Don't need to read old books. The bible is my authority. If you carefully examine the Bible and compare it to the United States from its inception up until now, you will find that it does not pass the taste est. We may have had some of the trappings of christianity but it wasn't biblical.
[QUOTE]Frank, come on. If we were true to ourselves, we would freely admit that this nation has and never will be under God. That cannot ever be true of any Earthly nation. Slavery, Jim Crow, etc. Were these Godly things?
[AUTHOR]Frank Dombrosky[/AUTHOR]"One nation under God"??? NOT ANYMORE!!! Oh, for God to raise up a powerful man like a prophet of old to preach His holy Word in Washington, D.C.! The ONLY thing that will save America is a mighty revival of the Bible. We MUST see the error of our ways and the sinfulness of our sin and return to the Lord, the Foundation, upon which this nation was built! Otherwise, God will finally turn from America as we have so foolishly turned from Him.[/QUOTE]
Man, from some of the posts here you'd think that Dr. Paisley was the Pope, himself. He is a man. He doesn't speak or act infallibility. Repeat after me, "As a Christian, I realize that God is in control of all things" That means even who the leaders of this world are appointed to be.
I don't hear from many brethren, especially some of the Free Pres preachers expressing what we should be doing and that is praying for God has obviously ordained. Does that commandment extend only to those leaders we like? Seen the very same thing in my own country. Brethren were quick to not pray for Clinton, but Bush.. If Bush is the Christian that people make him out to be, then he certainly didn't merit our prayers as much as Clinton who had an "Outward form of ungodliness."
Is it possible that the grace of God might be shown in what Paisley has done? What a testimony of forgiveness he has provided the world.
No one knows a man better than he, himself, expect of course his wife..and God! Apparently Mr. Paisley admits pride was one of the obstacles that may have impaired his joining up with Gerry Adams. Years from now (if the Lord tarrys), we will probably all wonder what all the fuss was over!
Ed, sadly I'm in agreement with you about the "sad departure from many aspects of the Word of God by many of their (FPC) ministers. Still, there is a remnant of them that by God's grace who have remained extremely faithful.
I've previously mentioned John Greer. I believe that God has shown him much grace by keeping him primarily focused on the ministry and work of the Savior rather than trying to change the political system of a fallen world.
Wayne, one of the things I have heard several FPC ministers recent imply/suggest is that the physical nation of Israel has a special standing outide of Christ, and that because of how God dealt with them as a nation in the past. God deals solely with Man based on the merit and work of Christ and Him alone. That is the end times message that all ministers-Free or otherwise--should be proclaiming.
Just as we need a sinless and all powerful mediator (Christ) between God and man, we need one between 2 warring parties. Bush as the leader of the most powerful nation that the world has ever known is by default that man.
Some of the things or persons that the Free Church has been involving itself with lately has really been disturbing.
As so many "churches" continue a prophesized slip into apostacy, hope and pray that it will remain faithful to Christ.
Nevertheles, by God's grace, John Greer is one of the most doctrinally sound and faithful of Free preachers, a servant who labors quietly and takes great pains to keep the Christian's focus on Christ and the unbeliever's on the consequence of his unregenerate state before God. My prayer is that he would continue to do so.
Bottom line is the average citizen is bearing the cost of this war. I'd invite you to further research and do the math on just how much money the independent corporations and contractors are making on the sale of munitions, body army-you name it. War indeed is a very profitable business.
At the end of the day, all wars are the outpouring of sin and directly attributable to the fall. Man can try to justify it but at the end of the day the only person who wins is Satan. How many souls on all sides of conflicts throughout the countless ages have gone down to the pit for country and flag.
I mourn for Saddam not because of his physical death, because we must all physically die (peacefully or violently) but, rather, because his soul is probably under God's wrath for all eternity. In that sense, his fate is no more different than those foolish enough to publically rejoice in the death of a fellow human being no matter how wicked he may have been. It's a good thing that Christ died for the ungodly, because we all, just a Saddam apparently is, would be under the righteous judgement of God.
I think the lesson is that, unlike God, nations act out the only way that they can and that is in sin. Hundreds, if not thousands, of black and white South Africans were killed during the Botha regime, but the United States and the UK remained tolerant of that ungodly regime because it was in "its national interest" to do so. If it weren't for the oil, the West would have continued to turn a blind eye to the atrocities committed by Saddam.