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struggle on wrote:
People who are lukewarm towards their religion want a convenient religion. And such is the state of American Christianity. Because American Christians are lukewarm in their devotion to Christ, they have made Christianity into a religion of convenience. Christianity isnow convenient to your lifestyle - whateverthatmay be - in which you can pick and choose those parts you like and want, and reject those parts you find unappealing or displeasing. We have accommodated ourselves to this world. Our consumption for ease and materialism is no different than the world's. Our consumption of MEism is no different than the world's. We have created theologies which justify our accommodation. We have created a convenient Christianity. You can now be a Christian, and love this present world too. You can pick a Christianity which fits YOUR lifestyle.But Jesusand the Scriptures call us to something far different.
overcome don't go the easy way
And where does this "convenient Christianity" come from......... the bible or the pulpit? Lay the blame squarely where it belongs. 2 Tim 2:3-4

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solutions wrote:
The idea that the Bible supports the concept that every tom, dick and harry should be armed to the teeth with his assault rifle by his side is so far from reality that it is completely inane.
To suggest that everybody should wake up in the morning and strap on his/her assault rifle before going out into the community is the same thinking as lynch mob justice.
Christianity for centuries has sought to build a decent safe society to live in for all especially for our children. Therefore those who seek to encourage people to arm themselves on our streets are unchristian and pure evil.
If you cannot trust in God to provide you with life for one day in the community HE has placed you in - Then you cannot trust God whatsoever.
The 10 Commandments of Logic

2. Thou shall not misrepresent or exaggerate a person’s argument in order to make them easier to attack. (Straw man fallacy)


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Brother E wrote:
So loyal and faithful to man?
It's something you wouldn't understand, Fudd, since you hate the military which defends the freedom you take for granted. But they do it anyway, despite your ingratitude. Hence, Semper Fi; always faithful to their duty in spite of ingratitude.

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Dave wrote:
None of my business cos it's not my country, but why would anyone support trump ....?
Hello Dave, I can't say I'm a Trump supporter but he is among a short list of 4 Republican (conservative) candidates I am watching closely......... Carly Fiorina, Ben Carson and Ted Cruz being the other 3. All outsiders of the political establishment except Cruz.

Like many, I've had my fill of professional politicians who will say anything (lie) to get elected and deliver nothing but their legacy. Trump is not afraid to say what's on his mind, not afraid to say the Washington establishment are idiots, not afraid to be politically incorrect and for that I respect the man. Doesn't mean I agree with everything he says but I believe he will deliver on what he promises and there can be no argument that this country needs a real shaking up before we slide off into the abyss. We're almost there.

By the looks of many of the comments below, I'll probably get some flak for saying this...... so be it. I sat on my hands 8 years ago because I didn't like any of the choices. I'll not do it again. I'll not let the heathens decide who will rule over me and my loved ones.


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Brother Saint Elected Elmer I wrote:
Not here killer. I'm not the pro-killing in the name of Jesus State/White-Supremacist, you people are. I need access to admin functions as I am a competent moderator, and I am here to speak truth and to defend it, so you Christ haters and lovers of man and his kingdoms and his inventions should find another website to spew your antichrist words and doctrines.
You a moderator? You're a real hoot, Fudd. Are you related to SteveR?

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Unprofitable Servant wrote:
"Brother Elmer" you are the one who has railed against SA on multiple occasions. If you don't like the web site, find a looney tune one that agrees with your views and post there. There has to be a Kick Out Our Kermlin Society website out there someplace you can post, they seem to be everywhere.
I sure hope Fudd doesn't have an arsenal of weapons. He seem the unstable type who would shoot up a theater in a fit of rage. The man is sick and needs help, both mental and spiritual.

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nat wrote:
Tongues as a private prayer language is a language given by God.
Doesn't it bother you to launch an assertion you can't establish from scripture? Where is your prooftext? Dave called you on this a couple days ago and yet you continue unaffected.

Now I'm calling you on this. Quote your biblical proof for your statement above.


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nat wrote:
1 thess 5v19 to 22. Do not quench the spirit
do not despise prophecies. test all things and hold fast to what is good.
It is unfortunate that you think the spiritual language God gives us unintelligent dribble.
I don't think, I know.

