Cody writes "...tell me where in the bible does it say that a Christian must leave the Catholic Church to be saved..." The Bible wouldn't need to say that. It's a given just as the Bible will not say that a Christian should come out of a wiccan church, or, as others have written (very well)-mormon church or a jw church,etc. And anyone who truly trusts in the One true God would have enough fear of Him that they would not play a hypocrite or turn a blind eye to the truth. And "J Y" ,"himself", has previously posted that he goes to the RC Church because he prefers to and would absolutely not want to attend an evangelical church.
All idolaters "love" their idols. Jason Cooley on SA addresses such,specifically,the sports type. Sports and the Christian REVISITED.From whence come wars... on youtube is also a good one to listen to for those who can handle conviction. disclaimer: not for the proud in spirit
The stupor bowl being on the sabbath isn't the real issue. Very few observe "the sabbath" in a way that is proscribed in the Bible any way. The real issue at hand is the idolatry of sports and the sin that is so much part and parcel to them. And before anyone accuses me of being a legalist, they need to know what a legalist is not. A legalist is not a person who points out sin that is an inherent part of an activity. Watching men in tights,surrounded by,essentially,naked women,which celebrates arrogance and the pride of life and caters to the very base appetites of those who watch,is not an activity in which Christians should even partake. Skipping part of the bowl just to watch it later is not any more Christ honoring than if it's just watched at the church building. If it doesn't honor Christ at the church, it doesn't honor Christ outside the church either. I just wonder what a congregation would do if some women came in dressed like cheerleaders and stood around the periphery of the sanctuary. Maybe the preacher could dress in his skin tight pants too.When he makes a point that tickles the ears of those who are listening,they could cheer him on,play some devil music and then he could do some nasty gyration and point to "God".
The article begins "...A high-profile alliance of conservative Catholics and evangelical Protestants..." They've lost all credence there;evangelicals and catholics ought not to unite for any cause. And homosexual marriage is just further judgment on a nation which has embraced inappropriate heterosexual sins/lewdness. And sadly, a nation which has "sacrificed" its children to the idol of lust. Hopefully, Christians will just say no to the upcoming stupor bowl and all of the other programs that wink at impropriety.
The dead religion "pope" needs to dump his "father/vicar of Christ" title for starters before he can be taken seriously. As far as "J Y's"..."...It is not required for salvation for one who is trusting in Jesus alone for salvation to leave the Catholic Church and unite..." THIS IS ONLY A RECORDING ...lol ...not sure that there is a rational being behind it
I wouldn't know whether or not John Todd was a deviant or not based on the "evidence" that I've seen. he may have been or he may have been made out to appear that way.I know that those who are very influential often times don't like the truth,especially,if it discloses something which they would rather have had kept secret.Who can believe much of anything when illuminati is a variable? He does seem to have had a handle on the spirit behind rock music. Jason Cooley,by the way,did a excellent sermon on such on SA. What's more incredible than the longevity of rock music (not sure that they really have any newer stuff though)is the phenomena of rap music and CCM- both annoying styles; one like thugs ranting and the other like whiny women and men trying to woo their boyfriends or girlfriends.
Ladybug,I have seen as much.I know that,for the most part,that they like to keep their abusive ways secret and going to the ombudsman is oftentimes in vain. I'm glad that you can be in there as a Christian and let God use you as He leads you.You can make a big difference.God bless you!
True Holy Bible Christian, excellent comments! Dolores stated..."can't get into worship service with the band and music that doesn't make me feel worshipful. One or two songs they sing are really good..."
Worship is ongoing and not contingent upon feeling.Most carnal "Christians"? love the CCM and depend on it to get into a "worshipful" state of mind...which is just a manipulated state of emotionalism. I might also add that it is of no surprise that a lot of the churches who stay hush hush about the way that their "worship" divas dress (as some have pointed out in previous threads)are also the same churches which incorporate the CC music into their services.
