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Joe the Protestant wrote:
No one should take this guy (lie detector) seriously. Let him rant on. He is bent this way. And only a sovereign act of God can shake him loose from his false delusions. His posts exemplify the very thing he is arguing against.
He seems to have it all figured out and under control. The only thing he lacks is to find a tree and hang on it till dead while he stands perfect before God in his own right.

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Sickened wrote:
So then, if color is not the issue, let us - White & Black Christians do all we can to cause the media to see that "Christians" are being attacked even though the perpetrator is racist. The Christian community needs to see this as an attack on the family of God and our country.
I'd recommend you get a grip on your emotions so you can think clearly. The media is reporting a crime committed on the basis on race because that is what the evidence demands. This sick kid didn't kill 9 people because he hated Christians but because he hated blacks and he went to a gun free zone, a church, to carry out his evil deed. However, not all media is silent on or suppresses the fact these 9 people were God fearing Christians.

That said, Neither you, me or anyone else should get our marching orders of what to think from the heathen media nor should we expect them to get the things of God right. Blood bought Christians know these 9 victims were precious brothers and sisters in Christ and their innocent blood will be avenged by God who will judge those without the household of God in His time. We of the household of God need to pray God comforts the family and friends who suffered such great loss..... not accuse each other falsely.


News Item6/21/15 12:37 AM
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Sickened wrote:
I am afraid that that young racist represents a majority of WHITE Christians here in America. Many will cry "Lord, Lord." But they are deceived thinking they love God whom they cannot see and support a civil (misnomer) war with those they can see. Those who are called Christian. Those whose skin color is the same as Simon of Niger, and our Lord.
Jesus was black? You must be party to the Black Hebrew movement or Black Liberation Theology.

Does it matter the skin color of our Lord and Savior? He is called the Lion of the tribe of Judah. A Jew is one whose circumcision is of the heart..... whose praise is of God. No mention of skin color. In Christ Jesus there is neither Jew nor Greek...... male nor female..... believers are all one in Christ.

Yet you bring race into the subject of our Lord and Savior; the Word made flesh. White Christians are waging war against black Christians whose skin color is the same as our Lord? So who is speaking like a racist?

And your "our president" comment. He is attacked because he is a LIBERAL, not because he is black. Most conservative Christians (white and black) would vote for Ben Carson if he were the Repub nominee rather than Hillary. So again, you are the one coming across as racist.


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Blissfully blind leaders of the blind.....

Mat 12:26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?


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Dorcas wrote:
Greetings to you brother Lurker....trust all is well?
A blessed Lord's Day to you both.
And to you, Dorcas. All is well and thanks for asking.

Blessings.


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Mourner wrote:
Wasn't Paul's separation from his mother's womb, God's eternal election? Ephes. 1:4
I'm glad my questions served for your meditation, sister. I'll not attempt to answer your question on election but will offer some more relevant scripture for you to meditate on.

Isaiah 49-50, while spoken by Isaiah, is spoken both in the voice of Paul upon his calling and the Lord. Specific to the voice of Paul is Isaiah 49:1-6, 50:4-11. It's an invaluable read in understanding what happened immediately after Paul's calling.

Notice Isaiah 49:9 is quoted by Paul in 2 Cor 6:2 and Isaiah 50:4 is an allusion to Isaiah 28:11-12 quoted by Paul at 1 Cor 14:21.

Blessings


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John UK wrote:
Okay bro...
Romans 7:9-10 KJV
(9) For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
(10) And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
"I was alive", says Paul. But he was mistaken, he was not alive but "dead in trespasses and sins".
Oh dear, John! That's a slippery slope you're attempting to navigate. Not like you.

Instead of correcting the HS who inspired Paul to write what he did, wouldn't it make more sense to spend some time figuring out why your understanding of what happened on Damascus Road won't reconcile with scripture as written?

. . .

GS, from and earlier post:

Prevenient grace is a Christian theological concept rooted in Arminian theology [...] It is divine grace that precedes human decision. It exists prior to and without reference to anything humans may have done. As humans are corrupted by the effects of sin, prevenient grace allows persons to engage their God-given free will to choose the salvation offered by God in Jesus Christ or to reject that salvific offer.(WIKI)

Bear in mind that there are several variations which should raise a red flag that none are grounded in truth.

