To st Elmo, the links I put up were records from the state of Connecticut. You're the one that needs to not believe everything you read on the internet.
Solutions, I take it that means you have no locks on your doors, you leave you keys in your car, and if your loved was about to step into danger (like the path of an oncoming vehicle) you wouldn't do anything because it would show your lack of trust in God.
When God was going to flood the earth, He had Noah build an Ark first.
Brother Saint Elected Elmer I wrote: No need to fret, this is just another obvious hoax. This Parker is probably laughin all the way to the bank with the other Parker, Sandy Hook star, Robbie Parker. And the writers of this script are surely laughin at all the gullible ones that actually believe such obvious nonsense.
The Connecticut State police took over the investigation from the local authorities. Accordingly, the Sandy Hook Elementary victims were included in Connecticut's statewide records, but they were not tallied as crimes of any description in Newtown in 2012. Rather, the deaths were classified under "State Police Misc." in separate records. (Snopes)
"Saint" Elmo does huge disservice to those friends and loved ones who lost someone near and dear to them and he says it is just a laugh?? He wouldn't have such a callous attitude had it been those close to him.
pennnned wrote: they've left parents with no choice. first kid is perfectly healthy goes in for wellness check and now is seriously disabled, can't afford the doc bills, and now they have three choices, line the next one up, don't do it, or, out of being overwhelmed taking care of the first, just not have anymore children. all too common.
I would think relocation might be necessary. It is probably just a matter of time before they rewrite the law to make it mandatory for all regardless. Very sad to see.
pennned wrote: seems to me everytime an evangelical promotes vaccines...
Would you be so kind as to show that links for that? I searched evangelical promotes vaccine and found page after page of evangelical being against vaccines. Am I missing something? Thanks for the update.
s c wrote: Unprofitable,you state "...Thank God, someone cared enough for you to share the gospel." .
sc, this will be my last post on this topic. You can continue to put out all the misinformation you wish. I did not imply you were not saved, in fact just the opposite. I never said your posts should be removed. Because the forum is not about me, I choose not to address the other misinformation in your last post except to say you should find Christopher's testimony on the Hillsong Choir article around 8/7/2015 because it is diametrically opposite of your assumptions about all men and shows what you imply does not exist, the power of Christ in the lives of believers.
Our Lord said He came to seek and to save those who are lost. I am thankful there are chaplains trying to reach these men for Christ, you don't think they should, that is the bottom line.
You cannot name a false statement I have made. The only person I have ever met that thinks that football is about cheerleading is you. Nobody else does, because it is not. Logic would dictate they have more covering than a stripper. It is obvious your only care about those who choose to be cheerleaders is to condemn them, you have no real concern for them at all. If you did you would have pondered why there isn't someone trying to reach the girls also. If I had a daughter she wouldn't be out anywhere dressed immodestly.
Football is not going away. Thank God some try to minister to these players. Might I add that inner city missions minister to those who only made the thread because you brought them up. Again, praise to God that places like Pacific Garden Mission reach out to those destitute drunks, drug addicts, strippers, and woman of the street with the message of hope they can find in Christ.
I hope others remember when you post on other threads that in this one you chose to side with those who are the stated enemies of God, ("The athesist actually do Christ more of a service...") than with the chaplains who are trying to reach these young men for Christ. Your desire is that the light of the gospel should not shine in darkness but must be extinguished.
Really, sc, they aren't ministering to a football game, they are ministering to football players. If I went I would be with the crowd, the chaplains are with the team, you can't be this dense. Why do you have an obsession with strippers, if they are at the the game, they are clothed and again, hello, the chaplains minister to the players not the crowd. Is that too hard for you to understand. There might even be churches that go and pass out tracts to the incoming crowd, but the article is about chaplains whose ministry is to the players. The atheist group isn't talking about the crowd, they want those who minister to the PLAYERS to be removed. SA reminds us all the time to stay on topic, and you have yet to do so in any of your comments. Finally, I challenge you to back up your rhetoric, where have I EVER defended the football game in any post on this article?
sc This is not a bar (the ministry isn't to the people in the stands, and no football program serves their athletes alcohol), brothel (again nothing like that going on during practice or game), or strip club. You need to have a burden for sinners to be reached with the gospel that excels your pet peeves. You sound like the Pharisees in the cited verses.
Perry White, in this case, has a crummy point. We all know they are not going to abolish the football program, so it is meaningless, and he obviously doesn't live in South if he thinks people here don't help each other out, including the poor and disadvantaged.
The atheist group are misrepresenting the Constitution with their alleged wall of separation between church and state, but that is a matter for a different discussion.
It is sad to see those who name the name of Christ, Who came to seek and to save those which are lost, side with the atheist group and desire to the light of gospel be removed from a place they term paganistic and idolatrous.
Here we have preachers who have a burden to see these young men come to know Christ and serve Him. Yet the preachers are being condemned because of the place of their ministry. Some would rather take away the work of the chaplain's ministry (that is what the atheist desire so siding with them is saying the same) because of the despised group with which they work. Seems like I heard that before.
"And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners?But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick. But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance." Matthew 9:11-13
John Yurich USA wrote: Since morality comes only from the 10 Commandments and atheists reject the 10 Commandments then atheists are without morals.
The RCC violates the 10 commandments. They make their own rules and throw out God's, that is a violation of the 1st commandment. They have graven images, violates the 2nd (don't say they don't bow to them, I watched it happen at a Catholic wedding where the couple knelt down in front of the statue of Mary and offered a prayer). They have penances, a violation of the 8th and 10th commandment. They have obviously violated the 6th commandment. Every mass is a violation of the 9th commandment. I am sure they list could go on, but the Scripture says if you fail in one commandment you have failed in all (James 2:10).