Dolores said "...like so many on here that hate and are angry at those that disagree with their beliefs).." You didn't answer my first question and now I will ask you again,to whom are you referring? Yourself? Those who are exposing error on here are not angry,just obedient and steadfast. And,like the BG reading stuff,those one liners can be off from God's word too. If one cannot judge actions,then one cannot correct their children,participate in a judicial system and in your case (as you have "judged" those of us who expose error on this thread),then you,so as to avoid hypocrisy,ought not to make judgments.
Klem and Frank,thank you both for your comments.Tragically,very true. It's difficult to even try to make visits at the ones near me. They go out of their way to prevent anyone from trying to extend a hand to those gentle souls in their nursing homes. And,sadly,a lot of pastors have no interest in visiting unless it's to have a singing group "entertain" them for an hour.I'm sure that there must be a special place in hell for those who do not repent of having mistreated the weak and vulnerable.
Thank you,Jim,for the link. What you say,Dolores, about things which anger us controlling us is true.I'm just not sure how you are making the application on this thread. Please distinguish between being zealous for the truth and being angered. Hopefully, you are not angry as there is no need to be unless it is for having been deceived. I know of a woman who works in a local store who was deceived for many years by one word faith preacher,specifically,the Copeland guy. She did come out of that,which I thank the Lord for and I respect her very much for having the integrity to do that.I'm sure that we have all had to set aside some ideas which we found out countered the Word of God. I used to be duped by the holy days. We are all learning,hopefully.
Well stated Augie! Please correct me if I'm in error but I don't recall reading of the disciples or Apostles dealing with a worship team. Is that even in the NT? I do know that way too much emphasis is placed on the music and I would go so far as to suggest that most churches would not have a congregation if it wasn't for their band...sadly. Hi, Dorcas! Ladybug has been doing a very fine job of presenting,comprehensively,the facts. I'm beginning to think that those who do not have ears to hear may be RC themselves. Maybe that's why they choose to ignore the data so as to not have to face excommunication or have to face the fact that they have been contributing to such deception.
Keep presenting the facts,ladybug. Truth always trumps lies. Some die hard hard heads may not get it but maybe Franklin Graham will before his time on earth passes. Those who are inclined to give on and around the 25th day of the 12th month might want to also consider that there are another 300 plus days to do so and that there are other ways to contribute what God has given them than to organizations which support popish causes. Maybe a local gospel mission or food pantry for starters. We don't have to be limited in our giving to the overrated/over publicized institutions. We can just look around us-always someone to bless.
Carl,I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt when I stated "naive" and shame on you for suggesting that I have not prayed for the Grahams. Now,thanks to ladybug's very comprehensive and laid out (again) word for word BG response, you can either appreciate the truth and benefit there by or ,since her post is very informative, read it and be ignorant (willfully)...however,after reading the post, being "naive" would no longer be applicable. And others who object to the presentation of facts, when they conflict with their idols, need to work on discerning what the difference is between exposing error and what constitutes an offensive remark.
Carl, you too are naive/ignorant in regards to the Grahams? Have you never heard his interviews with Larry King and Robert Schuller? Those who do not respect them (Grahams) are the Christians who have listened to them and have familiarized,even written to them so as to confirm their incorrect doctrinal stands and alliance with the RC church. It is best not to speak against workers of righteousness,as you say...you make my point. "Workers of righteousness" is the qualification. And please note that you are in company with "John Y" who calls himself a Christian, will not disclose to his RC church that he "believes in faith alone in Christ alone" which would make him an anathema there and who attends Mass regularly- the "offering up of "Christ"-their perpetually emaciated,inadequate savior"...and "the well known BG supporter on here who either refuses to listen to Graham's interviews and/or address the issue with her pastor who either refuses to further address the issue. Ignorance may be bliss in the world but it is should not be embraced by Christians.
Following your reasoning,John,you could just as easily attend satanic or atheist churches. It might be better for you than the RC church; at least,the satanic and atheist churches are not disingenuous as to where they stand. If you find my recommendation problematic, you might have to rethink the church attendance argument which you repeatedly give.
We are what we take in. If we feed our flesh we will have a much more difficult time resisting/fleeing temptation. The truth sets us free. If we live by it, we don't have to be a slave to sin or our lustful passions.