Jim Lincoln wrote: .. thus costing the country and the workplace quite a bit of money. .
Just trying to understand your post Jim. You are saying that there is a problem that according to you is costing the country and the workplace lots of money. So, I am running a corporation, and I have something that is costing my company lots of money, however if I invest in my people (who are working to make me more money) I will ultimately save cost and make more money, but I don't want to that because it also benefits the people who are working for me???? You link to a lot of things on the net, can you link to a corporation that states they are against preventative medical treatment? Maybe there is an article that shows many workers suffering from illnesses because the company they work for discourages preventative medicine. Companies don't exist to provide jobs. Companies don't exist to give benefits. They exist to make a profit. If they don't make a profit they go out of business (unless they can get you and me to pay for their failure) If providing jobs with benefits assist them in that goal, then they hire workers and provide benefits.
Jim,when the government is dictating their moral beliefs, that employers must fund access to 20 government approved contraceptives, or for that matter that it is the employers responsibility to provide healthcare benefits to their employees, don't you think shows the inadequacy of the their moral view? Shouldn't Christians be supporting righteous legislation because the Bible says righteousness exalts a nation but sin is a reproach to any people.
The current on going push to make man the measure of all things and to say there are no absolutes is being accelerated by those in Washington. The desire to enslave people into a system where no one is responsible but all are victims who can't help themselves is not only what Strat has been trying to point out, but is unfolding before our very eyes.
Sad thing is Jim, the very group you despise is trying to put on the brakes and very group you think highly of has the pedal to the medal.
Perfect government will only happen when the kingdoms of this world become the kingdoms of our Lord. Pointing out political failures has its place but there is clarion call to humble ourselves before the God of glory and petition Him who rules the kings heart, to exalt His name in our midst, whether it be by life or by death.
John Yurich USA wrote: I am not the one who is demented. The poster from Nebraska is for not comprehending when to legally refer to a father and son as Sr. and Jr.
John Y, appreciate your desire for accuracy, wish it carried over into the practice of your religion. It is not uncommon for people to call the son of a dad junior as a nickname even when they don't share the same name. In Jim's world it is a term of derision, in the real world most people use it as a term of endearment. Try and look at it this way. Jim's about to make an inaccurate statement about George W Bush, so he lets people know that at the start of his comment by referring to him inaccurately as junior. You know what follows is also a misrepresentation and distortion. Hope that helps.
Also, you would do well to stop the needless name calling and put downs of your perception of other people's level of intelligence. We all can say what do we have that we have not received and why would we glory as if we had not been given it.
pennnned wrote: "And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. "And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. "And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. "And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new." Revelations 21: 2-5
Thanks for sharing the verses they are a blessing, what great things lie ahead for the redeemed.
When I stand before the throne, Dressed in beauty not my own, When I see Thee as Thou art, Love Thee with unsinning heart, Then Lord, shall I fully knowâ Not till thenâhow much I owe.
When the praise of Heavân I hear, Loud as thunders to the ear, Loud as many watersâ noise, Sweet as harpâs melodious voice, Then, Lord, shall I fully knowâ Not till thenâhow much I owe.
Jim Lincoln wrote: Ah, lady and gentlemen, I think this URL will clean up the first one I had, ...
So you think we should be take the word of the propagandist who put out the curriculum (they couldn't even get the educators they had to sign off on it) over the folks in the field who are actually having to deal with it. No wonder you think Obamacare is a good idea.
Good link brother Mike great comment sister jpw, appreciate you
pennnned wrote: some of my dearest friends have been dispensational...
Pennned so why do you think the Palestinians deserve the land, would they not have had to taken it from the Jews many centuries ago? Do you think the Jews have no right to defend themselves against their own destruction? (see book of Esther) Do you think the Hamas, who produce suicide bombers, send countless missiles indiscriminately into Israel and are classified as a terrorist organization are more compassionate than Israel? Do you believe as long as Palestinians build hospitals and assist their own it is fine if they kill and maim others? But it is wrong for Jewish people to protect their people? Would it be more accurate to say you despise dispensationalist and that is the source of your anti-Israel stance? Maybe you are palestenian? Maybe your sources are deceiving you?
Hamas' 1988 charter states that Hamas "strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine. (wiki)
Also, SCOTUS, did not say Obamacare is founded or funded by taxes they said IT WAS A TAX and thus it was legal. ---no matter who originated it (even if as you allege they stole it from the republicans) we only have it as law now because democrats and ONLY democrats voted for it, and they have gone on record, thanks to the republicans, of having wanted it over 50 times---
We have noted before that AARP has an over 2 billion dollar gain from the unAffordable unhealthy nocare Act so is not a reliable source.
Then you hit the wrong link in you final words of the post it should have been
And I don't mind helping you keep these things straight.
Jim Lincoln wrote: ... Ups, I don't know if I remember how to spell Konradiff Wave it really depends on what part of the economic cycle you are in on how taxes will affect the economy. in an expanding economy, lower taxes will help the expansion more so, and actually more money might be taken in. The super rich are outside that cycle I would think, and should be taxed more heavily--all the time.
