Not everything on the Internet is sound, so you beg the question in calling it "information." The term "Puritan" dates to the 16th-century English Reformation; it's an anachronism, or at least misleading, to use it in any other context. And there was much diversity of doctrine among Puritans; some were Anglicans, some were Dissenting Reformed, while others were Arminian. There were also more bizare types like Quakers, Levellers, & Fifth Monarchy Men.
By now I am used to Christian writers, who are supposed to tell the truth, disseminating blatant fibs about church history. As for example, "The Trail of Blood," a particularly egregious Baptist example (and I'm a Credobaptist). By & large, secular historians do a better job, though they may spin it negatively.
As I said, Anabaptists do not date themselves prior to the Reformation. Here at least they have some integrity (though much of their doctrine I consider unbiblical).
Where does this article say anything about Anabaptists dating back to the 1st Millenium, as you claim? From what I've read, Anabaptists as such only date to the Reformation time frame. Not even Anabaptist historians say otherwise.
The other sects you mentioned had little to do with Anabaptism; the Albigensians in particular were pretty far out (though not deserving a brutal Crusade, either). The Waldensians in particular became Reformed after a delegation visited Geneva.
That we don't know, by Biblical stds, if anyone today is a Jew. All we have is their word for it. Jesus is the only Jew whose pedigree back to Judah can be confirmed. Other NT Jews are so by Scriptural attestation.
For those who think there'll be a Third Temple, this problem must be solved. Nehemiah made it clear that Levitical descent must be provable; otherwise, no can do. And Kohen genes aren't mentioned & thus don't count.
Strat wrote: Why should they interest me ? what am I going to do about them ?
Because YOU spoke about haters of "God's people" going to Hell. If you feel that strongly, shouldn't you be able to identify God's People before fulminating about their persecutors? But this you refuse to do, & brush aside my question.
At least Jim suggested DNA, but unfortunately that's not a Biblical method. Read Nehemiah 7 instead, unless there's some escape clause I missed allowing men to dream up their own methods.
VT wrote: What an interesting thread, nearly all men were posting on the how or how not to dress for corporate worship.
Well, it *is* the subject-matter of the article, which has good food for thought.
Agree with "a tyre" that we should never aim to draw attention to ourselves, whatever our sartorial choice. And modesty applies to men as well as women (more of a problem back when men imitated court fashions; even Puritans copied Louis XIV's girly hair).
Mike wrote: I fret not so much about the + change, but the excuses for them do annoy. How dumb is it supposed we are?
Perhaps I'm mistaken in memory, but I do not recall hearing oilco PR saying that, but market observers, who indeed will say anything to reporters (and investors?) hungry for explanations. But yes, even a fool, when he keeps silent, is considered wise, & counted as prudent.
I think the oil biz gets a bad rap from all quarters, though I admit their disaster mgmt.-skills could use improvement, and indeed, when they deserve it, they should be sued for damages. Anyhow, they sure make a handy foil for enemies of market capitalism: the perfect villain in a dirty but necessary business. Everyone wants cheap fuel, but no one wants refineries or pipelines in their backyards. And no one wants higher Fed fuel taxes to encourage conservation, far better than stupid CAFE stds, if people are really serious about saving fuel or reducing emissions.
But they're not. I'm not convinced many Americans are all that frugal with fuel. I'm amazed how often I see people parked with their engines idling for minutes @ at time, fiddling with their smart phones. This wastage completely baffles me. Is it too hard to turn off the ignition?
Mike wrote: But when crude price increases, the reflected time at the pump is very short, if not immediate.
Inconsistent, I admit, but I don't fret about it; obviously, price fluctuations in general suggest that market feedback does work, over time. Who noticed or cared back when prices collapsed & oil workers were laid off? Why would a real collusion/monopoly bother to change prices at all? And I'd rather have Robber Baron price-fixing than a socialist monopoly like Pemex; by & large, I don't think American corporate monopolies were as evil as Progressives claimed. Consider AT&T's track record in their heyday, for example.
Tip: The car industry encourages drivers to buy fuel with higher detergent content than the EPA[!] requires. See TopTier for the best brands (Pemex not listed). Maybe it's only a ruse, but if you can find an inexpensive retailer among these, what have you got to lose?
I think the reason people whine about gas prices is that it's in their face every time they tank up. Income taxes, however, seem less controversial because they're taken from the paycheck up front; if folks had to pay an annual bill instead, they'd go ballistic.