So, the question is, according to YOUR statement that morality only comes from the 10 commandments, does that mean the RCC is without morals?
Cult spotter wrote: The cult of Gil Rugh claims don't preach morals. But the Bible says that the law is a school master to bring us to Christ. What is the law of God but the strict moral requirement of God? Jim is a blind follower and a troll. I suggest you go find another bridge Jim because there are no goats here for you.
Gil Rugh didn't say don't preach morals, Jim from Lincoln did. Gil Rugh said don't preach morals as a way to heaven. Gil Rugh even has no problem with moral laws (I listened to the sermon) it is simply a Jim from Lincoln interpretation. He holds it because of the so called "Christian right". To Jim, anything conservative is not right but wrong. That is apparently the way "independents" think. He has no issue with the liberal crowd imposing their "morals" on society, just so those on the conservative side sit in silence and obey them that have the rule over them. It what happens when your viewpoint is dominated by political thinking. He has kind of a French Revolution mentality.
pennned wrote: Not used to hearing these things? I know, my generation has been quiet far too long. Capitalism was never profitable to my loved ones. Its been one kind of usury after another. You know, I can't even get certain things fixed, call the company and they've outsourced to India and they can't speak my language.... then I meet families where they are in dire straits because dad lost that particular job, fixing computers or something. they get it.
I would say sister pennned, if it wasn't for capitalism we would have no knowledge of each other. Also, your ideal society could only exist in a capitalistic society. Nobody saying it is perfect, if it was we wouldn't be having this discussion. The main problems we face are due to government intervention and regulations. I actually quite agree with your doomsday scenario posted in another thread. I would place the blame on the government not the economic system.
I am certainly, not trying to downplay the suffering you or those you care about go through. I would say, it is a matter of perspective.
Penned, capitalism works on a system that is mutually beneficial to all parties of the transactions.(obviously not true of slavery) We spent our capital on whatever device that we use to post here. No one forced us to buy it and the profit benefited the manufacturer and the product benefits us. Pretty much what you describe is simply greed. I don't see greed and capitalism as synonymous. I see your examples as pure greed not pure capitalism, there is a difference. If I beat and rob you, my gain of your assets is not capitalism at work.
If you look at the context in Ezekiel 16, it is addressed to Jerusalem (speaking of Judah), v 46 elder sister Samaria, (10 Northern tribes) v48 Sodom thy sister (which was already identified as Samaria) I am sure that there was plenty of abuse of the innocent in Sodom as they wanted to abuse the two angels, but Ezekiel is speaking to and of Israel.
The first century Christians practiced capitalism not communism.
Note Peter's words to Ananias, was it not your own, did you not have power over it.
Thousands of Jewish people showed up yearly for the feast of Pentecost. When it was over, they left.
In Acts, three thousand got saved and they stayed in the area to be taught by the disciples.
Several extra mouths to feed and people to house.
The church met those needs voluntarily by selling lands and possessions.
The rich young ruler had a covetous heart, and our Lord was trying to show him that as he professed to keep all the commandments. No other person was given the same instructions and I would doubt anyone here has done that.
The Sodom that was condemned for not strengthening the poor was a reference to Israel not the one destroyed by brimstone and fire.
All that we have is a gift from God and thus belongs to Him. As Job said the Lord gives and takes away, bless His name.
I Chronicles 29:12a 12 Both riches and honor come of thee --v14 14 But who am I, and what is my people, that we should be able to offer so willingly after this sort? for all things come of thee, and of thine own have we given thee.
We should be diligent to lay up treasures in heaven, for where our treasure is there will be
I do want to address a couple things from previous ones
Here is a list of "neocons" who supported the war against Saddam Hussein.
John Kerry, John Edwards, Dick Gephardt, Bob Graham, Howard Dean, Tom Daschle, Joe Biden, Bill&Hillary Clinton, Madeleine Albright,Sandy Berger, Nancy Pelosi, Jay Rockerfeller, Harry Reid, Ted Kennedy, Algore, etc.
The next one I will blame on myself for not communicating why I said what I stated apparently in a post that you continually reference. When I stated that I did not have time to look up your links, it was because I didn't. I left my house at or before 6 in the morning and didn't get home from work until after 9:30 at night. My schedule at work is much less pressing (only about 11.5-12 hours from departure from home to return) but getting ready to move is both taxing and time consuming. You may not have noticed, but on a not that long ago post of yours, I advised you not only did I follow all your links, I followed the links within the links of the articles you cited.
Stevenr wrote: If we are going to talk about addictive behavior that influences violence and family problems; let us discuss Professional Sports. I can give verified story after story of gratuitous violence as a result of sports. (Two years ago there was a 'man' (I use that term loosely) who 'spiked' his infant into the wall when she wouldn't stop crying during the Super Bowl. I can name dozens of other stories of the same ilk... And that isn't even considering the fact that it keeps people from Church, incites lust and promotes gambling. But Call of Duty is bad? Hmmmm.
Hey brother Stevenr, trust all is well with you in the show me state.
I would think that we would agree with Scripture that every one will give account of himself to God. We don't park cars. as previously mentioned, because all the bad stuff that occurs due to road rage. Peoples actions stem from the heart. (Mark 7:20-23) You are more than welcome to rail against sports and the Superbowl, it is not my purpose to defend them. The people who watch sports or drive cars who have no such outbursts are in the millions. Just saying that the horrible actions of the guy with the baby or the untold others are the responsibility of the individual not the event that "set them off."
John Yurich USA wrote: Of course there is economic trouble in New York State because the demon influenced liberals are running things. Every state ran by the demon influenced liberals has economic troubles.
just a heads up John Y, the article isn't about New York state.