Zeph 3:8-9 Therefore wait ye upon me, saith the LORD, until the day that I rise up to the prey: for my determination is to gather the nations, that I may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even all my fierce anger: for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy. For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the LORD, to serve him with one consent.

Anything which needs an interpreter, which Paul calls barbarian, does not fit God's definition of a pure language.

1Co 14:18 I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:

Paul was born a Roman citizen. What language do you suppose he spoke that he also called barbarian? Greek? And what good would that do for God's people who didn't understand Greek? None........ so he also prophesied (spoke the language of God's people). Paul was bilingual, not a gibberish speaker.

There's much more to this than a handful of cherry-picked verses.


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nat wrote:
And what is stammering may i ask? I think that is a speech impediment not a 'barbaric language'.
You think? Who cares what you think. What does the original language say?

??? lâ?ag, law-ag'; a primitive root; to deride; by implication (as if imitating a foreigner) to speak unintelligibly:—have in derision, laugh (to scorn), mock (on), stammering.


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nat wrote:
Isaiah 33v19 is speaking about the land of the majestic king. That Pele will not be afraid but be fierce. They will be bold in their speech and not stutter or stammer. Their speech will be wise.
This isn't speaking about supernatural gifts or the evidence of being baptised in the spirit. I'm sorry but it is out of context.
It really doesn't bother me if you believe speaking the barbarian's language is a gift from God. Getting this right or wrong won't affect one's eternal fate.

But, I get REALLY upset when you twist a prophetic text into oblivion and brush it off as "not in context". Where in the world did you come up with your perversion of the verse? Every version available to me reads that "stammering" is what God called the barbarian's language....... what you blindly call a gift from God. As for "not in context"...... Paul made it contextually relevant by quoting Isaiah 28:11-12. Stammering, in those 2 verses, and stammerers in Is 32:4 is the same as tongues in 1 Cor 14:21. You need wake up and deal with it.

I'm done. I will NOT attempt to reason from scripture with someone who willfully perverts and ignores the word of God relevant to the discussion and regurgitates the same baseless assertions over and over ad nauseum.


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Michael Hranek wrote:
Oops! Nope.
OT circumcision was preformed upon a male child by his parents (now technically a full grown man could have chosen to become a Jew and therefore to endure the dicomfort of circumcision, not have it preformed on him by his parents)
NT Believer's Baptism (Immersion) of adults and those old enought to understand to Receive Jesus Christ as Lord and be identified with Him upon a profession of personal faith in Christ is therefore quite different from baby baptism (sprinkling)
You obviously take OT circumcision literally............ no spiritual significance at all. Do you also take OT circumcision of the heart literally?

Deu 10:16 Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.

I respect your opinion, Michael, and, as I'm sure you expected, disagree but lets not let it detract from the present discussion of speaking in tongues.


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nat wrote:
P.s baptism of the spirit is not fruits of the spirit. Fruits are grown and cultivated during our work with Christ add we become more Christ like. Like a fruit growing on a tree. but gifts are instantaneous and are recorded in 1 corinthians.
NT baptism is the same as OT circumcision. There is circumcision (baptism) of the flesh (John Baptist's baptism) and of the heart (baptism of the HS). Everyone who is born again receives baptism of the HS. It is the answer of a good conscience toward God (1 Peter 3:21). Has nothing to do with speaking like a barbarian (Paul's words, not mine).

You make a distinction between fruit of the spirit and gifts and indeed there is. When He ascended on high He led captivity captive and gave gifts unto men......... "And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:" (Eph 4:11-12).......... prophets prophesy, not speak the language of a barbarian.

You have yet to deal with Isaiah 33:19. Paul made it relevant by quoting Isaiah 28:11. The heathens Isaiah was writing about spoke in tongues. A gift from God emanating from the HS? Or a barbarian's language?


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nat wrote:
Fact: the baptism of the Holy Spirit was evidenced- it was SEEN by surrounding people. It is certain that he saw these people speaking in tongues. Because, searching the Scriptures, there is no other evidence mentioned by which you can determine whether someone was baptised in the Holy Spirit or not.
Respectfully Nat, that's dangerous, unbiblical thinking.

Gal 5:22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance.

No mention of language.

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You argue that the Holy Spirit was needed for the first church but since we have the Bible, we no longer require baptism of the Holy Spirit.
Who made that argument? There is no new birth without baptism of the HS. As I read your posts I get the distinct sense that your argument is there is no baptism of the HS, no new birth, no regeneration unless evidenced by speaking in a barbarian language. Are you saying Christians who don't buy into speaking gibberish are not born again?

