Jim Lincoln wrote: UPS,..e President LBJ did a lot of Civil Rights,"
Jim, thanks for your response and the nice compliment. Your CPAC article neglects to point out that there was a civil rights bill under Republican president Dwight Eisenhower (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1957 for documentation and quote) that then Senate Majority leader LBJ received recognition "...from the mostly southern anti-civil rights Democrats for reducing it so much as to kill it." That a Republican president "freed" the slaves and that NO democrat voted for the 14th amendment. Even when they passed civil rights legislation a much larger percentage of Republicans voted for it than Democrats. You can LBJ's attitude in a quote from this web site (http://tinyurl.com/n6a5kbh) which for space and so as not to needlessly offend will not post it. LBJ was no friend of the black man. His motivation is seen in the quote on this website (http://tinyurl.com/k2j7956) again not posting it here so as to not needlessly offend. Not sure who gave you the idea about Southern Catholic, very few of those down this way, mainly Baptist.
Also, the revolution was not about changing gov. but conserving what they had taken away, see Declaration of Independence.
Jim Lincoln wrote: .. Apparently, a lot of Republicans would put Jesus on a burning cross, or hang Him? ....
Jim, you would do well to remember some history. Burning crosses and lynchings were a part of the Jim Crow South and the KKK. After the assassination of Lincoln the radical republicans (they were around back then) decided to punish the South. Thus for well over 100 years the South was run by democrats. In fact, during my tenure here in Georgia (about 30 years)we had the first republican governor since reconstruction (2003). The South was solidly democratic during the cross burning/lynching era. Also, the KKK was founded by democrats and the republicans founded the NAACP (you couldn't tell that now) to counter it. So, if you want to refer to cross burners and lynchers, please get your political parties straight, that would be the democrats.
The definer of the term radical, btw, is you and your leftist political partners. The Republican party (a huge disappointment)is far from perfect, but are a much better choice when compared to the radical left democrats that control the Senate and the White House.
What we need in this day and age is not more politicians, but more preachers of the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Just a quick thought I wish to share. I was reminded this morning that through much tribulation we shall enter the kingdom of God. I know we would prefer flowery beds of ease. Always beholding our Savior's face and experiencing His smile. We love the blessed fellowship with the One who is altogether lovely. Yet how much more precious does He become when we realize that though we go through the water of trials they will not overflow and the fire of trouble it will not consume us for He is with us to sustain us. We need the furnace of affliction to burn away the dross in our lives. We need the trying of our faith to help take away our affections for the things that turn us from our God. We pray that God would use whatever means to make us like unto the image of His dear Son, that He may see, even in us, somewhat of the travail of His soul May He sanctify our afflictions that we may be found to the praise and honor of Him who has called us out of darkness into His glorious light.
Also, may I join the list of people who will let you know that you will continue to be in my prayers and more specifically about this matter. Agree, get legal help, there are groups that specialize in this type of situation.
Strat wrote: Unprofitable,i have never said any of those things and have no idea how to respond to you,if you can quote me saying those things please do.....any of you quote me if you can saying anything you say I have said. Ladybug,thank you,coming from you that means a lot.I am cruel because I disagree with you,divisive because I have the right like you do to speak my point of view and unlike you with your gender specific theology apply the bible to both sides,and show no love for anyone because your definition of love is twisted to conform to your pseudo christian misandrist views....have a good evening and thanks for the compliments.
Thanks for your clarification, Strat. There is a reason I left an open ended question at the end of my post. I was not trying to say you had said anything about which I questioned you. I was trying to clarify your position because reading the way the thread was going that was how it appeared you were being perceived and I did not figure it was where you stood. Appreciate your stances against liberalism and feminism. God bless.
Strat wrote: Feminism has influenced the Church to the degree that there is no longer any balance to the discussion of the marriage relaitionship....one is always right and the other is always wrong....one guess as to who is always wrong. The bold presumption that a woman will submit to a "Godly" man is nonsense in today's world....unless of course she is allowed to define "Godly"...."yes honey,i agree that we should do it my way"
so what is your purposed solution, throw up our hands and do nothing? Just say it is hopeless? Are you saying that being submissive means you become a doormat? Do you think the husband should give the wife's view any credence or is it now that she is married what she thinks doesn't matter? Does being a "help meet" mean that whatever you think about issues in the home is irrelevant? It doesn't matter "if momma is happy" just that the husband is king in his palace? What are you saying?
mourner wrote: ... I love Isaiah 58 for mining in the word and I'd appreciate any thoughts
Colossians 2:16,17 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Exodus 31:17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed. (see also Ezekiel 20:12 and 31:13)
The sabbath is specifically said to be a sign between God and the children of Israel. The only sabbath observance prior to the exodus was God. Not Job, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, etc. NONE until ISRAEL observed it as a nation AFTER it left Egypt.
NOWHERE in the New Testament era is the sabbath admonished to be kept, all of the other commandments ARE repeated in one form or the other. The only sabbath mentioned to be kept is in Hebrews 4:9 and it is future.
"For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many."
Ephesians 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it 28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. 29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church
You serve your wife and love as Christ loves the church, and she probably will have no issue with submitting to you as her husband.
Lurker wrote: I know you do, Mike, and I respect that. Glad I could help. . . . Something new. Is someone willing to take this verse and expound its meaning in context? Zec 11:10 And I took my staff, even Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people.
