pennned wrote: Unprofitable Servant, am I to take it that you think their removal of Palestinian families, whole neighborhoods bulldozed. whole territories shrunken methodically year after year so that extended families can no longer contact each other, and their businesses shut down...... is the building of God's Kingdom? Do you think this is making the lost people closer to God when they grab that house, kick the other out and move in?
Good evening pennned. I can tell this is a sensitive subject for you. I don't believe I said or implied anything of the sort that you mentioned in your post. But to answer your questions, no and no.
But I will gladly pose the same questions to you, my purpose was and is informational. There are many questions I could have asked if I had wished to be confrontational, but that isn't my desire here.
Please feel free to open up and express your thoughts, am trying to get the jist of SteveR's and also your mind set on this matter and to that end your post was quite informational. Steve has stated he has been there, so trying to get his information not trying to start a feud. Thanks, God bless.
Why would it be illogical to assume that a person participating in an activity is not doing that for which the activity is intended? If I see a person eating food at a restaurant, I don't assume they are really fasting because in their mind what they are doing isn't really eating. It would be totally illogical to assume that a person who is at mass and partaking in mass is not participating in the mass as being administered by the priest. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, its a duck. In the long run at the judgment day it matters not what the Baptist teach, or for that matter what I say. My contention is that your stance falls short of the standards of the Word of God.
From John 12:48 "...the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day."
You haven't changed your baptism, your confirmation, or stopped faithfully attending a RCC and regularly partaking in mass. How does any of that show you have been born from above? Read the testimonies in Romania Gains Lutheran President thread and make a comparison to what you constantly affirm here.
John my hope for you is that one day you give a testimony to the true salvation that is wrought from above.
If talk radio has an affect on elections it sure isn't an effective one. First, the vast majority (percentage in mid to high 90's) of the newsprint, all the major networks (including PBS) and their affiliates (with the exception of FOX news not the FOX network) are the voice of the left. So, conservative talk radio doesn't begin to balance the equation. (liberal talk radio has no audience) Second, during the era of talk radio which effectively began in 1989 with Rush Limbaugh, we have had the democrats in control of both houses of congress (1989-1995;2007-2011) and the presidential nominees that lost were moderates Dole, McCain, and Romney (arguable the most conservative of the 3). Conservative talk radio isn't popular because they win a lot of converts to conservatism (they do have people that see the light) it is popular because conservatives finally heard on the radio or tv people who think like they already did. (far contrary to the belief that talk radio tells conservatives how to think)
Is this your true colors coming out? You think only ignorant people vote against the Democrsts and their agenda? You don't see that as a condescending and arrogant attitude towards those who don't share your viewpoint?
Lemme get this straight. You don't think the New American should be who defines what the Democrats are and should do. But, you think the NYT is capable of defining who the Republicans are and should do.
Jim, what the NYT, Media Matters,Daily KOS, Huffington Post, etc. say about the Republicans is a waste of time. You would do well to shy away from such ultra-liberal sources when it comes to anything political. When you start with the wrong premise (anything the NYT says about politics) you come to the wrong conclusion.
Jim Lincoln wrote: ... Considering Congress has been sitting on it stands for over a year anyway....
Even CNN (gotta be one of your favorite sources) acknowledges the House sent a bill on immigration to the Senate which Senate majority leader Harry Reid, as usual, would not let come to floor (then he acts surprised when the House does the same thing with the sorry bill that came out the Senate) The president falsely states that previous administrations did the same, but Reagan signed a BILL that had passed Congress and other presidents did executive orders BASED UPON EXISTING LAW, while President Obama use executive action to create law (a clear breach of the Constitution--maybe he thinks he is an emperor) So no Congress has not been sitting on their hands.
Also, it looks like from what you posted it is the President not the Republicans kowtowing to the RCC.
The president basically said, people broke the law but will not be punished for their disobedience. Now, we all know that is Biblical teaching, right?
Here is a list of just of the 10 lies in the speech (it was funny the major networks didn't carry it)
But keep sticking up for him Jim, because that is what independents do
Sadly, John, could have written your response. You know there was a reason I used capital letters in my first response, because they hired the photographer to take pictures of their ceremony, if he shows up and acts like he is doing that but instead is taking pictures of a lens cap then yes that is being deceptive(see definition).
Nobody has said you can't be deceptive, your constitutional rights aren't being violated.
Though not here, you are telling us you freely choose to go to the RCC and partake in the mass so that all who see believe you are following the RCC teachings of salvation. Here on this forum the only one being deceived is you (well and another poster).
God is not mocked, whatsoever a man sows he will reap, whether sowing to the Spirit and reaping life everlasting or as you choose sowing to the flesh to reap eternal corruption.
I said you would defend your actions that Scripture clearly condemns, it is just another sign that you haven't been born from above.
1 John 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
1 John 2:4 He that says, I know him, and keeps not his commandments (try the 9th, note James 2:10), is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
If I make an appearance at the wedding with my camera to TAKE PICTURES of your "wedding" and I leave my lens cap on but tell you I AM TAKING PICTURES of the event then I am being deceptive. It is no wonder you have no problem with this thinking, you go to mass and partake in it, but (according to you) you secretly change what people see on the outside because of thoughts and actions unknown to them, in other words, you are being deceptive.
deceptive - giving an appearance or impression different from the true one; misleading
What are some the Scriptures about such practice.
Proverbs 12:5 The thoughts of the righteous are right: but the counsels of the wicked are deceit.
Proverbs 12:20 Deceit is in the heart of them that imagine evil: but to the counselors of peace is joy.
Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
2 Corinthians 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
see also Mark 7:22 and Romans 1:29 Being deceptive is called false, wicked, and evil
Your response will be to defend your actions. Maybe this will help you see why many on this board don't see you as regenerate. (I Samuel 15:22)
More on SteveR, hope he doesn't mind all this attention for one of the members of the so called unholy trinity.
There may be followers of the threads who don't post here that have RCC friends or family. Maybe they have been led to believe, like SteveR or John Yurich, that there isn't that much difference between the RCC and themselves. That, imho, has been thoroughly discredited by the many sisters and brothers who faithfully post here. Seeing the Lord can use the wrath of man to praise Him, we could see Him using the refutation of the erroneous positions of some who post here being as a great teaching tool.
Much helpful material has been put forth about the RCC and its false doctrines and teachings. Along with many useful insights that have been shared for those who need to witness to a loved one about the dangers of the RCC.
Finally, it is a reminder to all of to keep in prayer those who have loved ones trapped in the deceitful web of the RCC that God would be merciful to them and open their eyes to the truth of the glorious gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ and grant them repentance and faith unto eternal life.
Sorry again for the lengthy posts, do appreciate y'alls patience with me. God bless.
Brother Michael, my two cents on the matter of SteveR. We live by Biblical principles, i.e. the Bible says we let patience have a perfect work in us, so we don't blare the horn when the guy in front us isn't resuming driving on the green light as quickly as we wish he would although the verse says nothing about traffic lights. (I know you know this I am trying to avoid being misunderstood)
The apostle Paul stated that Alexander the Coppersmith did him much harm and asked God to reward him for his evil, and there is also a principle about admonishing (warning) individuals 2 or 3 times. (Titus 3:10, Matthew 18:15,16)
The vast majority of SteveR's posts are to incite a previous poster with degrading and condescending speech. He has been admonished many times, there have been several attempts to give him the benefit of doubt or even reward his evil with kindness. One thing that hasn't changed, is SteveR. (give him brownie points for consistency)
So, what can we say God is trying to teach us? Patience, love for those who are hard to love (praying for his salvation is a loving act), humility (our pride wants to respond and really apart from the grace of God we would do as he does) and consistency (he still needs people to admonish him to repent)
Jim Lincoln wrote: This baby wouldn't have been smiling...
Let us look at what you are advocating apart from this story. Why is it someone else's (can we say American taxpayers) responsibility to pay for YOUR (not you obviously but the family with the newborn) pregnancy? Why are you advocating NO personal responsibility? The government (who has NO money of their own, so it should read working Americans)who should pay for the choices you make and you are not responsible??? How do you line that one up with the Bible? This type of thinking is exactly why ACA will NEVER live up to the first letter in its acronym. If you neighbors house burns down through their leaving a candle burning while they were away, do you think you should be forced to pay for it to be rebuilt?
When lack of funding starts costing people treatment (this is not if but when because it will happen) will you still sing the praises of the system who basic plan will be don't get sick and if you do die quickly (as you love to quote).
There are many things the government (via OUR money) is funding that they should not, healthcare is one of them. Again, look at current government healthcare (medicare, Medicaid and vets)and tell me you still have confidence in Obamacare.
"RomneyCareâ€™s pioneering health insurance exchange is headed for the scrap heap.
Bay State officials are taking steps this week to junk central parts of their dysfunctional health insurance exchange â€” the model for President Barack Obamaâ€™s health care law â€” and merge with the federal enrollment site HealthCare.gov.
... its failure has forced the state to enroll more than 160,000 residents in temporary Medicaid coverage â€” at an estimated $10 million-a-month cost."
Jim Lincoln wrote: Penny, that's why states like Nebraska raised the minimum wage
Other than Jim from Lincoln, the only ones who see those two as unbiased are themselves. Small business is suffering under Obamacare.
Consider what the National Small Business Association, you know the people actually out in trenches not the armchair quarterbacks from Jim's site, say
Key Small Business Findings From The Survey: â€¢ 91% experienced increases in their health plan at their most recent health insurance renewal. â€¢ Over the last five years, 68% report insurance cost increases exceeding 20%. â€¢ 66% say insurance increases have left them with less profit available for general business growth. â€¢ 1/3rd say they are purposefully not growing as a result of the health law. â€¢ Today, the average monthly per-employee cost of health insurance premiums for a small business is $1,121. Compare that to 2009, when the estimated monthly cost of their health benefits package, per employee, was just $590 per month.
Jim Lincoln wrote: Ah, Penny, if you or UPS, or Mike found some good comments that counter some of the sources that counter mine, I wish you would look them up!
You would just make fun of source and call it extremist, bordering on being the KKK. etc., etc. The fact that you trust the Obama administration speaks volumes. How about you starting to read Drudge instead of the Huffington Post, that would be a good start.
John UK wrote: Perhaps they should do what I did, and download Microsoft Money Sunset for free. It's a great way to keep tabs on money coming in, and if you never spend more than that, you never get into debt. Well, that's how I do it anyway.
Good to hear from you brother John, although it means you are up late. I like your common sense approach, which, alas, is why our government won't do it. Don't spend more than you make.
Jim Lincoln wrote: 1. He isn't working for the administration anymore.
2. Again, no one is forcing women to have abortions and Obamacare does provide aid for prenatal care and birthing.
1. So, if, after setting up policies,because they are working in the administration of the country anymore, they aren't culpable, does that also apply to George W. Bush?
2. Trying to think where I heard this reasoning before about rejecting the bad parts (the murder of children) while accepting the "good parts" (prenatal care). Who is it that states they go along with the whole thing (ACA) but only believe in the good parts and thus it must be acceptable?? It has a familiar ring to it, doesn't it?