Jim Lincoln wrote: XRC, I should point out that Mike Gendron knows of which he speaks, He was a Roman Catholic the first 30 years of his life. Thanks to the grace of God he's now a Christian, and does an excellent job on why a person should Come out of the Catholic Church.
That's one year more than I was. Does he find Catholics under every rock like you do, Jim?
harrowing wrote: From Article; "‚ÄúThere‚Äôs no question that this militant push toward complete gay-marriage acceptance is leading to a form of persecution against Christians in America,‚ÄĚ he said. ‚ÄúSure, Christians are not being beheaded or having their churches blown up, as they are in the Middle East, but they‚Äôre being blatantly attacked for their opposition to gay marriage.‚ÄĚ" "Kengor said the attacks are ‚Äúshocking, especially in a country founded on religious freedom and for which religious liberty is the first freedom in the Bill of Rights of our Constitution.‚ÄĚ "‚ÄúAnd it‚Äôs coming,‚ÄĚ he noted, ‚Äúfrom people who claim to be fighting for gay marriage in the name of ‚Äėtolerance‚Äô and ‚Äėdiversity.‚Äô‚ÄĚ"
Within the man's statements above lies some of the very reasons for the problem. Once the term "gay marriage" is allowed, esp when used by those upholding marriage in its true and only sense, half the battle is already lost. Words mean things. There is marriage, period. Why do those who believe this continue to make it a rights issue by recognizing the "gay marriage" terminology? What is "complete gay-marriage acceptance" anyway? Is a less complete acceptance better? Pitiful.
NoName wrote: "‚ÄúThese narcissistic politicians will do anything to gain power and prestige. I suppose that Democrat candidates will vie for gay support also. It is sad when that becomes the deciding factor in electing a president to run this once great nation.
Can you see where America is headed? Can you see where we are leading other nations? Can you see that the ultimate ‚Äúman of sin‚ÄĚ will elect a Sodomite ruler - the Antichrist. Little antichrists will give all their support to Sodomite presidents/prime ministers/kings/princes, etc, then the Sodomite Antichrist."
What think ye?
I think ye this:
1.The deciding factor in electing presidents is not, nor can be gay support, by the sheer lack of their numbers. Media publicity doesn't convert to votes. On the other hand, millions of Christian stay-at-home non-votes is a deciding factor.
2. America is following the other nations in this area, not leading. It's one reason we're slipping.
3. If it's the president's job to run the country, it's only in a similar way that it's a babysitter's job to mind your children. It isn't the babysitter's fault that Mom and Dad pay little attention, or kid themselves as to what good parents they are.
penny wrote: Anyone have any concerns for the topic at hand, where we are being flooded with those that seem to be conflictory to our way of life? Wayfarer, any words of wisdom for us? Mike of NY? Others? I certainly see this as a great concern especially when seeing the masses on food stamps in a jobless market with a dragging currcency, you'd think there would be a desire to get americans back to work, and also thinking of that --- ,.... anyone else concerned about these things?
Well penny, it seems if Franklin Graham says something, even if true, it's bad because he said it. That being said, there is no desire to put people back to work. That's how policy, tax and otherwise, has been designed. Working people are not so dependent as non-working, and it looks like there is deliberate attempt to wreck this nation. It's called deconstruction. Something must be deconstructed in order that something else replace it. Make people needy enough, they might accept anything. Postmodern "Christians" do the same thing in church world, in order that the church be replaced with something else, something more...culturally sensitive. Politics and churchianity, both antichrist. Prophecy is unfolding. The King is coming.
Cody wrote: They shouldn't prosecute this man as they would a murderer who just ran in and killed this man was following orders the orders of his superior officers he didn't come up with the idea it was Hitler's
When he stands before the Lord, he won't be able to offer the "devil made me do it" excuse. His right responsibility at the time was to disobey his government.
