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1/14/13 1:38 AM

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Kyle wrote:
original audience.

You are continuing to ignore the key flaw in your argument and you do yourself no credit.
Try focussing on the authors and their attributes - and NOT the audience.

Until you meaningfully engage with your key flaw my characterization (in my words) of your argument stands.

1/13/13 9:40 PM

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Kyle wrote:
and by the same logic

You claimed to apply the same logic (although actually you failed in that) to both the Bible and the Constitution.
Your thinking is invalid and illogical because you failed to account for and recognise the different authors and natures of the documents in your reasoning - I am happy to keep posting this as many times as you need me to.

By the way it is quite pathetic that you bluntly repeated a request for me to respond to a question, and then when I had space in a response to directly address your question you then dismissed *your very own topic* as a rabbit trail.

1/12/13 10:45 PM

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Kyle wrote:
You're going off on a rabbit trail,

Nonsense. I am going to the root of your error. You have a problem with logic.

You repeatedly confuse
-the two different authors of the Bible and the Constitution and
-the different natures of the two documents and their contents.

In so doing, you are in grave danger of idolatry.

1/12/13 7:19 PM

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Kyle wrote:
However, from a strictly legal standpoint, the US Constitution does protect internet porn as free expression, even though the Biblical principle, as you say, makes it sinful.

and is God the author of sin? No!
Well, then let's be careful not to conflate
1. The Bible, which is God given, PERFECT, cannot err, and is our sufficient rule for faith and practice,
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2. A document written by fallible man, who cannot see the end from the beginning and would be horrified to see their words being used to peddle pornographic SINFUL materials.

Kyle wrote:
and by the same logic

No! you are conflating perfect the Word of God with the fallible words of men.

The Bible is reliable.

The Constitution is not.
As has been said before:

Temperance wrote:
change it!

1/12/13 6:41 PM

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Again,
"If the constitution did not create the rights and principles it protects, where did it find them?"

Please be specific with regard to the US Constitution's free speech protection of internet porn.
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Kyle wrote:
Speaking of straw men, I asked you about whether or not the Bible prohibits internet porn

Please see the clarity in my response again:-

Temperance wrote:
The Bible forbids all forms of sexual immorality and lust.

1/12/13 5:26 PM

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Kyle wrote:
The constitution did not create the rights it protects. It merely affirms them.

Kyle wrote:
It affirmed the principle, the same way the first amendment protects free speech on the internet.
The Bible didn't predict surgical abortion or internet porn. Does that mean it doesn't address them? It's about principle, nor necessarily it's expression in codified law.

Principles:
The Bible forbids all forms of sexual immorality and lust.
The US Constitution protects internet porn.

If the constitution did not create the rights and principles it protects, where did it find them?

Kyle wrote:
No, i don't concede anything of the sort. I denied that it was anachronistic, and you accused me of a straw man so I dropped the argument.

No, you did not deny that your practical extension was anachronistic. You cut and paste anachronistic out of context and applied it to a general principle, arguing against something I had not stated. A clear case of strawman argumentation.
I was not aware that you had dropped the argument. You simply failed to respond when an apology and request for forgiveness would have more appropriate in the light of the 9th commandment.

1/12/13 10:18 AM

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Kyle wrote:
What about my extension is illogical

Do I take it that you concede that your practical extension is anachronistic?

Tell me, what do you see as the logical limits of your own argument?

1/12/13 1:36 AM

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If you genuinely wish to have a discussion please respond to my actual comment accurately, and not by strawman argumentation such as this.

Kyle wrote:
Principles cannot be anachronistic. They are eternal.

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Kyle wrote:
I might believe your statement if you advocated for gun control laws to pivot on the type of gun carried.

You mean like this:-
http://columbiaacs.blogspot.ca/2007/11/right-to-bear-ye-olde-arms.html

1/12/13 12:57 AM

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Yes, I agree in principle with your right to carry a musket.
I reject your illogical and anachronistic practical extensions.

Kyle wrote:
It affirmed the principle, the same way the first amendment protects free speech on the internet.
The Bible didn't predict surgical abortion or internet porn. Does that mean it doesn't address them? It's about principle, nor necessarily it's expression in codified law.
Laws requiring fee men and women to disarm or be thrown in jail violate the principle that the second amendment affirms. And yes, it existed long before 1791.

1/12/13 12:33 AM

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Kyle wrote:
The constitution did not create the rights it protects. It merely affirms them.

So the constitution affirmed the right to bear semi-automatic weapons before they were invented? Strained logic indeed.

1/12/13 12:19 AM

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Kyle wrote:
By the way, the constitution is the highest human law in this country. You should submit to it

or change it!

12/17/08 9:16 AM

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"restaurants, bars and liquor stores, which serve taxpayer-subsidized alcohol late into the night during parliamentary sessions. Now the undignified acts of some MPs have brought calls for a sobering-up."

Hey cobber fancy a tinny before we legislate on the alcohol consumption laws. Hic!!

Would the member for said constituency please try to stand up?