As for me, end of discussion.


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John UK wrote:
No need to apologise bro, I took no offense, just puzzled.
But if you do not wish to continue, then neither will I.
No, I don't wish to continue but I am curious how you would answer the questions below. One of us are not understanding Paul and if it's me, I'd like to be shown my error from scripture.

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John, It appears I have insulted you and for that I apologize.

Rom 7:9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

When Paul was alive without the law; in what covenant state would he have stood before God?

As for Paul's credentials, yes, all you mentioned. All self righteous works of the law, filthy rags, dung (Phl 3:8). But.......

Rom 7:7-9 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead. For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

When did Paul die and by what means?

There is a difference between knowing the law, as Paul being a Pharisee did, and having the law imposed by God. This is what Paul was talking about.

That said, this appears to be yet another dead end discussion so I'll say no more.


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John, not to belabor the point.

Prevenient grace is a Christian theological concept rooted in Arminian theology [...] It is divine grace that precedes human decision. It exists prior to and without reference to anything humans may have done. As humans are corrupted by the effects of sin, prevenient grace allows persons to engage their God-given free will to choose the salvation offered by God in Jesus Christ or to reject that salvific offer.(WIKI)

This quote is one variation of prevenient grace. But, if we are to believe Paul's conversion was a pattern for all who would thereafter believe unto eternal life (1 Tim 1:16), none of these claims existed in Paul's conversion..... especially his sin being subdued by grace so his freed will could choose aright, or not.

He was alive before Damascus Road meaning he stood in God's grace; he was blinded meaning he came under the wrath (law) of God (Rom 1:18); he died by means of his sin awakened by the law; he knew he had sinned against God because the law made him guilty. (See Rom 7). And he remained in this state of wrath till he received the HS at the hand of Ananias. Only then, after he was obedient to the law of faith (Deut 6:5) and justified, did he access by faith the grace of God by means of the indwelling HS. Rom 5:1-2


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John UK wrote:
Oh, Bro Lurker, I have just thought of something you might be happy with, and which is certainly biblical. Instead of using the term "prevenient grace", how about if we used the expression "prevenient action", to describe the work of God in the heart of the sinner prior to him calling on the name of the Lord and getting saved?
Acts 9:5 would be a typical proofer.
I like that, John.

But, if we think about it, here is what was going on with Paul which caused the pricks in his heart:

Rom 3:19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

Rom 7:7-9 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead. For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

So, it wasn't grace at all but the wrath of the law, the schoolmaster, which turned Paul's heart to God in obedience.

Gotta go, brother. Think on these things.


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John UK wrote:
Grace is God giving us what we do not merit.
Mercy is God not giving us what we do deserve.
I agree with your definition of mercy but I can't think of a biblical reason to agree with your definition of grace. 2 Thes 2:16-17 does not require that grace be given before the promise Paul mentions is received. In fact, if the everlasting consolation and good hope through grace is understood as the promise of eternal salvation, then it becomes impossible to read prevenient grace into the verse.

Common grace...... indeed the rain does fall on the just and unjust during an age of grace. We read about that during the time Israel enjoyed their inheritance..... the enemies of God dwelling amongst Israel enjoyed the same blessings for a time.

Ponder this. Rom 1:18 the wrath of God is (present tense) revealed from heaven..... the chief of sinners died on Damascus Road. But God had mercy on him. Was Paul granted grace before he received the HS at the hand of Ananias? No. He was not saved from the then present wrath of God till the day of salvation commenced (2 Cor 6:2) when the darkness was past (Rom 13:12).

Grace is a covenant state of being as is the wrath of God.

edit..... someone post so I can post again, please.


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Brother John,

To Israel God said.....

Deu 7:6-8 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:

But because the LORD loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.

And John wrote:

1 John 4:19 We love him, because he first loved us.

Now, find a verse which states or even implies God set grace on anyone before they were saved from the wrath of the law. It isn't in there, bro.

Saved from wrath by grace through faith. Wrath and grace are 2 states in which all stand before God.


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John UK wrote:
Any who do not believe in the grace of God going before, preceding, prevenient, have a faulty view of scripture, and most likely are HyperCalvinistic in their theology.
You will have to include me in "any", John.

