I really do not agree with the premise of Jim from Lincoln that the KJV is hard to understand and we need a more "readable" version.
One needs to remember that understanding the Word requires more than just the exercise of human intellect but also needs a Higher illumination. The Bible itself reminds us that the natural man cannot receive or know the things of the Spirit of God.
We as Christians come humbly before the Lord as we open His Word and pray that He would open our eyes that we may behold wondrous things out of His law. This is not the work of a "simpler" translation but a Spiritual teacher. (I John 2:20,27)
May God grant us not only ears to hear but hearts to obey His sanctifying Truth because man does not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.
Me thinketh there is too much protest by article and posters
Unless there has been a flurry of Systematic Theology books written by Dispensationalist recently the vast majority of them are from the Reformed camp. They would be the ones with little references to the Old Testament, but not because they are not firm believers in it or the truths found there.
If you read the WCF or the LBC you would notice that the vast majority of Biblical references are from the New Testament and no one would say those documents are dispensational.
Large portions of the Old Testament (wonder how many could recite the books without looking) are historical in nature and while they were written for our admonition and are profitable for doctrine, reproof, correction and instruction, the narrative, for the most part, is not as conducive to a writing on Systematic Theology as say the book of Romans would be..
I believe what is needed today is expressed wonderfully in a hymn
...Beyond the sacred page I seek you, Lord; my spirit waits for you, O living Word.
May we, as the psalmist, treasure God's Word in our hearts and live it, by His grace and for His glory, in our lives.
John UK wrote: Bro Mike, Our dear brother, Unprofitable Servant..
Well thank you John UK for your kind admonition.
First, this is in no way an endorsement of James Dobson, his award or the group that honored him.
The Bible speaks of honor to whom honor is due and even mentioned those worthy of double honor. He, under inspiration of the Holy Spirit, commended entire groups of Christians (your faith is spoken of through the entire world) and closed many of his epistle honoring his fellow laborers in the Lord.
I believe all true servants of Christ will say with the apostle Paul, "But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me." making sure God gets the glory.
They would want it known they labor for an incorruptible crown from their Master above all else.
And would humbly acknowledge how short they fall of such a great Master
So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do.
May we all give honor and glory to our glorious Lord and Savior
Jim Lincoln wrote: 1. pointed out there is only about 16 or so abortions in Northern Ireland
2. Second, no, murdering pregnant women for the sake of the unborn is immoral.
3. legalism is not the way Christians are supposed to solve problems
1. per your linked article England has just a tad over 28 times the population of Ireland but had 11535 times as many abortions. Yet you contend that outlawing abortions (as they have in Ireland except for endangerment of the life of mother) has NO effect on the number of abortions?????? The facts say otherwise.
2. Murdering pregnant woman??? Who has suggested that? Are you saying that Jacob plotted Rachel's murder when she died at the birth of Benjamin? or that the women who were present at Ichabod's birth murdered his mother? (I Samuel 4:20-22)
3. Again no one has stated anything like that in a post, why bring it up???
Finally why are percentages (basically numbers) unimportant in this discussion but vital in the discussion of how many have Obamacare?
Is this a joke?? None of Jim's "fact check" sources are reliable, they all put a liberal spin on their "facts" with false presuppositions.. The NYT and Salon are the epitome of fake, distorted news.
Then one wonders about the lies Jim post when he falsely posts that Republicans and conservatives have disdain for the weak and the sick.
Chauncey Devega wouldn't see the truth if it was put right in front of his face. He didn't even mention that more are without insurance under Obamacare than with the Obamacare lite of the Republicans, just spread same old mainline distortions of the truth. The word additional is not in the partisan CBO report.
10:4 He becomes poor that deals with a slack hand: but the hand of the diligent makes rich
12:24 The hand of the diligent shall bear rule: but the slothful shall be under tribute.
13:4 The soul of a lazy man desires, and has nothing; But the soul of the diligent shall be made rich.
21:5 The plans of the diligent lead surely to plenty, But those of everyone who is hasty, surely to poverty
looks like the Republicans and Republican leaning agree with what is in the Bible.
