ChristAlone wrote: Sorry accidently pressed add comment. Saved, meaning that you have confessed that only Christ can save you from your sins, then you should refrain from going to the romqn catholic church who believe that you mist pray to Mary who then goes to Christ. You should be apart of a church that teaches God's word for what it truly is.
Why? Church attendance in any church including an Evangelical Protestant Church is not required for salvation. Yes or no? If one who trusts entirely in Jesus alone for salvation does not leave the Catholic Church and unite/attend an Evangelical Protestant Church are they saved and will they go to Heaven when they pass away? According to Independent Baptist Church teaching and the Bible they will go to Heaven when they pass away.
Observer, I just don't have a mental assent to the doctrine of salvation. I really do trust entirely in Jesus alone for salvation.
Rodney K. wrote: Hello CA! Someone else here might give you a better answer, but I'll give you my short take on JY. He claims to have believed on Christ at an alter call at his brother's church. Yet he attends a Roman Catholic "church". He claims to know that the RCC teachings and liturgy are false, but he claims to only go along with the "unbiblical parts". He cannot be reasoned with, though many have tried. The majority of folks on here consider him a troll. He is prayed for, witnessed to, and refuted. But he stubbornly refuses to change.
There is an error in what you posted. You stated I only go along with the "unbiblical parts". That should be I only go along with the scriptural parts of the Mass. Answer this question. If nowhere in the Bible is church attendance in any church including an Evangelical Church mentioned as being required for salvation then why do you guys keep stating that because I attend the RCC and not an Evangelical Church that I am not really saved? To state that one who trusts entirely in Jesus alone for salvation has to leave the RCC and attend an Evangelical Church or else they are not really saved is going against the Bible doctrine of salvation.
Observer wrote: What a great world you live in where everyone you want to believe cannot get anything wrong but those who point to the bible and show you directly where you or they are wrong MUST be wrong by default! As I said, don't bother responding. I can't read any more of your tiring trash.
You are not acting very Christ like. But that is to be expected of someone of your limited perspicacity. Independent Baptist Churches get their doctrine of salvation from the Bible. And you are stating that they are wrong about what Justification By Faith means?
Observer, According to the teaching of the Independent Baptist Church that my Independent Baptist friend attends Justification By Faith means to trust in Jesus alone for salvation. That is what they teach and they get their doctrine of salvation from the Bible.
Observer wrote: In the excerpts I posted up Cloud didn't mention a single word about Graham's preaching. The article was about Graham's compromise with with Romanism, Modernism etc. So what lies did Cloud write?
The fact that Graham preaches the biblical doctrine of salvation means he has not compromised in his salvation message.
Observer wrote: WRONG!! But go knock yourself out thinking all's well.
Justifying faith means to trust entirely in Jesus alone for salvation. That is the doctrine of the Independent Baptist Church my Independent Baptist friend attends. That is the biblical doctrine of salvation. I trust entirely in Jesus alone for salvation therefore I am saved irrespective if I don't attend any Evangelical Church. Church attendance in any church including an Evangelical Church is not required for salvation. So grow up.
Observer wrote: Faith and obedience go hand in hand in the saved. You profess faith, but we know it's empty because we see no obedience, but rather wilful disobedience and hiding behind "only faith is needed for salvation" which is a total misunderstanding of the true doctrine of justification by faith, its grounds and effects. I'm sure you'll keep lying to yourself to your dying day, so I'm only posting this for the unwary who may not recognise the fallacies in your arguments. In other words, spare me your parrot response!
Justification by faith means to put ones trust entirely in Jesus alone for salvation and not to trust in anything else for salvation. Church attendance in any church including an Evangelical Church is not required for salvation. I trust entirely in Jesus alone for salvation. And thus I am saved according to the Bible and Baptist teaching. I have an Independent Baptist friend who states that because I trust entirely in Jesus alone for salvation that I am saved irrespective if I don't attend an Evangelical Church.
Dave wrote: What garbage John y. You're a false prophet in my book. The idiocy of the rcc system would be down right laughable, if the consequences of their false teachings weren't so disgustingly treacherous. You've been shown enough scripture. Find a perch in the popes shoulder.poly
So I am a false prophet for accepting the biblical doctrine of salvation that salvation comes only through embracing Jesus as Savior and trusting entirely in Him alone for salvation? You really are sick.
