Kyle wrote:
the world is not "civilized", and it will never be.

Kyle wrote:
I would just look it up. I don't have the definition memorized.

You are confusing civilisation with a perfectly sinless society.

Christians believe that God ordains government.

Kyle wrote:
Salesman, your rebuttal leads me to believe that you don't know what a straw man argument is. Get a dictionary. The world is not civilized. If post-Katrina New Orleans or post-earthquake Haiti is not proof of that, then you're blind.

Definition
describes a society or country that has a well developed system of government, culture and way of life and that treats the people who live there fairly

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/civilized_1

For an expert in strawman argumentation such as yourself, it is notable that you opted for two catastrophes that impacted negatively upon the operation of government and the rule of *law*. Thereby demonstrating that the normal situation is civilised.

Please provide your definition of "civilized" since the dictionary definition does not suit your purposes.

Kyle wrote:
all forbidding me to be armed in public accomplishes is victimizes me without making the perpetrator suffer a bruised conscience.

Kyle wrote:
the world is not "civilized",

Lurker wrote:
The opposition to Obama's current attempt to appease the Sandy Hook massacre aftermath is not so much about what he wants to accomplish with additional gun control measures but rather the method he has chosen to accomplish it.... executive order.

Kyle wrote:
Protect them, the world is not "civilized", and it will never be.