And what will you do with:

Isaiah 33:19 Thou shalt not see a fierce people, a people of a deeper speech than thou canst perceive; of a stammering tongue, that thou canst not understand.

These heathens had the gift?


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nat wrote:
Read 1 corinthians.
1 Cor 14:21 In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord.

Isaiah 28:11-13 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear. But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

Isaiah 33:19 Thou shalt not see a fierce people, a people of a deeper speech than thou canst perceive; of a stammering tongue, that thou canst not understand.

Paul spoke of prophesying (language of the common people) and tongues (a language foreign to the common people). Isaiah identifies these tongues as stammerers...... a known language but unknown to the common people.

You posted proof texts to defend what you want to believe as Dave pointed out. But if you want the truth, you need to study the prophetic citations in context.


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pennned wrote:
many feel trapped and angry. I get that.
I saw the hijacking of the Bernie Sanders rally by the Black Lives Matter group last night......... again. No fan of Sanders but this was disgusting. And Hillary sucks up to them; they're votes ya know, if I promise them some candy.

And where is their laundry list of grievances which if granted would make them happy? Where is their roadmap to the American Dream? There is none........ like a whiney spoiled brat who has learned that continual whining will get them whatever they want whenever they want; all they know how to do is whine.

Its hard to believe that the liberals and liberal politicians in this country are that stupid to believe government has the solution. Its the drug dealers, pimps and welfare system which keep the inner city blacks in their prison and they love it to be so.


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Observer wrote:
Well bro, since the vacuum in his head seems adept at reproducing thousands of links, I kinda thought that perhaps it has nothing to do with his brain, but that it was a replacement strategy for thought. But I could be mistaken as I'm no expert on liberal brains, absent or present.
A liberal brain is a tough one to figure out, bro. Speaking of brains, mine hurts from all the laffs. I sure hope Jimmy has a fat checkbook as we've run up quite a bill at his expense.

Gotta go..... later.


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Observer wrote:
When someone finds Jim's brain, can they please report it to lost property? Thank you.

Gotta have a description...... I'd say it would look like a few million hyperlinks tightly wrapped and rolled together like a ball of yarn.

Jimmy MVO, as a brother in Christ I love you but really......... if you can't comprehend the KJV, don't read it. We'll forgive you.


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Dorcas wrote:
Hey brother Lurker,
My middle name as my Mother's...Elizabeth.
Hey sis, Your grandma and mother had good taste in names..... biblical too. Means "oath of God".

Bro UPS, Since we made our cases in a manner Jimmy MVO can understand (rabbit trails and irrelevance), perhaps he will get the point. Or not.

Brother Albert, no problem. Thanks for the reply.

Blessings to all.


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Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Thanks for the personal anecdote, Lurker. I remember growing up my parents kept saying something about avoiding kryptonite, I could even find it in the periodic table. Then they told me I wasn't going to work out because I didn't want to be a reporter and I didn't trust phone booths. (as far I could tell once you stepped into one of those you disappeared immediately and came out doing crazy things like talking on your shoe for a phone. They even said that was a way to CONTROL CHAOS) So, they transferred my powers to some guy named Clark. Strange kid, he said once he took off his glasses at a family reunion and nobody recognized him in the picture, just because he wasn't wearing his glasses!!! Then there was this James guy I knew (not the good brother from FL), every time the school bully was in the area, he would pick this flip device out his pocket and say "Beam me up Scotty" just unbelievable.
Thanks bro., Another great reason, and irrefutable proof, btw, why Elisabethan English is good for the soul.

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Jim Lincoln wrote:
Lurker everyone thinks the KJV is a joke,
So you think my daughter Elisabeth is a joke when the KJV says she is a heritage unto the Lord?

Since you always seem to speak in gibberish, you should be able to figure that one out. Which brings another point to mind......

Have you ever proof-read any of your posts? Most of the time they are unintelligible which is why I rarely read them. If you take so little care in making your own posts clear and concise, why should anyone bother to take them seriously? Seems rich that you criticize Elisabethan English yet take so little care in your own posts. I'd suggest you take a broom to your own door step before you point fingers at the reading preferences of others.

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