2 hours ago Frank writes: The purpose driven ministries are only difficult in that Satan has hidden his true agenda within these ministries by making them alternately fundamental, liberal, moderate, evangelical, and new-age all at the same time. When this occurs, one day they will seem okay, the next you arenâ€™t quite sure, and perhaps on the next you will denounce them altogether. They are tricky only to the extent that they on occasion preach something that makes sense and since we are so hesitant to say something is unclean after God has declared it clean, we are often confused and perplexed as to what to do or say. Christ to them is a means to capture the unsuspecting and no more.
Frank- I would have been proud to write. That myself- tempted to paste and send to all my unsuspecting friends !
Having the idea change that homosexuality is no longer a medical condition is kind of interesting in the uk- see we have too many referrals into the world of psychiatry and not enough psychiatrists to cope and whereas we used to have to see and treat paraphilias ( sexual perversions) we now refuse to see and treat because they are now now longer considered a medical condition. So ok- if I were asked to treat a depressed gay person I would have no problem and wouldn't feel that it was any conflict with my own personal religious morality. In fact I would consider it a privilege, I mean Jesus helped the woman in sexual sin who was about to be stoned and he was mates with tax collectors. Much of my contact with gay people has been through them experiencing homophobic bullying. Often there is only one kid in the school who is gay and they are marginalised and bullied and occasionally suicidal because of the bullying. I think if Jesus was in my position he wouldn't be refusing to befriend and help someone because he knew them to be a sinner. I don't know how that equates with baking cakes...I think the government should have made a clear distinction between Christian marriage and heathen marriage and I think that's the only way forward and the only way that allows the issue of both
E. Historically, Jews had evolved mostly from the Tribe of Judah and Simeon, and partially from the Israelite tribes of Binyamin and Levi, who had all together formed the ancient Kingdom of Judah.
If you check in revelation 7 of the tribes included in the 144 thousand Jewish evangelists, the tribe of Dan is excluded from the list- hence their recognition as Israelites is questionable also on this basis.They were excluded from the list of sealed tribes in the Book of Revelation for pagan practices, but they were given a northern portion of land in future Israel according to the Book of Ezekiel.
According to the Torah, the tribe consisted of descendants of Dan, a son of Jacob and Bilhah, Rachel's maidservant (Genesis 30:4). In the biblical account, Dan is one of the two children of Bilhah, the handmaid of Jacob's wife Rachel, the other child of Bilhah being Naphtali. Scholars see this as indicating that the authors saw Dan and Naphtali as being not of entirely Israelite origin (being descendants of handmaids rather than of full wives).
For once I agree with rick warren and I thought that mostly he did ok here. I think he took the issue of stoning off on a tangent that I wouldn't have taken it on- but yep glad he had a wide audience to speak out the truth. It's not just marriage though is it I mean the whole act, the whole concept is not acceptable in the eyes of god. The redefinition of marriage is a red herring- maybe we should classify marriage as Christian marriage or heathen marriage ( ie they can redefine and do what they like but we get to keep and promote the real thing- the life long union of one man and one woman).
Is hitler directly responsible for killing the Jews- is there any evidence that he directly killed a Jew ?
( found these facts on Internet...)
Politically Motivated Murders in South Africa from 1948 to 1994: Â Blacks Murdered by Blacks:Â Â 21000 people were killed in political violence during the 46 years leading up to the elections in April 1994.
14000 of these 21000 people were killed from 1990 to 1994
In the same period, 8580 black South Africans were killed by other blacks South Africans.
Another 4902 were killed by unknown forces, but it is generally assumed that these killings were black on black politically motivated murders. (necklace murders)
The ANC was responsible for mobilising black South Africans to murder other blacks who they thought were working with the Apartheid government. See YouTube video below:
Lamplighter- at least yu are not being censored. I am now banned from posting on the baker who refused to bake the gay wedding cake story. Every time I attempt to further my discussion- which I think is reasonable, in an open forum we should have freedoms to debate important issues and there should be people who stimulate debate ( I'm not sure I agree with myself always but I like to stimulate biblical debate) - my comments are not being accepted. Censorship is very wrong- has this happened to anyone else ????
Ok personally I think this is daft. I am a medical professional and if someone were dieing I wouldn't stop say mouth to mouth because they were gay. He's just being asked to make a cake - I actually feel this is discrimination. I think that it's different if a pair of queers were wanting to sleep in a double bed in your house because that's clearly violating your own area of personal Christian kingdom but a cake- I think I would just have baked the thing put white icing on it and told them to finish it off with whatever they wanted on the top. I mean will it get to the point where queers can't ride in buses or have to have their own tables in restaurants. I felt that this was discriminatory personally...
Jeremiah 17 9The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? 10I the Lord search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.