quote wrote:
Spiritual wrote on 10/6/07 6:52 PM “I no longer sin”
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
(1Jn 1:8)

Michael Hranek wrote:
The context I have been writting of is NOT a divorced individual whose spouse is unmarried.

Michael Hranek wrote:
"I don't care if your desire is to have a Christiam spouse...you must be wickedly carnal to desire anything but celibacay"?

Michael Hranek wrote:
Yamil
Are you missing the point?
The brother described (previously) did not put his wife away...she was the one that did the "putting away".

Here, all arguments come to an abrupt end, and every vain reasonsing, a termination. It is patently obvious, and beyond all doubt that Christ forbids both the spouse who puts away, and the espoused who is put away from taking up a second marriage. As the faithful Sister Abigail uttered below, "The only God-ordained partnership in marriage is the first marriage—they are one flesh. All others are adultery. Reconciliation of the marriage is the requirement—unless the deserted mate chooses to stay single."

Jessica Dawson wrote:
Spiritual, You and I may not agree that persons should abandon marriages and remarry. Yet even Jesus refered to the woman's spouses as "husbands". He did not use insulting language towards the woman, or even language that would have been permitted under The Law (practicing judgement).

But how very different the case of religious apostates and outright hypocrites. Christ has a very caustic tongue for them, and is unrelenting in his pitiless criticism, and rightly so. Paul, speaking of the Judaizers says point blank, "I wish those who unsettle you would emasculate themselves!" Gal. 5:2

Walt wrote:
However, since God does approve of a lawful remarriage following a lawful divorce...we must conclude that a lawful divorce dissolves the marital bond between a husband and a wife as if the husband or wife were dead to one another"

Dr. Yamil Luciano wrote:
The simple truth is that it is nonsensical and unbiblical to commit the act of divorce in order to fix the sin of divorce.

Yamil wrote:
Two wrongs do not make a right. I would not make him commit the sin of divorce again so that he can return to his former woman.

I opened this post with these preliminaries to demonstrate, that those who have remarried are in an adulterous relationship before God and there is no evidence that God will recognize it as a valid marriage because of their pleas for forgiveness. Musn't they first repent of this adulterous relationship by renouncing all ties with one another, annulling the legal certificates, and making amends with their former, and therefore their ACTUAL spouses or else remain in a state of chastity from thenceforward??

Abigail wrote:
You take one verse that Paul wrote to annul the many other Scriptures that teach the opposite. Paul is stating that if a mate leaves, the other mate is not held responsible and is not in bondage to sin and death because of the separation. The only God-ordained partnership in marriage is the first marriage—they are one flesh. All others are adultery. Reconciliation of the marriage is the requirement—unless the deserted mate chooses to stay single.

I'm glad you brought up the thrice-married and those innumerable whores who have even surpassed this unconscionable number of nuptials. A whore by any other name is still a whore, regardless of whether they are legally "married" or no.

Randy wrote:
The reader can discern between my post and the comments by the one who calls himself Spiritual.

Duly note, also, that the one poster, with all the force of his jesuitical casuistry, attempted to defame the Holy Apostles, Matthew and Paul, with blasphemous smears against their uncompromising characters. He shamelessly accuses them of making exceptions to Christ's plain and clear commandments and of encouraging the divorced to join themselves in illicit unions under the cloak of "remarriage." The height of heresy, the crown of sacrilege!!!

Randy wrote:
Likewise Mark and Luke set out the divorce regulations with no exceptions while Matthew (and Paul) gives the exception.

St. Matthew reads, "I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except on the ground of sexual immorality, makes her commit adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery." Matt. 5:32

Whoever, marries a divorcee, irrespective of the legitimacy of the divorce itself, is guilty of adultery and will inherit the fires of Hell, no execptions. I am not about to squander God's time by reading the unwholesome writings of twice-married apostates. My company is among the excellent, the pure, and the noble both in literature and in life.

Lurker wrote:
Why don't you both just take your heresies and communicate with each other via email and quit fouling up the rooms of SA?

Lurker wrote:
The Holy Spirit is the author of all scripture. What's your point?

Lurker wrote:
Nice pious and flowery words but they are nothing more than a misuse and abuse of scripture to cover your error; an escape from the tangled web you have ensnared yourself in for you do not believe Paul or his testimony posted by "quote".

savedbygrace wrote:
Ceasar(Spiritual???),
Once again, Franklin was not a deist "at the time" of the standstill during the Con. Convention. His autobiography(first 50 yrs. and he lived to be 84)quote that you mentioned was for his teen years. What could have been said of your beliefs when you were 15 or so? Just 23 yrs. ago someone could have claimed that I was a fearful, burden-laden cult member in the church of Rome.