You wanna compare notes...you would be shocked to hear what Christ forgave me of...I ain't gonna say because it's between me and him ( bad bad stuff). I know Paul thinks he was bad but frank you are speaking to one in many ways worse. I can't wait to meet Paul and tell him he was not actually the most evil sinner. And see knowing how vile and how he has forgiven me- I cannot be a nettle shaker, it's hypocrisy....and if I am wrong and I should have been, I will just have to again ask his forgiveness. I have to ask myself what would Jesus do if he went to a gay pride? Would he indeed go to one ? My experience ( limited though it is) is of dealing with a number of youngsters who were homosexual. Several of whom had been bullied for being gay. Another pal of mine was gay and I had heard rumours but he never told me and i never asked ( we worked together and he was a top class nurse- we were busy) the next I heard he had died of HIV. Mostly I see sad individuals who are actually not very proud of being gay- I would say that they were at some level already convicted ????
Frank- I have never been to a gay pride. I'm not sure I have been called to go to one. Each man is called to his own sphere of ministry and I wouldnt condem Christians for going if called ( we once tracted and preached against a witch fest of mediums in a local village and we were called by the spirit ). Who knows in the future ? I guess if I compare the two situations there are similarities- I'm sure if there was a gay pride in the local village I would have tomgonand tract. But it would be after much prayer to find a Christ honouring manner of conveying the message. It all has to be done after much prayer... And being guided by him.
When I was truly born again I did not need any conviction from the flesh of man- true salvation must be of the spirit. Being truly born again is a terrible experience and standing before god as a hell bound sinner cannot be induced by a man. If you read of revivals you will see that men were stopped in their tracts by the supernatural power of god and they came in repentance to the churches begging-what must I do to be born again. Can I say it again- when I was truly born again I could hardly speak for at least 24 hours....I sat in my pastors kitchen and tried to make sense of it....to come to the realisation that I was indeed dead and no longer living. The gospel is the power of god. And yes we must affirm what our king feels on these matters, but much ( o dear how much you will never know) am I forgiven. How could I go around pointing the finger and whipping others with nettles. It is I that deserve the nettles....
I will agree with the church fathers- Enoch is not inspired of the holy spirit and it has no place in use for the Christian. God is able to preserve his word and Enoch not part of it. Sorry John, can't agree with you.
If you have the time there's a good testimony by Rosaria butterfield posted by Kevin Swanson. Have a listen because that seriously challenged me to consider gay people not as public enemy number one but as lost sinners needing to hear the gospel.
A bit of testimony- when I was 17 I had a best friend and I loved her ( not in a sexual sense but in a person to person sense) and we went everywhere together. She was not gay and neither am I. Well, because we spent so much time together my patents added two and two together and made five- we were accused of being in a lesbian relationship ( it was complicated by the fact that I was secretly seeing her brother). My patents were vile, and at one point my father beat me up and chucked me out ( it was Christmas morning). You know that damaged our relationship and it caused hatred....I can understand how gay people can become bitter. I don't condone this gay persecution of Christians thing but I would like to challenge folk to really pray about how they engage with gay people and whether there is a better way than whipping them with nettles.
Let me know what you think after listening to that testimony. And yes homosexuality dishonours Christ as does pornography but I would state that no Christian walking in the spirit could be involv
There is a spirit of witchcraft there- I can't tell you who because they don't post under a consistent title but I been sensing it. Internet web sites are easy picking for witches. I recall I used to post on a web site called end times and coming events and one or two there could discern but only just starting. Anyway this guy who initially looked kosher started posting demonic art - again knew the bible very well. In the end we had to delete his membership he was so wack. Not long after I had a virus attack that simply stopped me logging onto the website.
Btw gotta say how nice it is to have a normal discussion without having those weird people butting in all the time and accusing is being stupid. Dyu think they are kosher Steve ? I have a check in my spirit that they are sinister - a witch once infiltrated out group and she had an enormous knowledge of the bible but her spirit was not right. How long yu been on here with them ???
Yeah- I agree about the apocryphal books. I once read the book of Enoch ( is that in the apocrypha ?) and was very convicted by the holy spirit. What translation is the catholic and in your bible does it mention which original manuscript it was translated from- I'm sure it's the Alexandrian.
I think ( maybe wrong here) that tithing is an old testament legalistic concept. I actually try to tithe because I have certain difficulties that would prevent me from being more free and easy- at present. But really I think we are under grace and not law- and that could mean giving far more than 10% hers some awful testimony about giving- there was a woman in our crowd who was a ' missionary' and she wrote reams of teaching ( which was so voluminous that I just filed and ignored it) and she was skint so I gave some money to her. Long story I'm summarising. It turned out that she was a witch ( email me of you want to hear more I don't want to glorify her deeds and how she was outed). Anyway the moral of the story is pray about giving. I was led to a small missionary ministry that the lord put it on my heart to give to and you know they never wanted the 501 thing and they were really biblical. I used to give to emergency situations that were not run by christia n agencies but no matter how dire a situation I only give as directed by god now. It could be the dire situation is being used to discipline and I'm not going to mess with gods work....