Confession directly to a RC priest).
Lost your salvation lately, John?
By the way, John, if church attendance is not necessary, why don't you just go to a Muslim mosque all the while maintaining your present beliefs? The result would be just about the same as what you are presently doing.
I suppose you just like stained glass windows portraying the various saints.
John Yurich USA wrote: What is your problem anyway? Luther retained the Mass in the Lutheran Church minus the unscriptural parts of stating that the Mass is a sacrifice, etc. All the Protestant Reformers celebrated the Birth of Jesus because they knew that because if the wise men celebrated the Birth of Jesus that it is not unscriptural to celebrate the Birth of Jesus. And all normal Born Again individuals celebrate the Birth of Jesus because they also know that if the wise men celebrated the Birth of Jesus that it is not unscriptural to celebrate the Birth of Jesus.
John Yurich USA wrote: I am not pretending to be Catholic. I am Catholic as I was Baptized Catholic and I attend the Catholic Church. If I don't say amen when I am handed the bread and wine then I am not acknowledging the Catholic doctrine of Holy Communion. And if I refrain from stating "and I ask the blessed Mary ever virgin and all the angels and Saints" and "may the Lord accept this sacrifice" then I am not acknowledging those doctrines. And if I don'T pay attention during the Eucharistic Prayer when the intercession of the Virgin Mary and the Saints is mentioned then I am not acknowledging that doctrine.
You, John, are a smorgasbord Catholic. I.e., picking and chosing whatever Roman Catholic doctrine you chose to believe. Even the ESSENTIAL doctrines which DEFINES one as being a Roman Catholic!
John Yurich USA wrote: No of course I don't respond with "Amen" when I am handed the bread and the cup of wine by the Eucharistic Minister for the reason that it would be acknowledging the Catholic doctrine that the bread and wine are the very body and blood of Jesus. I rarely receive the bread and the cup of wine from the priest. When I receive the bread and the cup of wine in the Catholic Church I pretend that it is the way that the Lutheran Church teaches about Holy Communion.
John, if you do NOT believe what one MUST believe (ESSENTIAL doctrines] to remain a Roman Catholic, then why do you persist on attending that "church?"
John Yurich USA wrote: No I am not partially scriptural but am scriptural since I trust in Jesus alone for salvation and adhere only to the scriptural Catholic doctrines and scriptural parts to the Mass.
You adhere ONLY to the scriptural parts of the Mass?
Really now! ...
Tell us, John, do you take communion at the RC mass? And if you do, do you respond with "Amen" when the priest places the host in the palm of your hand and proclaims: "body of Christ?" Your "amen" acknowledges your belief that what you are taking in your hand is indeed the VERY body of Christ! Do you truly believe that? Or is your "amen" mere lip service to what you MUST believe as a Roman Catholic. MUST!
Biblical Presbyterianism wrote: Oh Look John is blaspheming God again teaching that God cannot baptise and receive babies into the church - without their free will Arminian cooperation. [snip]
Red herring indeed!
For God -- the Holy Spirit -- does baptise ALL His elect into His church in due time. It's NOT a question of whether God can do this or that, but rather if infant baptism is ordained by God in Scripture.
Question: The Roman Catholic church baptizes babies also. Are their peado-baptisms as efficacious as Presby peado-baptisms when it comes to those babies' salvation? Why or why not?
SF from TX wrote: You can't read the wrong "Bible" rightly. It's wrong. Things that contradict can not both be right. Example: Isaiah 14:12,15. Look that up in the KJV and the NIV/NASB. Then look up Revelation 16:22 to see who the real morning star is. Clearly the KJV is of God and the Vatican manuscripts-new versions) are satanic. No surprise though-satan transforms himself into a angel of light, 2 Corinthians 11:14.
Now read: Acts 12:4 in the KJV. It translates "pascha" as EASTER! Clearly, the original manuscripts were refering to PASSOVER ... not Easter (which had its origins in paganism).
John Yurich USA wrote: What if there is a Catholic who is Born Again by reason of having embraced Jesus as their Savior and yet they are shy and don't like the worship services of an Evangelical Protestant Church because they would be expected to fellowship and engage in interpersonal verbal communication with individuals? Would you expect them to attend an Evangelical Protestant Church anyway because you have the unscriptual notion that if one who is Born Again and does not unite with an Evangelical Protestant Church that they are not saved?
Why is it that I perceive that the "shy" person you speak of is none other than ... YOURSELF?
I'd be willing to wager that it is YOU who don't like to fellowship and engage in interpersonal verbal communication with individuals! Therefore, it is quite convenient for YOU to attend mass and then scoot out of there as fast as possible (as do many, if not all, of the Roman Catholics you "worship" with).
To post here on SermonAudio is YOUR vicarioius and ONLY form of "fellowship."
It's just a hunch I have based on MY past experience as a Roman Catholic myself. I.e., virtually NO ONE sticks around once the mass is finished. That is a fact.
CS wrote: John Yurich's constant chittering about Luther and what he did and if he was saved or not is nothing but a straw man arguement....sure wouldn't want to base my salvation experience or testimony on what someone else believed or did....where is Holy Ghost conviction and repentance from sin and dead works(romanism) and loving and obeying Jesus Christ in any of this mans posts...plus I have never seen any scripture posted for what he believes just some rhetoric concerning Luther or some other individuals and what they believe and have told him...very fearful indeed.
John Yurich USA wrote: In November 1997 during an Altar Call at my brother's Non Denominational Church I embraced Jesus as my Savior by praying to Him and asking Him to become my Savior, just as it states in Romans 10:9. And right away I started being guided by the Holy Spirit to know that there are some unsciptural Catholic doctrines and some unscriptural parts to the Mass. If I was not Born Again and not being guided by the Holy Sprit I would not have the ability to know that there are some unscriptural Catholic doctrines and some unscriptural parts to the Mass. Luther was saved and retained the Mass in the Lutheran Church and retained the majority of Catholic doctrines in the Lutheran Church but you guys have no problem believing that Luther was saved.
You cite Rom 10:9 That's a start. Now PLEASE tell me wherein Rom 10:9 states that you pray to Him and "ask Him (Jesus) to become my (your) Savior"?
Obtaining a SAVING faith is the issue in regeneration (being "born again") and not merely asking Jesus to become your Savior! Were you heavily convicted of your total lostness and impossible situation prior to your conversion? Or did you merely respond to an altar call out of emotion? True conversion would have made you RUN out of the RCC!
John Yurich USA wrote: That is totally false to state that if one who becomes Born Again by embracing Jesus as their Savior does not leave the Catholic Church and unite with an Evangelical Protestant Church that they are not saved. The Bible gives only one requirement for salvation and that is to become Born Again which according to Baptist teaching means to embrace Jesus as ones Savior. Jesus did not mention anything about that church attendance in any church including Evangelical Protestant Churches is required for salvation. One can remain saved if they remain in the Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church or any of the Mainline Non Evangelical Protestant Churches after embracing Jesus as their Savior.
"EMBRACING Jesus as their [your] Savior" (?)
Please give us your testimony as to how and when you became a NEW CREATION in Christ Jesus. Thank you.