Ok Jim we just quoted from Huffington Post, so your kind of source, that the top 10% of wage earners pay SEVENTY percent of all the taxes. What amount do we need to raise that to so that they are paying their "fair" share in your opinion?
The sands of time are sinking, the dawn of Heaven breaks; The summer morn Iâve sighed forâthe fair, sweet morn awakes: Dark, dark hath been the midnight, but dayspring is at hand, And glory, glory dwelleth in Immanuelâs land.
O Christ, He is the fountain, the deep, sweet well of love! The streams of earth Iâve tasted more deep Iâll drink above: There to an ocean fullness His mercy doth expand, And glory, glory dwelleth in Immanuelâs land.
The King there in His beauty, without a veil is seen: It were a well spent journey, though seven deaths lay between: The Lamb with His fair army, doth on Mount Zion stand, And gloryâglory dwelleth in Immanuelâs land.
O I am my Belovedâs and my Belovedâs mine! He brings a poor vile sinner into His âhouse of wine.â I stand upon His meritâI know no other stand, Not even where glory dwelleth in Immanuelâs land.
The Bride eyes not her garment, but her dear Bridegroomâs face; I will not gaze at glory but on my King of grace. Not at the crown He giveth but on His pierced hand; The Lamb is all the glory of Immanuelâs land.
penned wrote: "Now is the judgment of this world: ....
sorry about the loss of your friend. But you are correct we rejoice that they are cancer and suffering free. We rejoice in their passage into glory and they are in a state of eternal bliss, no more sorrow, suffering, sin, separation, or sickness. We love them enough to know they are in the best spot and it is we who are still in a pilgrimage to the land of eternal blessedness. That of course does not mean we don't miss them, the loss is on our side, the gain is on theirs. We need to grieve their passing but rejoice with those who rejoice and it should gladden our hearts that they have finished their course and by God's grace we will join them one day when we lay our armor down and go to our eternal reward
SteveR wrote: two things 1) Sin and death were BOTH conquered at the Cross 2) Look up studies, commentaries and sermons on Matt 12:29. You will receive a range of understanding on the extent Satan is considered bound. Some will say only as much as the early chapters of Job demonstrate, others(like my Church) will say Satan is now fully bound
Ok SteveR, you have opened this discussion, I hope you don't mind if I join. Just wondering your response here please. If the devil is fully bound, why do we have verse that admonishes us to be sober and vigilant for our adversary the devil walks about as a roaring lion seeking who he may devour?
If he is fully bound, why does James remind us to resist (an already bound foe) and he will flee (how could he if he is bound).
http://www.heritage.org/federalbudget/income-tax-receipts The next 2 sources are your type of people Jimbo
"Buried inside a Congressional Budget Office report this week was this nugget: when it comes to individual income taxes, the top 40 percent of wage earners in America pay 106 percent of the taxes. The bottom 40 percent...pay negative 9 percent."
top 1% pay 30% of the income tax revenue, but somehow that is not enough? The top 10% pay 70% or better.
Christine wrote: People still believe that Obama is responsible, or that Brown is responsible, or that Bush was responsible or that our votes actually count..... when will Christians believe at sin and evil are behind it all, and that we should not be surprised that our government is capable of being corrupt and he ahen.... we should not be passing judgement and placing blame on unbelievers. By their fruits they are known... Revelation 22 11 says they are to carry on...
So, just trying to understand. God shouldn't have destroyed the earth with a flood because the imagination of man's heart was only evil continually and it was just things being as they were supposed to be?
There is no culpability on the part of the people from the California legislature (or voters)involved because they can't help it? Not trying to put words in your mouth, is that what you are saying?
Trust me Christpher, it was usual toxic maligning of God' s people by SteveR in violation of SA policy and demonstrstion of his true nature because I John 4:20 says a man that loves God and hates his brother is a liar. May God grant him repentance to genuine saving faith before it is everlastingly too late.
Sorry to hijack this thread, but I would please ask my sisters and brethren on this site for prayer. Concerning our youngest grandchild who knows not the Lord, and has just gone thru a violent traumatic event. Is having a very difficult time. Thank you for those who the Lord leads in this matter.
Dorcas wrote: Sorry to hijack this thread, but I would please ask my sisters and brethren on this site for prayer. Concerning our youngest grandchild who knows not the Lord, and has just gone thru a violent traumatic event. Is having a very difficult time. Thank you for those who the Lord leads in this matter.
Sorry to hear that, will be praying for them and for you.
PursuitofTruth wrote: Unprobitable Servant, I did correct my statement and may it be noted that you can't delete something once it's been posted. Only SA can do that. I said in my post right after that we shouldn't accuse her either because this is only pre trial gosip, unproven by the blaze of truth. I was not meaning to accuse her in my former post, but just point out something I had found rather odd.
P.O.T., I am unsure of how you access the site and by what means you make comments. You can indeed from a computer choose to edit your comments, at which time you can change its content or choose to delete it. There is a time window on that (someone smarter than I might could tell you how long that is) but it can be done. You would click on edit my comment. I do realize that some access (like a smart phone) do not allow for such activity. Thanks