cobbler wrote:
Yes Mike.
But that was back in the old days when nations actually had morals!!!

Mike wrote:
Better hurry Jim, only 20 mocking days left til your Caesar is deposed.

Mike wrote:
Covetousness is not only the desire to possess worldly things, it's the desire to possess the things that belong to others (Exodus 20:17) You know, like liberal politicians and the uninformed who vote for them.

B McCausland wrote:
1. This reasoning is nonsensical
2. Repetition adds learning to the good-willed.
So, you may reread past posts in case a refutation of facts presented is due. If not, your assumption is vain.
3. Yes, the first practice was a national festivity about the temple, the second was Scripture based custom. Booth instances do not apply to the topic presently discussed
4. Are you interested in the honest handling of Scriptures? Your reaction does not guarantee such
Sorry that your post is full of pretext mixed with derision

pennelope wrote:
the dismantlers continue on....
problem with Communion is that Catholics call it Mass.
If we take Communion, don't we legitimize the Mass because they call it Mass?

None of the naysayers have provided any proof of the connection of Christmas with Paganism, nor answered my post about why Jesus attended the feast of dedication (not commanded by God) or why the Jews observed fasts not commanded by God and yet God said he would bless these fasts and make them feast days.

John for Jesus wrote:
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For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive.
I Corinthians 15:22
Only in Christ is one made alive and only those who believed are placed in Christ.

s c wrote:
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As far as the "sabbath"- Christ is our Sabbath but many want to follow after the shadows or try to insist that our sabbath day changed. ...another topic

As for something having to be commanded before it being done, assuming that your gender marries, did you marry? If so, was it in church? If so, how do you justify that?

In John 10. 22, 23 we read of Jesus attending the feast of dedication (now know as Hanukkah). Can you please show me where the Jews were commanded to observe this feast?

Also in the law of Moses, the commanded annual day of atonement was observed with fasting. However, other uncommanded fast days were observed in the fourth month, fifth month, seventh month, and tenth month. These added fast days were not unacceptable to the Lord. On the contrary God promised to bless his people in that he would turn these fast days into feast days! (Zech 8.19)

s c wrote:
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As far as the "sabbath"- Christ is our Sabbath but many want to follow after the shadows or try to insist that our sabbath day changed. ...another topic

John for Jesus wrote:
ladybug...
Why do you think sinners are so good that if they knew there was a hell they would automatically do the right thing and believe in Jesus?

Rodney K. wrote:
Well, you don't have to celebrate Christmas in order to believe in the incarnation. There are some very valid concerns held by many here (myself included) about the origin and legitimacy of Christmas. Even if we strip away the commercialism and paganism that the world associates with Christmas (Santa, Christmas trees, etc.) there are still issues. Jesus was almost certainly not born on Dec. 25th. As Bro. John UK proposed in an earlier post, why not change it to a more realistic date (Oct. 4th) and do away with the excesses of the world? It would be an interesting experiment, would it not?
This is my last post today. I'm out of time. God bless!

Unprofitable Servant wrote:
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Your statement about the medic , unfortunately, shows how little you comprehend about the significance of the incarnation of our Lord but does explain your general attitude toward it.

finish the quote wrote:
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Regarding not the day, let us, nevertheless, give God thanks for the gift of his dear son.”
https://biblicalconnection.wordpress.com/2013/01/07/spurgeon-did-he-celebrate-christmas/
see also a sermon given by Mr. Spurgeon on 12/25/1859 on Isaiah 9:6
http://www.spurgeon.org/sermons/0291.php

Spurgeon's habit was to preach Christmas sermons and he even published a collection of 12 as specimens of such.

sc wrote:
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Celebrating this particular aspect of Christ is somewhat like celebrating that a medic came on the scene where someone needed rescued but just showed up to dwell among the people.
Not good news for the person dying.

John UK wrote:
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The problem with "today" is, that by far the vast majority of sinners are distracted by all the trimmings and false joyfulness and false lovey dovey and acid stomaches and drunkenness and nativity scenes and Christmass Number ones and disney animations and midnight masses and phone calls and parties and orgies and trees and mistletoes and yule logs and Christmass trees and carols at christmass and airey-fairy films on TV and monopoly boards and foreign holidays and a million and one other th

John UK wrote:
Yep! Same point again! It is ecumenists claim that the season offers opportunity for evangelism, saying that people are more likely to receive Christ at such a time.
We need to understand better the sovereignty of God, and the power of the word, and the life-giving spirit.
Yes indeed!

John UK wrote:
These are words which I appreciate immensely. They are right on the button. We need to have more trust in God, that he is well able and well willing to save sinners in his own good time, without recourse to salesmanship or back-door emotional-impact or in any way pandering to the desires of the sinner; rather, to do things God's way invokes his blessing upon it, because it was sourced in his own will and purpose; we merely fit into his plans, do his bidding, prayerfully obey him, and then watch him at work, as he turns men and women around, and makes them saints.

BRF wrote:
The crusades were the work of the Roman Catholic church and particularly the Popes of the day.
So to blame Christians is historically incorrect.
The gospel as never been spread successfully by the sword. In fact it has been more effective under persecution than when in the ascendancy.
May be that is why the church today seams so ineffectual a dose of persecution might just be spiritually good for us?

Mike wrote:
Bad at math, Jim? You could take all 38 Texas electoral votes away from Trump and give them to Clinton, and she still would have lost.

SteveR wrote:
No. I rather you allow the slander against me to continue without deletion than be your brother. Son of Belial, troll, scum, vile...whatever