Well, Lurker, anybody can plainly see those verses teach that circumcision will be replaced with baptism. In fact, in the 3 pastoral epistles the baptizing of infants plays such importance in the church that Paul mentions it....ahhh....errrr....zero times.
Wait do they state God is breaking His covenant with ALL 12 tribes of Israel?????
Surely, there must be something in Calvin's Institutes, or the WCF, that shows that these verses are saying what was mentioned earlier. Maybe a catechism. Gotta be somewhere, a commmentary ....
This will probably not be a popular opinion here, but I believe the court was wrong. The applicant did not state at the time he was hired that Saturday work was an issue, even though he knew it was and that the plant operated on Saturdays. He didn't go to work for the Psychic Network (they are a bunch of frauds anyway), they can't read his mind. It would be different if he had worked there awhile and was granted Saturday's off due to his religious beliefs and they took it away.
Thanks Anne and Michael H for your very kind words. It is a blessing to live in the peach state, at least for the most part my congressman and senators vote on the correct side of most issues. God's blessing to you both.
Lurker wrote: Not to draw attention away from SF's announcement, but it seems I hold a minority view regarding the upcoming movies "Son of God" and "Noah". I can cope with that. The bible say we have not because we ask not. I don't think the kingdom of God has reached its maximum capacity yet so I will ask God to use these movies for the good of His kingdom. Whether or not He will is His choice but since He used a dumb a*s to rebuke a mad prophet, it doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility.
If God can use the wrath of man to praise Him, surely he can use films that contain the Word of God to speak to a heart about their need of God. If anything it can be a conversation starter in which we can share the message to seek the Lord while He may be found. Thanks for the reminder Lurker and the burden we should all need to witness to the lost their need to come to Christ.
mourner, I hesitate to reply. My point was that God expects us to use our 5 God given senses in the exercise of our faith.
Let me come up with some examples that hopefully you will find acceptable. When the children of Israel crossed the Jordan river on dry river bed into the promised land, they took stones and erected a memorial so that when their children would SEE the pillar they would ask and be instructed as to God's great deliverance. In the tabernacle, within the holy of holies was a pot of manna, the two tablets of the decalogue and Aaron's rod that budded as a physical reminder of God's dealings with the children of Israel. When the 2 and 1/2 tribes crossed back over Jordan they built an altar after the pattern so they had a physical witness that they were part of the Lord's inheritance. The Israelites were to aid in teaching their children by binding them as a sign upon their hand and having fronlets between their eyes and writings upon the post of their house. Countless examples could be made from what the prophets did in the sight of the children of Israel If we could not exercise any of our senses our faith would stand, that does not mean we lack faith if we do.
Strat wrote: Why post only part of what I said,i said that man has had all the bible says he needs to recognize and acknowledge God as creator and Savior,the idea that not only does man need more evidence but that he can create it himself has led to a man centered religion and not Christ centered Christianity with man and HIS creations on display and not the simple,unadorned,non technical,non technicolor simplicity of the gospel. The bible plainly says that man fails to acknowledge God,refuses to acknowledge God and that because of that he has turned people over to a reprobate mind...so now man is going to redeem himself by creating an image and an object that will cause him to acknowledge God.....please.
Strat, wasn't trying to misrepresent what you posted, sorry if I didn't get all in. I appreciate your emphasis on the power of God and use of Scripture in bringing men and women to Christ. I don't think building an ark takes away from that. I think you should also consider Acts 17 when Paul preached at Mar's Hill, he quoted their poets and used their artifacts in giving the message of the gospel and spoke from general revelation.
Strat wrote: Unprofitable Servant,man has had the heavens and the earth to gaze at for centuries as an example of how God plans things in intricate detail and we still live in the world we live in.....
Must confess I have yet to read the article. If they are implying that people coming to see the ark would be a means to their obtaining of salvation, then all would whole-heartedly agree with you. If they are saying that they would present the gospel inside the exhibit that would be another story. I don't think anyone here has suggested that people will be saved because someone is building a life size replica of the ark. Neither do I see it as idol worship as suggested by Neil.
R. K. Borill wrote: Non profit servant said: "My contention is that we are not responsible for the unregenerate acting like they are unregenerate. (Jeremiah 13:23)" Is that Jeremiah is saying? Consider what Cain said and how much your words sound like his: Genesis 4:9-10 KJV  And the Lord said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?  And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.
To use that verse to say what you are saying is WAY out of context. Try again please.
Brothers Neil and Strat, Moses talked with God face to face and yet said unto the Lord, SHOW me thy glory. The Scripture says of our Lord all His garments smell of myrrh, and aloes, and cassia. We are to taste and see that the Lord is gracious, Job said after he had heard and seen the Lord, that he abhorred himself in dust and ashes (see also Isaiah 6) John said that which we have seen and heard and our hands have handled of the Word of life. NONE of the disciples believed until they saw. God made us visual creatures for a reason. If a life size ark helps us to understand what it must have taken for Noah and his sons to labor to build and how God planned out things in intricate detail to preserve all living, then great. How many have had a deeper understanding of Scripture after visiting Israel. The eye of faith, longs for reality. God showed Moses the promised land, and Paul visions of heaven. Did not our Lord use parables of earthly things to put forth heavenly truths? I am not addressing the commercialization of this project or do I have any plans to go to it, but I can see how it can be used as a ministry. ALL of us should walk by faith and not by sight, nothing wrong with tools to help us in our pilgrimage. Just my thoughts.