"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."
Apparently the disciples of Census sect leader Robert M. Groves have blatantly disregarded and disrespected the clear command that the census is a Heathen matter and to not contact the kingdom of God and the church at any location. Returned mail stating said command went to three locations, and just yesterday we received a paper from an antichrist intruder who has disobeyed the command and is seeking to force her State religion upon us and treat us as fictional "residents" (creations of the State), and intends to continually harass and threaten God's people until they submit and comply with the dogmas of Statism. Even the sect leader himself declared that the so-called census is voluntary ("a request to participate").
Just noticed something interesting while assessing a postcard by the Census Sect Leader, Robert M. Groves.
Besides being directed to Resident (like previous hate mail), which is fiction and not a living soul, Robert states "you should have received a request to participate" and signs his name below. This trickster doesn't state what is printed on the other side, that threatening "YOUR RESPONSE TO THE U.S. CENSUS BUREAU IS REQUIRED BY LAW" statement and sign his name to that. Now who's making this command? It's a mystery, kinda like Mystery Babylon.
Now ponder deeply folks (if that's even possible) - "a request to participate."
Also, regarding IRS word art and trickery, you are assuming that some absolute truth exists in their forms in which someone can attain. If not, then not even some could understand.
I'm simply defending the gospel and dialoguing with someone I know not, who indicates however, that God's people are to subject themselves to the grievous commandments of men.
"May I live in this land called America, the place where God placed me, and simply love him and love my neighbor without being harassed and threatened into obeying the commandments of men, which choke the word and hinder the gospel?"
Neil wrote: Yes, I do go again against falsehood. "Form 1040 is irrelevant" How so? What other way does one have to deal with the IRS besides W-2 filings? "By the way, it's not possible for anyone to understand all the words and terms contained therein, so whosoever signs the form is a liar." A fallacious generalization. Have you polled *all* taxpayers to prove this? And I doubt illiterate people need to worry about filing anyway. Paying taxes does not hinder the Gospel now any more than it did in the 1st Century in an avowedly pagan civilization, with its corrupt publicans.
It's already apparent that you are only striving against the Light.
"How so?" Instead of evading my question, answering it may help you with your problem and understand better.
Are you assuming all taxpayers are not liars and understand IRS nonsense?
And who makes you the authority by stating that being forced to dedicate time to paying tithes and the burden and stress of maintaining records does not hinder the gospel? Have you taken a poll?
And once again, slicky, my question didn't mention "paying taxes" now did it? Read it again.
Neil wrote: OK, I'll satisfy your quibble & call it "demanding" money - it changes nothing. You're lying about what the IRS demands. Thou shalt not bear false witness. Where do they demand one's soul on Form 1040?
And there you go again.
"Form 1040" is irrelevant. [By the way, it's not possible for anyone to understand all the words and terms contained therein, so whosoever signs the form is a liar.] Anyway.....
May I live in this land called America, the place where God placed me, and simply love him and love my neighbor without being harassed and threatened into obeying the commandments of men, which choke the word and hinder the gospel?
Neil wrote: KC, your calling me "slicky" is indicative of bad manners, which warns me that spending more time trying to get an answer from you on the tax code question isn't worth the personal abuse. Ironically, you seem pretty exercised over a carnal matter like taxation. IRS agents aren't asking for your soul, just your money.
I call you that because you accuse me of being evasive, for one, while proceeding to be evasive yourself, in addition to trying to tempt me into confessing that I'd commit an act of violence in self-defense, and finally stating "trying to get an answer from [me] on the tax code...!"
Not exercised much, merely stating what those people are. No big deal to me. This should be common language, but sadly those who profess Christ are offended.
IRS agents are disciples of the devil's religion which does demand your soul! Homage and allegiance. Ain't no asking nothing, it's demand backed by force.
Neil wrote: "with that you are way too defensive of these terrorists." Subjective judgment on your part, so that's disposable. "Tell us what the alleged laws are." The Federal tax code is law. But I suppose this is too simple, and I'm going to get a lecture on the legal nonexistence of the Fed income tax. OK, no gun (nice try at evasion), but my question stands - would you use force against a tax auditor as an act of self-defense, just as you would against a bomb-wielding jihadist whom you equated with the former? I presume you believe Christians have the right to defend themselves.
Righteous judgment. You sure are a very suspicious fella Neil.
"Federal tax code" - Wrong. Keep trying.
It is ungodly for me to predict the future slicky, so I pray to not be in a situation where my flesh may be tempted to shove somebody's nose into their brain with my fist. If an antichrist such as a tithe collector threatens me with violence in person and demands FRN's, then if I have them I will hand them over. Then he can be on his way thinking he doeth God service.
Neil, I assume you're professing Christ, and with that you are way too defensive of these terrorists. Way.
"law enforcement" ..."enforce laws" ??
Now that's some question-begging slicky.
What law? Tell us what the alleged laws are, all of them, and keep us disciples updated so we can strive to obey them.
Yes, the term is broad, though still applicable. Most statists fit the definition well. God's children do not, as they wield the sword of the Spirit and not an arsenal of carnal weapons. I personally have no gun so I cannot shoot anyone.
"Romans 13" doesn't apply to the IRS sect. It is impossible for any agent to act godly and to do good, and if he did, then he'd no longer be working for Antichrist.
"The powers that be are ordained of God" to praise the good and punish evil. The big Caesars and the "we the people" little Caesars do not do this, and are therefore not to be referred to as "the powers that be."
In a sense "the city" (those real souls who actually comprise it - "city" is fiction and can't forbid nuttin')can allow or forbid anything because the disciples of Satan control all the land with support of the masses. The majority desire to be "U.S. Citizens" and to be under the commandments of man, looking to man for rights and the defense of rights, and this case is another fine example as the first page states the "unconstitutional" cry.
Jim Lincoln is bowing to the feet of Gil at the moment, but he should be here later quoting "Romans 13" from his strange book.
Intrusion, harassment, and threats of violence are strictly PROHIBITED!
Stranger (and lover of money), you are not wanted nor are you allowed to be near the kingdom of God and the church. Being of the Statist religion, you bring not the doctrine of Christ, but of Antichrist, and your status and mere presence alone is therefore an immediate threat and will not be tolerated. Please leave now.
Consider your evil deeds and why you choose to commit them, repent, believe the gospel of Jesus Christ, set him up as Lord and King, and obey his law alone. Love God and love (not harass and threaten) your neighbor.