Christopher000 wrote: when the price of a barrel of oil plummets but gasoline prices remain the same?
You criticize what you do not understand. The international oil business is not as simple as you think, something lost not only on rabidly paranoid, anticapitalist Progressive Marxists, but many conservatives & Christians as well. It takes time for changes in crude prices to reach local gas stations, & there are many other factors as well like refinery capacity. Something I recently learned: fuel formulation varies seasonally & by jurisdiction. That must make life interesting for refinery managers.
Study up before you make sweeping accusations against a whole industry.
This also bespeaks misdirected spiritual priorities; there are far worse things in life than an expensive tank of gas, which BTW, is still far cheaper in the US than in Europe. All in all, despite the general economic mess we're in, I'd say we're still pretty blessed here. The Fed fuel tax has remained at 18% for years, though State levies vary considerably.
Gas was around .30/gal during the period when the supposedly villainous Seven Sisters oil companies predominated (before OPEC). This was why Americans could afford to drive gas-guzzling Yank Tanks.
Strat wrote: Your ancestors are are not my concern,i have no regard for geneology,mine or anyone else's
Then I suppose the genealogies of Christ in Matthew & Luke don't interest you, either. To even talk about Jews is to be concerned about genealogy, since that's where the term originates: descendants of Judah. Very well then: who are they now?
Strat wrote: Those who hate God's people don't seem to have any trouble finding them, defining them....or killing them.
Well I seem to have trouble finding them, even in churches, so I would appreciate an answer.
Everyone talks about Jews, but few seem able to define what one is, at least in a way answerable to the Torah. Even those who identify with Judaism seem unable to agree on an answer, if Wikipedia is any indication: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_is_a_Jew%3F
Strat wrote: Gods people have always been hated by those on their way to Hell.
Supply a precise, useful definition of â€śJew,â€ť such that one can tell the difference among living persons & regulate admission to the Temple's Court of the Israelites (assuming it'll ever get rebuilt).
William S. Sutherland wrote: The Creation Museum and the Ark Encounter are simply means to counter so much disinformation put out in other museums and the public schools which promote the LIE of EVOLUTION.
A model Ark is not an argument, so it'll not serve the purpose you state: refuting the contention that Genesis is a myth. For even if indeed all species could be carried in Noah's Ark & the thing could float as [speculatively] designed, unbelievers would still say it's a myth because their minds are darkened & will believe â€˘nothingâ€˘ we say, not necessarily because they think it's impossible. Though I grant it may persuade simpletons.
Besides, skeptics could still argue we have no way of knowing if this fake Ark, fully loaded, could survive Flood conditions, which probably involved very violent sea states (e.g. Rogue Waves) if continent-changing geological catastrophes occurred as Creationists claim. This is why I think the unknown, possibly extinct Gopher Wood had to have been very strong, and the Ark might've needed a deep keel & high freeboard.
The RMS Queen Mary, carrying thousands of troops, came within an ace of being capsized by a Rogue Wave during WW2.
GSTexas wrote: What is she playing the victim for? She was a consenting adult.
Perhaps she wants her pound of flesh after Phillips was outed & she was humiliated. The likely media circus will probably suffice for this. â€śMaximum personal satisfaction as measured in U.S. Dollarsâ€ť â€“ Dave Barry
But I would think his wife would have moral grounds to sue instead; imagine what she & the kids are going through. Two problems, however: 1) Many Christians forbid divorce, so she may get shunned by zealous friends; 2) No-Fault Divorce can work in the adulterous husband's favor: We know of one where the wife owed alimony despite the [jobless] husband having an affair!
So either way, she gets the short end. America, what a country!
Breaking News wrote: In a bombshell lawsuit that exposes the shocking ways women are treated in the Quiverfull movement â€” the patriarchal program popularized by the Duggar family and its TLC reality show 19 Kids and CountingÂ
Since the girl was in her majority, I have doubts all those counts will hold up in court. As with many broken relationships, it'll probably come down to â€śHe said, She said.â€ś
Unless they can find a good mix of anti-Christian & Arminian Fundy jurors. Then maybe they'll have his head.
penny wrote: â€¦ I've certainly met the homeless, spoken with the downtrodden, prayed with the outsider, many had normal lives, and then suffered a spouse who betrayed them, cataclysmic health event etc,â€¦
Thanks for telling us what a righteous person you are. Be sure to remind God, too (Matt. 7:21ff).