John UK wrote: One of the biggest problems today, in deciding what church to attend, is that many of us have so fine tuned our doctrines and practices that our cut off line has reached so high as to make the vast majority of churches rejected as far as we are concerned. It's called "tick my box" syndrome. And different ones on here have different ticks in different boxes. I don't know if she has changed over the years, but Mourner used to have a tick in the box which said "I do not want to attend a church which holds to the current WCF, it has to be the original one or nothing". Is there ONE church in the whole world which would meet that criteria? And then there is the box which says "must be KJV". That narrows the field down. And then there is "women must not pray in the prayer meeting". And vice versa. "Must be reformed". Which of course must be broken down again to "must be WCF" or "must be 1689 Baptist" or "must be Belgic" or "must be Heidelberg". "Must be IFB". "Must be Methodist" "Must belong to Southern" "Must be Pentecostal" "Must be charismatic" Must have modern CCM music" "Must allow jeans and T shirt". must must must........ Oh dear, oh dear..... ---
Dissenter wrote: If the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, then why do Christians vote in the first place? Rubio will not get my vote. I abstain from this practice. Why should I put my confidence in any man's flesh? It is a curse. It is not a mandate. So why vote?
Premise error. We are not at war with those we hire to do governing. They are supposed to be ministers of God to thee for good, remember? If God has graced us participation in the process, then participate. It's not putting confidence in flesh, but in hiring someone to do a job. Why not participate in the life God has given you? He gave you your flesh and a mind as well as a spirit. If losers get in office it shouldn't be because you didn't vote.
Jim Lincoln wrote: Ah, Mike of NY, you want Hillary elected? Say then I can't say nasty things about her! Rendering To Caesar---A Biblical Perspective On Government ---
Of course you can. It's only your historical misunderstanding of who Caesar is in this country that misleads you. The head of the executive branch of the US gov is not Caesar, never has been. Until you realize this, you won't get rendering to Caesar right.
Think of the benefit if you do get it- if a Repub gets elected, you'll be free to say all those nasty things you're fond of!
pennned wrote: well I think we both know.... when constitutional law which reflects the individual worth of man from a power higher than the state, that is Almighty God, which we see in freedom of speech, religion, assembly, rght to self protect and fair trial, is replaced with the new foundation of atheism and paganism.... what you get is an unjust society where the innocent are unprotected from the destruction of the strong. as in roman law where the patriarch father gave the thumbs up, baby survives, thumbs down baby was destroyed. a society based on contract and self advancement rather than covenant.... there is a higher power and a higher value, there was something of beauty to the statue of blind justice, that is that a man does not have value according to his collective membership to a minority group or guild, but rather his value comes from the fact that he is a human being created by God, and no man has the right to take that life "thou shalt not kill"...
Christian wrote: --- Would we rise up in protest if children were told to write from a Christian's point of view? I think not.
If we start from a faulty premise that there is no difference between Islamic and Christian, between false and true, that it is just a matter of "point of view," there might be reason to ask the question.
KK wrote: Rand Paul seems to be a bit of an isolationist and his father is way out there in his thinking. ‚Äď ‚Äď ‚Äď In my heart of hearts I just don't believe Rand Paul is the right man to be president of the United States
Not that Rand Paul necessarily fits the description, but we might ask is it better to be a bit of an isolationist, or to continue getting involved in so-called wars on terror where no enemy has been declared, and no victory is sought? Where fighting increases and decreases, but nothing changes, or things get worse? Terrorism is a tactic, not an enemy. What is the point of a war on a method? Shedding the blood of our own for nothing is criminal. If Paul is against it, good for him.
Jim Lincoln wrote: --- Women need Obamacare or a national health service so they don't think of abortion as an option.
Nonsense, and an example of double-mindedness of one who is constantly pointing out the lack of Christianity in others. For your info, abortion is an option under Obamacare, with over 1000 plans that cover elective abortion. In those places where it is not allowed, it will still be subsidized by the taxpayers.
Jim Lincoln wrote: Since this is the latest one on Hillary, I will put this here. Strange, that I have to be the one to help out the Republicans on this thing. But as I said I like to see balance, in the presentation of politics. While Republicans have their rogue gallery, so do the Democrats. we certainly need more selection in the presidential race that is off into the mist of the future. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-32358268 (Will a 'feared' book damage Hillary's presidential hopes?). So, where is UPS and Mike of New York when you need them! This will show them I am no great fan of Hilary either.
From the news: "In a radio interview Sunday, Princeton University ethics professor Peter Singer argued it is ‚Äúreasonable‚ÄĚ for government or private insurance companies to deny treatment to severely disabled babies."
To say such things seems to reveal a severely disabled moral character. Maybe he should seek treatment. Hopefully it won't be denied.