O that the Church In the west ( including my self ) would gain some of the faith and boldness that our persecuted Brethern and sisters around the world have, Still the old story of Cain and Abel is played out, the church being killed by the seed of the serpent.
My the Lord bless the Church in North Korea, during its time of great tribulation.
"Detroit native Keith Ellison, the first Muslim Congressman, told the Free Press Friday that he used the Quran during his oath of office because the Islamic holy book helped influence the founding fathers of America."
ho ho Iam loking forward to reading the posts on this one, from my little cousins in the US of A
Because you see Gibberish the main contention between advocates of the Gifts and those who are cessationists.
Boil down to one passage of Scripture, which states that when that which is perfect is come that which is in part shall be done away with.
The pentecostal says that which is perfect is Christ, the cessationist says it is the full cannon of Scripture.
But you tell me if this is a heavenly language, Why would it cease when heaven comes to earth, Surely this is when a universal heavenly laungauge ( if there was or is such a thing) would begin not cease.
No my friend , what Paul is saying here is if you have the gift to speak in a foreign language ie French, But no one could interpret, then you where speaking myteries to the rest of the congragation, and only you were being edified.
By the way , is this a heavenly language or what ?
Gibberish my frien , if all these extra revelations these people have should be written down and added to the cannon of Scripture. Because if they are true and if they can get revelation straight from God then it is on a par with the word of God.
But we know ( or we should know ) that this would be utter madness.
That is why this whole people getting word from God for other people is not from God for then he would be adding to his word, and then we would have to listen to the ramblings of Joseph smith.Russell Benny Hinn and the rest of these heretics, and add there writtings to the bible.
Gibberish this is the common defense used by the pentecostal, its to fear you into agreeing with them, they use the same tactics when anyone critisizes their false Prophets, they thewn tell you not to touch the lords annointed.
To say that Spurgeon , and Edwards exercised the petecostal Gifts is complete lies, the pentecostal movement believe speaking in tongues is the sign that someone has been baptized by the Holy Spirit, Neither of these men held to this.
C H Spurgeon "Visions and such things belong to the infancy of the Church. Nobody thinks of putting a post to support an apple tree which has been there for the last 50 years. In fact , it could hold the stake rather than borrow support from it. When a ship leaves the docks and passes down the river you will see it towed out till it reaches the sea. But that same vessel will soon spread all her sails , and with a heavenly breeze to bear her along , she will need no tug to tow her to the desired haven. The Church of God today is a tree that need no support of Miracle or vision, a vessel that has braved 2000years the battle and the breeze, and will still, till Christ comes, out ride every storm. you have the word of God which is better than visions.
" All the visions in the world since the days of Miracles ( days of miracles past tense) Put together are but mere dreams after all and dreams are nothing but vanity.
This dosnt sound like a pentecostal to me, clearly from just these two quotes we see Spurgeon was a cessationist.
"That seems to depend on who you talk to." Well GG talk to me I live here and so has my family for OVER 400 yrs ( I guess longer than yours have lived in the US ? ). And can you really advocate punishing young protestants today in Ireland , north or south, for something that might or might not have happend 400 years before they where born ?
And as for the fact or should I say myth that Cromwell was some sort of murdering machine, this is simply not true. Cromwell was a leader of an Army the rules of engagement in his day were universal no quater given ( again you can debate the rights and wrongs of this ) it was the same the other way.
In wexford and Droghada , the opossing Armies ( who by the way where made up of prodominitly english soldiers ) where given ample chance to surrender, they failed to do so . So the out come was that they where wiped out which is what happened to any defeated force in any country in Europe.
and as a matter of fact In cromwells Campaign in Ireland for the first time in modern war, every single grain of wheat, every morsel of food that was taken from Irish farmers was paid for, this had been unheard of before.
Another fact for you , any members of Cromwells army caught Raping Irish women ( rape and plunder where also part and parcel of warfare) he put to death.
Again G,G THROW OFF THE ROMAN myths of history. it is because of this false propaganda that 1000's of people in this tiny province have be murdered over the last 30 years.
if it wasnt it certainly paints a good picture of me, I sometimes forget the spelling of even the simplist words, I could spell a word right 99 times out of 100 and then forget it completly, and this goes for the simplest of words.