This is a great point Mark is making. Liberals won't accept it because liberals only view people as a problem. They don't see people as producers. We are reaping the whirwind due to abortion. We've lost productive people,and the value of life. Abortion was supposed to end child abuse,but it didn't happen. You find out that people who dispose of a child before birth, might not be too kind to children they end up having later. Also we reap the consequences. Without these workers entering the workforce our economy is affected. We have to bring in outsiders who do not love America and have a dedication to her.
Jim, that article on Sarah Palin was just garbage. Also how exactly is Sarah Palin a failed mother? If you are talking about her daughter having a child out of wedlock,then you have to point to Sarah and Todd's permissiveness or lack of Christian morality to make such a claim. Could it be that Bristol just sinned on her own? At least she didn't get an abortion.
I'd like to marry Lila Rose to one of my sons. She is the kind of daughter in law that I would be thrilled to have. She is doing the Lord's Work, exposing the terrible evil of abortion. May the Lord bless her and the organization.
Strat wrote: At the end of the day Bono still has his millions and goes home to his estate,people need to remember that when people like Bono associate themselves with politicians to benefit the poor your money goes out of your pocket and his money stays in his,there are going to be plenty of people standing before God expecting credit for what they did with other people's money....I doubt it will fly.
Strat, Are you sure about your statements? Do you have Bono's financial records in front of you and know how much he personally gives to charities?
Dolores wrote: Amazing grace..one man saved by the simple words,"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved." What an awesome testimony of this man's salvation and the preacher who led him to Christ and he lived to tell it. One hundred years later, still being told and still touching lives, even on here for those who have never heard this story and are being touched by it.
It happened to the Philippian Jailer too in Acts 16
Strat wrote: Yes the man had an abundance of faults,but I find the contrast between the way people want to assume he is lost and want to assume others are saved,you can be a cross dressing child molester and people will say maybe you were saved in the end and rebuke anyone who says otherwise,but an obviously over zelous preacher with no respect for social and cultural norms....well he most certainly has to be in Hell.
I never mentioned the spiritual condition of Phelps our his church. What I referred to, was nasty behavior that is called,"doing the will of God". Here is an example. If I do a funeral for a lost man, I don't tell his family that he is writhing in Hell. I tell them to turn to Christ so they can be saved. In fact their loved one would want them to do this. I'm not sure you can call protesting funeral services as a fault. It is evil,nasty and without any foundation in the Spirit of God.
Strat wrote: Mr Phelps did not appeal to the flesh and we know what an unforgivable sin that is,we see leaders everyday caught in all kinds of scandals involving money,sex and corruption who have secured unshakable support with their used car salesman personalities, but God forbid anyone be accused of not soothing the emotions and sensitivities of the masses,to coddle and cuddle them and stroke their egos and make thenm feel good about themselves. Mr Phelps was an accomplished civil rights lawyer,so much so that he received recognition from the NAACP but who has mentioned it. I make no claims of knowing where Mr Phelps is now but should he be in a less desirable place I doubt it will be because of reasons most would assume..pity he did not have the charm of a Joel Osteen or a Benny Hinn for he would have received a much better reception in this life.
My problem with Phelps and his church was the protesting during funerals. You just don't do that. You don't do it ever. People are grieving their dead. It's throwing salt in the wound which is despicable. Whenever I do a funeral and I know the person was unsaved, do you think I tell the family that their loved one is writing in Hell? No,but I tell them to repent and trust in Christ.
John Yurich USA wrote: This really is insane. Why would that stupid hotel cave in to those stupid and insane atheists? If I was running that hotel I would have told those atheists to mind their own business and that I would continue to have Bibles in the guest rooms. Why would an atheist complain about the Bible being in the hotel room? The atheist is not compelled to read the Bible.
I can see a Hotel taking the Bibles out of the room while the atheists are there. But to get rid of the program altogether? That's nuts.I am a huge fan of the Gideons.
I would see Rom 5:12 to be about the whole world being affected by sin. You make a great point about Romans 8,which I believe speaks explicitly about what Paul implies in Rom 5:12. He says that through one man sin entered the world. It didn't just enter man. It entered the world. And through sin death came. I believe Paul's comment about death is for the whole world too. If you look back at Genesis 1:30 and to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the sky and to every thing that moves on the earth which has life, I have given every green plant for food"; and it was so. We can conclude that before the Fall there were no meat eaters. People and animals ate vegetation. I believe that before the Fall there was no death at all. Because sin entered the world through one man, then all of that got changed for both man and animals. I wonder what Pat Robertson thinks of the world before the Fall, or does he even contemplate what sin actually has done to the world? Obviously he would have to have a real Adam and Eve wouldn't he? I do admit some lack of knowledge of the Old Earth position on some of these things.
Wouldn't death be both physical and spiritual. Sure Adam didn't die physically on the day he ate the fruit. It was spiritual. But physical death is also a consequence of sinning against God. It's why I do funerals as a pastor.
Lurker wrote: Not making an argument for or against old earth; but it depends on how one interprets "death". Did Adam die when he ate of the forbidden fruit as God warned him? Just something to think about.
Romans 5:12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned I would think that the following verse would be a problem for evolutionists, and also could be a problem for old earth proponents. Before Adam there was no death in the world. When he sinned death entered the world,meaning that animals and people face it. I'm not sure what the position is for believers who understand the world and universe to be old. Do they think nothing existed before until a certain point in history? I'll have to study this more.
Bill is just speaking out of ignorance. Perhaps he never read what God said through the prophet Isaiah. Isaiah 1:18 âCome now, and let us reason together,â Says the Lord, âThough your sins are as scarlet, They will be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They will be like wool. Yeah, that sounds like an evil God doesn't it? That's sarcasm. :-)
I'm 45, and when we had two children I went to my wife and said I wanted to have another child. I cautioned her that if we had another child, then we'd drive used cars. She thought that would be ok, so instead of having one more child we had two more. People today act like we have a ton of kids because we have four. I fear for those women who choose career over motherhood because the biological clock is ticking. They just might see the clock run out, and feel sorrow for their decision.
Therwel wrote: In the article it sounds like these young parents are being put off by financial concerns rather than parenthood per se. Todays young women are more geared in modern society towards careers than motherhood. Children have become a financial burden rather than a desired family. Looking back a few decades we see people when they were less well off still aspired to marriage, parenthood and family. But sadly the god of mammon puts financial predictions in a more influential position in todays young minds.
Liberals only see people as voters and consumers. Obviously this idiot doesn't see people as precious individuals made in the image of God. Did he not think about the taxes these people would be paying if allowed to live? It's funny that liberals want all kinds of social spending and then want to kill people to save money. It's actually not funny.....it's sad.
Why lessen the amounts of abortion if there is nothing wrong with abortion? The President is talking out of both sides of his mouth. If abortion is completely justified and acceptable in our country then as a nation we should encourage women to have more of them not less. Yet the president wants to give out free birth control pills. He is of the double tongued. God is watching.
And yet we have not heard about this case from from much of the media. Why is that? It's because this man is just performing abortions outside the womb. The same thing happens inside the womb when a child is murdered.
It is hard without knowing the situation to know how to take this. Did the children turn out the way they did because of bad parenting? Or was it that the children just chose the wrong path bringing grief to their mother? Whatever the case I at least appreciate this woman's honesty. She needs to reconcile with her children and stop enabling them to use her if they are doing so.