The state of grace is the antithesis of the wrath of God. It's one or the other. Can't have one foot in grace while the other is in wrath. One is either alive or dead....... quickened or reprobated...... under the covenant of peace (grace) or the covenant of death and condemnation (wrath/law).

Those who push this doctrine and its many forms (RCC for example..... the spark of life innate to all mankind which enables freewill to chose God) are confusing grace with love.

Jer 31:3 The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, saying, Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee. (Cf. John 6:44)

Lovingkindness is most often translated mercy or kindness but never grace.

No disrespect to you, Mr. Spurgeon or anyone else. I just don't find the idea biblical at all.


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Christopher000 wrote:
Women lust as well. They just might not be as obvious about it as many men. This country cators to those same lusts with 50 shades of Grey, Chippendales, Magic Mike movies, male strip clubs, and the list goes on and on, and on. I don't like men always being targetted and viewed as beasts who are foaming at the mouth every time they see a woman.
I agree, Chris. Also, there is a difference between lust and attraction. It's on the order of the use of money vs. the love of money, drinking a little wine vs. drunkenness or eating a meal vs. gluttony. God made men and women to be attracted to each other for obvious reasons. That innate mutual attraction doesn't end at marriage but the urge to act on it (lust) outside of marriage should.

Considering Get Real's past experience, it is understandable why she would think as she does. But, while painful, regrettable and a lasting emotional scar, her experience was an exception..... not the rule.

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pennnelope wrote:
Orwellian statement of the night award right here.
remember you all, Palestinians do not live in Palestine, and don't even exist as a people although as a people they are all "evil", even though they've been living there for centuries, their home is somewhere else... somewhere we don't know, because we call them Palestinians, but they don't live in Palestine and they don't belong there.... and Palestinians are anti-Semites even though they are semites but the westerners coming into Israel are semitic even though they are from Europe.
wonder if anyone ever thought to let the bible define our terms?
"For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
"But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God."
Romans 2:28
Its enough to make a head spin.

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1517 wrote:
We can say all need salvation and God doesn't see race or ethnicity, but then neglect to reach out to the poor (regardless of color/ethnicity), then are we presenting the gospel?
Quote from the article:

"He suggested that the "typical evangelical Protestant Christian" thinks the Gospel is limited to how one becomes a Christian. [....] But the Gospel is not only that. It is that, but it's more,"

More? Racial reconciliation is part of the gospel? This is what set a sour taste in my mouth, 1517.

What this professor is promoting (and obviously doesn't know it) is the *indiscriminate preaching* of the gospel to all who are in Adam. That is entirely biblical but apparently doesn't sell books.

So, take a secular word (race) and change its meaning to fit the bible and then cherry pick the bible to make it sound like a biblical truth. Call it the rest of the gospel and publish it.

No thanks.


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"Not many Christians know what they're talking about when they discuss racial reconciliation and their reliance on the modern social construct of "race," as opposed to the Bible's approach to the term, which leads to an "incomplete Gospel" "

Incomplete gospel? The power of God unto SALVATION. Anything added to that makes it another gospel.

From God's perspective, there are 2 types of people......... those who always belonged to Him and were given to the Son with the command to lose none........... and all the rest. Biblically, race is a non-issue.

This is one of the present problems with professing Christianity..... too many man-made experts spewing rubbish like this and the lemmings swallow it up as biblical truth.


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NB wrote:
MS-
I would hate to see you leave as I appreciate your comments and thoughts... And even tho I haven't been posting for a long time, I have been casually following the SA news and browsing the comments for a couple of years. If theologically sound posters leave, then who wins? The offensive posters? Then this news forum will cease to be a place to "pick each others' brains". Many types of people find their way to SA to listen to sound teaching via the sermons. Ultimately, they find their way to the news site. You are an asset. Don't let a couple of bad apples ruin the whole bunch!!!
I agree. I sure hope MS, Dorcas and any other tempted to leave because of SteveR's filthy mouth will reconsider. I have no idea what ails him but it is certain he has not the mastery over the old vile nature.

Can't have a picnic without a few ants.


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Nameless wrote:
JIM,
This one's for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3hNtPwXhdY
"An Alex Jones film."

Regarding Geller's stunt, Paul said it best:

1Co 6:12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient:

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