There are a host of problems with how it is currently being run. They would pale in comparison to letting the U.N. control it. It could easily lead to censorship of sites like SermonAudio who don't agree with their agenda.
Conner, here is an article that deals with an aspect of wages and how they are determined if you are interested.
First, to let you know am joining those in praying for the situation you expressed in another thread. May God give you strength and grace.
Second, just to let you know, BJU is not even on my radar, if you feel it profitable for us to discuss their buildings, tuition, art collection, etc. in a critical way, have at it.
What a church pays its pastor is really none of our business, it is an agreement between those two parties. They both answer to God for the decision they made, not me or thee.
God often blessed His spiritual leaders with great wealth. Most of the good (and some of the not so good) kings of Israel/Judah were blessed by God with wealth. The patriarchs (Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Job) possessed great wealth. (see Psalm 112:1-3) If riches increase we are not to set our hearts upon them. The main thing is we are not of this world and we are to lay up treasures in heaven. If others have riches that we don't we rejoice with those that rejoice. Although God chooses the poor there is no virtue in living in poverty. Our poverty should be of spirit so that we can serve God with meekness and humility.God bless
Gay Allen wrote: a picture of target's bathroom by Jerry Stratton https://disqus.com/by/JerryStratton/ Hereâ€™s what I have so farâ€¦These business have specific policies that support people using the restroom/changing room of their choice, not birth genderâ€¦ Target Ross Marshallâ€™s TJ Maxx Paypal Deutsche Bank Barnes and Noble Starbucks Whole Foods Hudsonâ€™s Bay Saks Fifth Avenue Lord and Taylor Trump International Toys â€śRâ€ť Us Walgreens CVS? leave babylon, leave sodom and don't look back ...
if you do the research the list is bogus with the exception of Target, Ross, Starbucks, Saks Fifth Avenue and Barnes and Noble. The rest got included not because they have Target like policies but because they opposed the NC law. If you look at the list, which Gay Allen took from this website without giving proper credit
John Yurich USA wrote: Grow up. Of course it is pretty hot now for those individuals who are now in Hell. But why be serious? Why not make jokes? That is the kind of sense of humor I have.
Instead of laughing at the suffering of others and those condemned to eternal punishment, it should cause sorrow in our heart and weeping.
speaking of our Lord, Luke wrote Luke 19:41 Now as He drew near, He saw the city and wept over it,
Rom 9:1-3 I tell the truth in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Spirit, that I have great sorrow and continual grief in my heart. For I could wish that I myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my countrymen according to the flesh,
Acts 20:31 Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears.
to joke about such a herrendous act is a rather warped sense of humor
ladybug wrote: US - "If you want to sell your house to so do, God bless you, I don't believe that you can properly say that is what God is teaching in Acts for all believers to do, maybe you aren't saying that, not trying to put words in your mouth." - the text doesn't imply that we must sell ALL we have, we should help the brethren out of our abundance, and not with a sense of 'outgiving' God. For example, "at this present time your abundance being a supply for their need, so that their abundance also may become a supply for your need, that there may be equality" 2 Cor. 8:14 Giving doesn't always come in the form of money either, giving yourself and your time is also necessary to help others.
ok thanks, sorry for any misunderstanding, I believe all giving should be done for the glory of the Lord. The verse I referenced (others could be cited) states, "He who has pity on the poor lends to the LORD, And He will pay back what he has given." God has promised to repay, I was simply trying to convey that thought. (Mark 10:29&30)
ladybug wrote: US, Sadly, in our day it isn't the 'norm' to reach out to the poor.
agree the Bible clearly teaches alms giving.
Paul said, Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.
If you want to sell your house to so do, God bless you, I don't believe that you can properly say that is what God is teaching in Acts for all believers to do, maybe you aren't saying that, not trying to put words in your mouth.