Jim Lincoln wrote: : UPS, why would that particular clause in any abortion law --the mother's life takes precedence over the unborn-- have any effect on the other types of abortions.
One doesn't have to be a brain surgeon (although I am not sure what about "no links" is hard to understand) to figure this out Jim. If you outlaw all other unborn baby killings by child murderers then it has a drastic effect on the number done. Wouldn't you agree it would be good to see a reduction in the number of unborn child killings by 99% of the current rate? By the latest figures from the CDC that would have saved approximately 917,000 lives.
One also wonders if you read your own link? The story to which you linked to doesn't say a thing about the number of unborn child murders by abortion happen in Ulster and the only thing it mentions that is dropping is church attendance. The law (which for those who didn't check out the article only allows abortion if mother's life in danger) has a significant effect on reducing other killings.
So, back to the Kevin and others problems, let us see if you can just answer a questions.
Seeing that you broached the subject, what are you doing to help "these women" out?
Jim Lincoln wrote: It might be added that if you don't want Trump's idea on abortion to be put into law, that is, abortion for rape and incest , you had better have a social network to support these mothers with adoption services and make sure the men who committed these obscene actions are given jail time
that, rape, incest and the life of the mother, is less than 1% off all abortions, it would be good to see 99% of all abortions stopped wouldn't you agree?
These woman don't have any responsibility to make sure they have proper care? By the way, what are YOU doing? No links please.
John Yurich USA wrote: US, I attend that Baptist Church on Sunday mornings and thus I worship Jesus in truth. When I met with Pastor Steve in April to request Baptism he asked if I had accepted Jesus as Savior and Lord and trusted entirely in Him alone for salvation. And when I answered in the affirmative then he was satisfied that I am truly saved and was a proper candidate for Baptism. And thus I was Baptized via immersion(as a public profession of faith that I gave my life to Christ some 20 years ago) on 21 May after worship. In the fall I will take membership preparation class during Adult Sunday School at that Baptist Church I attend on Sunday mornings to become a member. And then I will become a member of that Baptist Church.
Do you not think your response is odd? For years you have been saying that church membership has nothing to do with salvation. But now the thing that demonstrates your salvation is your church membership in a Baptist church.
John Yurich USA wrote: . unscriptural Catholic doctrines and the unscriptural parts of the Mass.
oh so throwing some Scripture on something is kind of like a good luck charm and we supposedly have "Biblical parts of the Mass" With that type of thinking Christ should have thrown Himself off the temple, because Satan used Scripture in that temptation and that makes everything okay. God commanded the Israelites to observe Sabbaths, give sacrificial offerings, prayers, and burn incense. Note (not the only passage that could be cited) what He states in Isaiah 1
Isa 1:13-15 Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; IT IS INIQUITY, even the solemn meeting. Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them. And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.
The Mass is an abomination and affront to God, NO PART OF IT is Scriptural or brings honor to Christ. The fact that you could rationalize it for decades despite all you have been shown demonstrates an unregenerate mind.
Besides, where is the consistency? In the Jim from Lincoln world universal healthcare is a morality that should be forced upon society. If someone is against it they're just being selfish and uncaring.
Jim Lincoln wrote: Just throwing laws that people is not going to help the situation any.
So somebody should be able to come into your house and steal all you have because just throwing laws out against theft doesn't help the situation.
Why have any laws? It just someone trying to impose their morality on others and we all know that just doesn't work.
We will contact your mayor and let them know you want a drug dealership set up in the house next to yours and a house of prostitution on the other side because imposing morality through laws is just bad for society. In fact, a perfect society for you would be if every man did that which was right in his own eyes. The fact that the previous scenario is illegal in your neighborhood is probably just due to those vicious Republican law makers.
Righteousness exalts a nation, But sin is a reproach to any people.
When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.
Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil.
Here is something for consideration An all knowing God definitely knows the time of our demise, and all have an appointment with death unless they are caught up. The question would be, is the date a fixed date from the time of your birth?