Christopher, Well I am going to continue to call myself Catholic irrespective if I don't subscribe to all Catholic doctrines. And stating that I have to leave the Catholic Church is adding another requirement onto salvation and makes the sacrifice of Jesus of no effect. The Bible gives only one requirement for salvation and that is to put ones trust entirely in Jesus alone for salvation. Nothing about church attendance in any church including an Evangelical Church mentioned as being required for salvation.
Observer wrote: ....cont/d â€śGod had instructed Graham to mark and avoid those who teach contrary to apostolic truth (Rom. 16:17). He had warned him that error is like a canker (2 Tim. 2:16-18) and leaven (Gal. 5:9) and that â€śevil communications corrupt good mannersâ€ť (1 Cor. 15:33), but Graham disobeyed Godâ€™s instruction and ignored His warning. In an interview with the Religious News Service in 1986, the 67-year-old Billy Graham admitted that his ministry was deliberately ecumenical even in its early days (Christian News, March 31, 1986). From that time, Graham moved ever closer in fellowship with Roman Catholicism and theological Modernism. As John Ashbrook, author of New Neutralism II: Exposing the Gray of Compromise, noted, â€śCompromise takes a man farther than he intends to go.â€ť The Bible warns that â€śevil communications corrupt good mannersâ€ť (1 Cor. 15:33). How did Grahamâ€™s ecumenical relationships affect him? OOS
Nothing but a bunch of lies about Graham not preaching the biblical doctrine of salvation. In every Crusade Graham preached the biblical doctrine of salvation that salvation comes only through embracing Jesus as Savior and trust in Him alone for salvation. So grow up.
Those students at that public university are dopey if they don't speak their beliefs every day of the week and for as much time as they choose to do so. What will happen? Will they be expelled from that university?
Observer wrote: Cited from Billy Graham and Rome by David Cloud: "Graham was influenced immensely by theological modernists in those days. In a lecture to the Union Theological Seminary in February 1954, Graham said that in 1953 he had locked himself into a room in New York City for an entire day with Jesse Bader and John Sutherland Bonnell in order to ask questions and receive their counsel. By this action, Graham was actually locking himself into a room with the devil, because these theological modernists were certainly the devilâ€™s ministers (2 Cor. 11:13-15). Thirty years later, Graham admitted to the Religious News Service that Bader was one of his â€śvery close advisers and friendsâ€ť (Christian News, March 31, 1986). Bader and Bonnell were both rank liberals who denied the doctrines of the New Testament faith. Bader was secretary of the radical National Council of Churches. In an article in Look magazine (March 23, 1954), Bonnell stated that he and most other Presbyterian ministers did not believe in the virgin birth and the bodily resurrection of Christ, the inspiration of Scripture, a literal heaven and hell, and other doctrines....." OOS
Well Graham has always preached the biblical doctrine of salvation. So grow up.
Jake wrote: This is the fruit of the new bible versions and Billy Graham's gospel.
You really have never watched a Billy Graham Crusade or else you would not make such a stupid statement that Graham has a different gospel than the biblical gospel because in every Crusade Graham has preached the biblical doctrine of salvation that salvation comes only through embracing Jesus as Savior and trust in Him alone for salvation.
SteveR wrote: In Reformed Tradition, the Belgic Confession isn't normally a stand alone document. Its part of the Three forms of Unity. The Three Forms of Unity is a collective name for the Belgic Confession, the Canons of Dort, and the Heidelberg Catechism While my Church uses the Westminster Confession, I find the Three Forms of Unity a welcome addition as they weren't products of a civil war like the WCF There is nothing vague about either standard to those who have been Born Again. But to the wicked, its vague
I accept the Belgic Confession, the Canons of Dort and the Heidelberg Catechism. I also accept the Augsburg Confession of the Lutheran Church and the Thirty Nine Articles of Religion of the Anglican/Episcopal Church.
I don't have to believe in the non existent Purgatory because from the day in November 1997 when I embraced Jesus as my Savior and started trusting in Him alone for salvation during and Altar Call at my brothers Non Denominational Church I have been guided by the Holy Spirit to not believe in Purgatory or any of the other unscriptural Catholic teachings.