Churches and Christians should always do what they can to help those in need. The Bible says to do good to all men, especially those of the household of faith. He that lends to the poor lends to the Lord. You cannot out give God.
Most pastors that I know don't live high on hog. My own pastor works side jobs. My previous pastor paid some of the church bills with his own money. I know of a pastor in New York who drives a school bus full time to make ends meet.
If you want to disdain those who preach the prosperity gospel that is a different issue. They tell people you got to give sacrificially to get a lot of money. Well then, if that is how you get a lot of money, wouldn't it make sense to instead of asking for donations they would, following what they are "preaching", go out and give away their millions to benefit others so they could get a lot of money?
No such thing as a free lunch. Somebody is bearing the cost. Even in the example of the music cd's, we don't know how much was paid to produce them and how many sales they would need to be able to make that back or if they are paying someone to fulfill the orders or even how they use any profit they might make, it might be to fund an orphanage for all we know. It is pretty simply, if you don't agree with that then don't buy the cd's. The example in Acts was due to thousands who would have normally left at the end of Pentecost but stayed on to learn doctrine. It is not the norm.
Conner, trying to help you out, if my statements come across as harsh my apologies. Unless you are a pastor, you nor I have any idea what it is like. It is not a put down it is a statement of fact. It would be like if I told a person who just lost a child, "I know what you are going through", I may mean well, but I have no idea. You are correct there are many men (and women) who don't belong in the position but that is a completely different subject. If I was being "cultic", I would tell you not to question anything Spurgeon says, I didn't say that, I said it is probably not a good idea to dismiss his wisdom.
You are choosing to criticize BJU when you have no idea what their expenses are. There are many other lower cost colleges others could chose, if BJU was exorbitantly high, they would simply lose students. Most Christian colleges that, per your example, build gymnasiums do it with donations not through tuition payments.
You are lecturing me about questioning your judgment while at the same time judging that which is done by pastors and colleges as simply done for the love of money.
We come across as envious and not rejoicing with those who rejoice when we unduly criticize others for their salaries and how they spend the money that God has given them.
There are not enough characters to properly discuss the minimum wage, it is just bad economics.
That being said would like to address Gay Allen on what he said about tithes and offerings. One has to understand that giving to the church is NOT a gift to the Pastor. You give to God. He is the one who gives you power to get wealth (Deuteronomy 8:18) and any and all wealth we have is from Him. (I Chronicles 29:12-14) We give to God and trust Him to supply our needs (see Matthew 6) The verse you quoted about the laborer is worthy of his hire is a verse about paying pastors in the ministry. (I Timothy 5:17-18) There is a reason it is called the "work of the ministry", please don't speak ill of those whom God has called to be His under shepherds, many of them work a full time job and pastor a church.
Conner, brother, you also are commenting from the lay perspective and may not understanding the need, as Jesus said, to come apart and rest awhile. We rejoice with those that rejoice. Not to lift up man, but none of us are at the same place spiritually and in Bible wisdom as Spurgeon was, it probably isn't prudent to just dismiss his wisdom. We generally don't have enough information to properly comment on a particular preacher's salary.
Observer wrote: Well, it's in the Bible bro and so it MUST be biblical! Lol Hope all's well with you and your loved ones. Miss you posting here bro. Lord bless. P.S. Did you ever get that job?
Dear brother Observer, thanks for thinking of me. Alas, the job did not come through but God has been good and met our needs. Still hoping to find full time work if the Lord wills. All is well thanks for asking.
Algore hadn't invented the internet when God graciously brought the woman into my life for my wife. The Bible says a prudent wife is from the Lord and God has blessed me with a wonderful Christian wife whom I don't deserve and for which I can only daily praise Him.
This site appears to be run by a devious character from Rhode Island where people sign up and pay for the service and when they request a date, he sends them a calendar and says here is a bunch of them. Still not sure why people would go to a health insurance site for dates. But got to keep the comments on topic.
