s c wrote: Wayfarer, excellent commentary. Unprofitable, did we ever have a Christian president?
Hey sc, hope all is well. We have multiple presidents from the founding of our nation that have testified of their faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. God only knows whether their profession was genuine. Just out of curiosity, why do you ask? Thanks
God is surely to be feared both reverently and by the fear of dread by those of us who are saved. The author of Hebrews reminds Christians who willfully sin that it is a fearful thing to fall into God's hands. Yet, the fear of dread is also experienced by the unsaved (Luke 12:5) but not so the fear of reverence. After telling us about the precious promises that God dwells and walks with us, that He would deign to be our God and acknowledge us as His people, we are admonished to perfect holiness in the fear of God (II Cor. 7:1) Even the saints in heaven have a reverential fear of God (Revelation 15:4) John UK would point out it is part of the new covenant.
That being said, we at times struggle with how could God love us. (Romans 8:38-39) The Bible reminds us that Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us,.." in I John 3:16a. Thus at the times when we need our faith in love of God strengthened it would do us good to spend much time meditating upon the passion of Christ found at the end of the gospels or in passages like Psalm 22 and Isaiah 53.
Jim until you complain about left use of black churches, the attack on churches by LGBT, ACLU,AARP,etc to promote their political agenda you lose credibility on your criticism of right wing evangelicals and continue to prove you are not an independent.
Watch and pray, every president from Carter to Obama has claimed to be a born again Christian.
Tara Diddle wrote: . When a young mother visits your church with child in hand, what welcome will you give her? Will you stand with an accusing finger and say, "Go and sin no more" before letting her sit in your 'worship service?'..
Tara, I am trying to make sense out of this part of your response. Go and sin no more were the words of our Lord to the women caught in adultery that they wanted to stone. It seems like He was making a compassionate statement to me. For that matter, because sin has consequences (or as one put it, Sin will take you farther than you want to go, keep you longer than you want to stay, and cost you more than you want to pay.) is not the admonition a very caring statement to all of us? Did not the apostle Paul remind us that those who practice fornication shall not inherit the kingdom of God and should we not warn them to flee the wrath to come? "For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication" (I Thess. 4:3) is a stern warning to Christians, wouldn't getting them to stay God chastening hand be an act of compassion? Have you been to churches where they turn young mother's and their children away? Need a little help here, thanks.
Galatians 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh.
To keep things clear all believers by experience acknowledge the Scriptural teaching that we are in a daily war against the world the flesh and the devil. We, say with Paul, I die daily, and humbly pray that through the Spirit we would mortify the desires and deeds of the flesh or as Owen put it, wish that neither fruit nor root remains with us is our aim (even though full realization of that will only happen in glory) We must acknowledge we are crucified with Christ, and reckon ourselves dead indeed to sin. We are also commanded to yield ourselves as instruments of righteousness unto God because sin is not to have dominion over us.
Now if it is being insinuated we sin as believers because we can't help it. Then your argument is against the Word of God that uses action verbs like fight, strive, mortify, resist, avoid, pray against, put off, lay aside, etc. God said we won't be tempted above what we are able, not that we just can't help ourselves.
Hey John UK, hope all is well, appreciate your posting. God bless you.
How about you have you visited/attended Temple BC in Powell? or heard him in person?
My son went to the college there for a couple of years, as did brother Byron (unlike him though my son did not get a degree, just a wife) and brother Sexton and my preacher are good friends. I have been to the church and the college and know brother Sexton but am many of the thousands he has met, so he more than likely would not remember me but he would know my son. Now the dean of men, brother Evans, we know each other. Long story there on a prank that was pulled on my son. Thanks for asking. Thanks for your testimony and appreciate your posts, and pray for your ministry.
Michael Hranek wrote: Amen! Yes! It is. Hope you don't mind me asking but I was saved in Knoxville, TN and just wondered where you attend church? If you don't mind answering Oops! my bad I just clicked on the little house icon and found out. Still, please take it as encouragement it is a blessing to be reminded of that day in May, 1980 when God saved me. btw editting here I see you all use the Red Back Church Hymnal. It has some wonderful songs in it that sadly arent' being sung in too many churches anymore. If I remember correctly there is a precious song in it titled: Stand By Me
Was that in brother Clarence Sexton's church, Temple Baptist?