Job mentioned that his days are determined and the number of his months are with God, bounds that cannot be passed. (14:5)
Yet we have the following Scriptural admonitions
Proverbs 3:1&2 My son, forget not my law; but let thine heart keep my commandments: For length of days, and long life, and peace, SHALL THEY ADD to thee.
Proverbs 10:27 The fear of the LORD prolongs days: but the years of the wicked shall be shortened.
Deut. 5:16 Honor thy father and they mother...that thy days may be prolonged (see also 6:2)
Ecc 7:17 Be not over much wicked, neither be thou foolish: why shouldest thou die before thy time
Can our actions hasten or extended our destiny with death?
John Y you purposefully twist the words that many graciously give you. NO ONE has said that church membership is a condition of salvation and you know it. You claim to have been saved over twenty years ago. Yet
John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me
We know the followers of Christ walk in the light (I John 1:7) but you have chosen to walk in and defend the way of darkness called the RCC. A group who can be summed up in Rom. 1:25
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshiped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Instead of worshiping the Father in truth you are found with those who blaspheme the One you claim to be your Savior. You studiously defend those who teach false doctrine and count the death of Christ as a thing of naught.
not a mark of a follower of Christ, but a mark of one who
.. profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate. (Titus 1:16)
Those whom God has sanctified in His truth (John 17:17) hate, not cling to, every false way (Ps 119:104)
Thus your "conversion" is called into question because you obey not the truth but diligently walk in darkness (I John 1:6) every Saturday.
That being said, another discussion involving J4J, going nowhere, occupying 17 pages and over 300 comments and none of us have convinced J4J to change his thinking. One wonders if he just stirs the pot to see how many people he can get to react to his statements.
My dear brother Lurker may disagree but I agree that unborn Levi Abraham's great great grandson, paid tithes to Melchisedec being in the loins of Abraham
Heb 7:9,10 And if I may say so, Levi, also, who receives tithes, paid tithes in Abraham. For he was still in the loins of his father when Melchizedek met him.
If that is how God views things, then certainly see how that when Adam sinned, we sinned in him as our head.
1Cor 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all will be made alive. v 45 The first man Adam ... the last Adam. Your argument against Adam's headship, J4J, is with God.
Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned
We sin because we were are born with a sinful nature, Psalm 51:5, are by nature children of wrath Ephesians 2:3
"Genesis 8:21 declares "the intent of man's heart is evil from his youth' Jonathan Edwards remarks, "The word translated youth , signifies the whole of the former part of the age of man, which commences from the beginning of life. The word in its derivation, has reference to the birth or beginning of existence."
Did you have to teach your children, J4J, to lie? Was it necessary to have lessons on disobedience?
Jim Lincoln wrote: (The Deadly Dangers of Moralism) .
Thanks for pointing that out. We sure wouldn't want to live in a moral society with God fearing people. So much better to be able to say that only 49 shot in a weekend is the definition of progress. We would hate to have laws that are moral like don't kill, don't steal, laws against sexual abuse it would be a dangerous thing. And if my unsaved neighbor believes that you should treat people right and be honest, then God forbid that I should think the same, why that is just having fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness.
CMP is not a legal entity, they have no obligation to prove PP guiltt, so your assertion is meaningless. PP admitted to selling baby parts and the Obama DOJ did nothing. Lying is immoral which is why you shouldn't quote Media Matters. This wasn't a CMP allegation it was a confession of the higher ups at PP. Your willingness to propagate falsehood doesn't speak well for you.
No Jim it is Media Matters that puts out fake ultra liberal distorted news, If you watch the news, guess what, they EDIT the videos you watch. NBC even edited a 911 call about Trayvon Martin, it is what liberals constantly do, they distort the news. The unedited videos were always made available at the Center for Medical Progress website, so they weren't hiding anything. Planned parenthood was caught admitting to selling baby parts, so it wasn't a false accusation.
You really should give some consideration to what you post and the warning of the 9th commandment. See also Colossians 3:9