It is a distortion of the word. If one is faring well, then they would not need what is currently called welfare. Despite over 22 billion in transfer payments the percentage of those in poverty is relatively unchanged. (although it has gone up under the current administration)
Have to also consider what the U.S. considers poverty
80% of poor households have air conditioning. By contrast, at the beginning of the War on Poverty, only about 12 percent of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning. Nearly three-quarters have a car or truck; 31% have two or more cars or trucks. Nearly two-thirds have cable or satellite television. Two-thirds have at least one DVD player, and a quarter have two or more. Half have a personal computer; one in seven has two or more computers. More than half of poor families with children have a video game system such as an Xbox or PlayStation. 43% have Internet access. 40% have a wide-screen plasma or LCD TV. A quarter have a digital video recorder system such as a TIVO. 92% of poor households have a microwave.
We are reminded in Deuteronomy "the LORD your God: for it is he that gives you power to get wealth" (also I Chronicles 29:12-14
From a strictly secular one. The "patriots" who complained she didn't put her hand over her heart should have been glad it U.S. team (although they were heavily favored)that was getting the medal and lauded her for her accomplishments at her age.
To whether the social media outcry was due to her skin color, I would have to disagree with that. There may have been some who did so for that reason but the guy who stopped his pole vault to stand at attention for the playing of the national anthem was also criticized for not putting his hand over heart by social media. (they didn't realize the military stand at attention during it). But thousands more people would have watched the gymnasts (who were probably prime time) than the amount who would have seen shot putters and pole vaulters, thus it was the event not the skin color that brought out more critics.
From the Christian angle. It is not up to the world to point out our faith. They usually do only for derision purposes. If social media criticism was a hardship for the girl, then it would be her mouth that would need to testify to how she found help from the Lord.
less than 9% of Americans have type 2 diabetes. It is even as small as 4% in Chinese-Americans and as high as 16% in Native Americans. In under 20 it is 0.25% of their population. The percentage of population that receives (and has for decades) fluoridated water is 75%. So why does this supposed link disappear for over 90% of the fluoridated drinking population and how does it vary so widely among different ethnicities? Even the publisher of the study states he didn't take other factors that would lead to diabetes into account in his study. Nothing to see here.
However, there maybe those who are concerned about the kind of water they consume. Maybe dear sister penned can put up some links on how to economically avoid fluoridated water and possibly address whether those faucet/pitcher filters are helpful.
Heard a great sermon on Romans 14 tonight, so I thought it would be appropriate passage to speak about these athletes choosing to give glory to God.
s c wrote: I just don't see how God truly gets the glory here.
Who are you to judge another's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand
For none of us lives to himself, and no one dies to himself. For if we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. Therefore, whether we live or die, we are the Lord's.
So then each of us shall give account of himself to God. Therefore let us not judge one another anymore
I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself
for the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and JOY in the Holy Spirit. For he who serves Christ in these things is acceptable to God and approved by men. Therefore let us pursue the things which make for peace and the things by which one may edify another.
Singing,swimming,playing football,etc. are not gifts of the Spirit
What saith the Scripture (Acts 17:28; Daniel 5:23)
for in Him we live and move and have our being
the God who holds your breath in His hand and owns all your ways
There are also no "celebrity preachers". (Acts 2:47; 5:15;13:44)
praising God and having favor with all the people.
so that they brought the sick out into the streets and laid them on beds and couches, that at least the shadow of Peter passing by might fall on some of them
On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God.
Take time to read the biographies of some of the great men of God like Spurgeon, Whitfield, Rutherford, even Moody and Sunday.
also in case you didn't take time to read the articles, none of the athletes were lauding the medals or the accolades or themselves, one stated, "For much of my life, my heart was consumed with the earthly treasures that did not and could not satisfy the deepest longings of my soul," he writes. "The ultimate satisfaction and joy in life is much greater than gold: it's found in those treasures in Christ that last forever."