Hurlnes wrote: From article "Walsh called it ironic that some Christians will turn to prayer to address physical ailments like cancer, but wonâ€™t do the same when it comes to depression." Suicide is a choice made not from free will but whilst under the dominion of sin.
What exactly are you saying here, that one who is saved would not make that choice and the person making that choice is only because he/she is not saved?
Dorcas wrote: Hi Chris....observer is spot on with his recommendations. I would suggest that you read William Gurnall 'Christian in Complete Armor' wonderful little treatise on the saints warfare with Satan.
Christopher, I second Observer (good to see you post brother) recommendations but not sure would agree with our fine sister Dorcas on the word little when referring to Gurnall's excellent work
Maybe we can look at this another way. Please correct me if I am misstating this. Proof of the sovereignty of God is that He unchangeably ordains whatsoever comes to pass, except when that whatsoever that comes to pass is sin, then He has not ordained that. To deny that is to deny the sovereignty of God Thanks
1. Appreciate your refraining from labeling, just because one doesn't see things the way you do, does not make them Arminian.
2. No one is questioning the sovereignty of God or saying He doesn't do as He pleases among the inhabitants of the Earth.
3. The Scripture speaks of specific examples (ie Pharaoh, Josiah, Cyrus, etc) where God directly intervenes in human action.
4. We are not talking about how a person is brought to saving knowledge.
For all the brilliance of the people who put together the WCF you would think they would chose a proof text that supported their assertion. The problem is if you look at any (I looked at them all) of the referenced verses NONE of them teach that God ordained whatsoever comes to pass. Some speak on His dealings with the elect, some of the Lord Jesus (and people involved in His crucifixion), some of the Chaldeans, one speaks of His foreknowledge(not a good choice because David changed the outcome by what he chose), some speak of the direction men chose to walk or actions they take but NONE, ZIP, NATA (and you won't be able to contradict my statement) say that God unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass.
John Yurich USA wrote: No, I did not change my position due to changes in policy. I changed my position based upon the Bible. I am not Mormon and I don't have subjective theology. I don't know where you got the insane idea that my changed position is not based upon the Bible?
Curious defense. You own words say that the Catholics "changed that policy" and it seems that once you found that out, you changed your position also. The question is, if there was no change in Catholic policy, would your position have changed? If your position change had nothing to do with change in Catholic policy, why did you bring it up? You didn't indicate it was due to the fine admonitions of Tammy, Christopher, Tara, ladybug, Jim or s.c.. You mentioned you changed your thoughts based upon the Bible, would you be willing to share which verses helped you in making the switch? Just wondering.
To those who share John Yurich's view one can just be reminded that Bible tells us, in a passage about the 10 commandments, whosoever keeps the law and yet offends in ONE point he is guilty of ALL. Every sin we commit is a violation of the first commandment as we are essentially saying our desires are more important than God's directives, setting ourselves as the preeminent one in our hearts. Thus his view in essence states that Christ's death secured eternal life for no one. (See John 10:27-29 to correct this error)
Chirstine, still appreciate your attitude of acknowledging we all have sins we need to mortify. I hope you will allow me to ask you a question in light of the statements you have made.
We are commanded by our Lord to beware of wolves in sheep's clothing. (Matthew 7:15) How do we do that if we don't pass judgment on the people deemed to be either a sheep or wolf? Thanks, I will appreciate your insite.
I would appreciate if Christine would clarify her statement Mary committed sexual sin and the Pharisees called it as they saw. The women caught in adultery was not named, and the Pharisee did not say anything about Mary washing Jesus feet, he just thought it. If she is talking about the setup for the one being caught in adultery, then how could she say the Lord rebuked them, He just said he that is without sin cast the first stone and they were convicted by their own conscience. If she is talking about the women whom the Lord said much love for much forgiveness, then our Lord offered forgiveness for her sin and honored her faith. Surely she is not referring to Mary the human mother of our Lord.