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John UK...

Reformers add to that a Federal Headship of Adam, but the Scriptual part is theological and good for digestion. Thanks!


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SteveR...

We weren't born into a sinless world like Adam, but I believe we are innocent like he was until we sin and nobody else is to blame. My sin can lead to consequences for other people like Adam's did. However, consequences and blame are two different things.

NeedHim...

All of those verses are talking about adults and I never said we can make our hearts clean and pure from sin after sin is present within us. I also understand we all sin.


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SteveR...

We are not guilty of what Adam did. He alone is to blame and we aren't at fault. You won't find Adam's guilt being passed down to innocent people anywhere in Scripture. Reformed Theology is not always sound.


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I get that the first Adam sinned and as a consequence death entered into the world. I don't need a Reformed saint such as R.C. Sproul to teach me that because it is in Scripture. The problem is he will take that and start talking about a Federal Headship of Adam as if Adam was our representative and therefore we are guilty of sin before we sin, which is unbiblical. It also turns the Saviour into nothing more than a second representative, which He is not. Jesus didn't merely save me through representing Himself on my behalf. That is not enough. Living sinless on my behalf doesn't cut it. I must obtain His righteousness, because what good is it for me if He was righteous? I am not. I am still a sinner, even though He is not. We must be filled with the Holy Spirit wherein we are Righteous because He is Righteous. We are justified, because He was justified. Our sins are atoned for because He is the Atonement living in us. If your philosophical viewpoint wasn't so wrong, why do you feel the need to lie and say I glorify myself?

If someone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen?
I John 4:20

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John UK...

You'll have to do better than suggest I read Sproul! Please point to any verse that says anything about a Federal Headship of Adam. I won't hold my breath!

NeedHim...

For before the Child shall know to refuse the evil and choose the good, the land that you dread will be forsaken by both her kings.
Isaiah 7:16

Speaks of a point a child can know to refuse evil and choose good.

Even in the verse you mention, grace covered unintentional sins, which might still be different than ignorance of sin that a baby or retarded person might have. You are making an argument from silence when you say Sodom must have had children in it. Scripture doesn't say so. Last I checked, two men can't procreate.


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"1. You believe that God waits to see if men will believe, and then if they do, he elects them unto salvation. The reverse is true.

2. You believe that all men sin, without inheriting Adam's sinful nature. And so they die. The reverse is true. All inherit Adam's nature, because he is the head of the human race - he represented all of us. And we sinned in him. Therefore the moment we are conceived, we are guilty of our own sin, because we sinned in Adam. Therefore we are born spiritually dead, and we will die physically."

1. Far from it, God knows who will believe! Yes, God then elects believers to salvation.

2. Just flat out wrong on your part and contrary to Scripture! Reformers make that up out of thin air. The opposite is true.

The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.
Ezekiel 18:20


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John UK...

Of course there are consequences to Adam's sin. Death came through Adam and spread because all men sinned. However, I don't consider a baby to be a man. We are able to die because of Adam's sin. That doesn't mean all babies or disabled are able to sin. Don't you think that takes a conscious decision? Or do you believe, contrary to Scripture, that we are guilty of Adam's sin. You said you didn't. So it is our sin that causes us to break down and die barring murder, penalties, disease, or accidents. We are judged for what we do and if someone is unable to know the good they ought to do, how can they be guilty of sin?


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ladybug...

"IF Christ died for all, then all would be saved. Your theology makes salvation contingent on the sinner and his/her 'decision'."

All may be saved. The salvation of the whole world was secured by the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross. However, redemption can only be found in Him. The "cure" to our situation is Jesus Christ Himself. Jesus was the sacrifice that took away our sins, but we must now be washed in the blood of the Lamb.

And now why are you waiting? Arise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord.’
Acts 22:16

And with many other words he testified and exhorted them, saying, “Be saved from this perverse generation.”
Acts 2:40

We are to wash away our sins. It isn't by a work of salvation that we do. It is by allowing ourselves to "be saved" by Him.

Now when they heard this, they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Men and brethren, what shall we do?” Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Acts 2:37‭-‬38

If we turn from our sins and trust in Jesus, He will baptize us with His Holy Spirit and then we are saved.


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John UK...

Yes, all souls who sin die.

No, I believe a sinless person can die. Look at Jesus. People have mortal bodies, so an aborted child can suffer death by the hands of a murderer.


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ladybug...

Now who was that one time sacrifice for sin for?

But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, for the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, that He, by the grace of God, might taste death for everyone.
Hebrews 2:9 NKJV

And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.
I John 2:2

For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time,
I Timothy 2:5‭-‬6

Everyone! The whole world! For all! Imagine, some people don't even know these verses are in the Bible!

"There isn't one verse in all of the bible that states what you did."

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ladybug...

"The atonement was a one time sacrifice for the sins of the whole world,"- IF this were true, then ALL would go to heaven.

You do not understand the finished work of Christ, the power of His death, burial and resurrection, and the phrase "It is finished". There isn't one verse in all of the bible that states what you did."

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who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the people’s, for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself.
Hebrews 7:27

By that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
Hebrews 10:10

But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God,
Hebrews 10:12

For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified.
Hebrews 10:14

A one time atoning sacrifice for sin, as I said.


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Unprofitable Servant...

The atonement was a one time sacrifice for the sins of the whole world, but is only applied to those who believe, when they believe. It is unlimited in range or scope and limited in scale. Reason being, the atonement is in Christ.

Yes, I have read the New Testament and yes, I understand those verses.


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NeedHim...

"Absolutely so untrue to say & state that Reformed Theology saves people against their fallen wills."

Look at your Spurgeon verse. ”A mighty grace which he does not wish to resist enters into the man". This would mean that the sinner, according to the Reformed philosophy, would be unwilling and opposed to believe in Christ one second and then, after God does some hocus pocus, they are made willing contrary to their previous will and desire. It would be forced upon them without consent!


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NeedHim...

"so from your reasoning & logical thinking one name is written in the lambs book of eternal life when they believe?"

Would you elaborate?

ladybug...

"Read this, from John 10:26-28- But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand"."

Jesus says, "But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep..."

These sheep are not His. Unbelieving Jews were one fold. It can't be said that Gentiles were His sheep because they didn't believe. Therefore, they were not His sheep.

Jesus then says, "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me". This is another fold of sheep, Jewish Christians.

And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one shepherd.
John 10:16

These sheep are His and will be brought into the one fold. These are Jewish believers who have not yet come to Christ (become Christian). They still needed to be reached during Jesus' earthly ministry.


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Unprofitable Servant...

Jesus' atoning sacrifice is sufficient for all, but applied to only those who believe.

But He answered and said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
Matthew 15:24

To whom was Jesus sent? It's an easy question really, the answer is right there in the text.

I believe because I heard the preaching of the Gospel. I then trusted in Christ to save me from my sins. I even prayed a sinners prayer! *Gasp*


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ladybug...

I keep showing you where Jesus refers to the sheep as Jews. This should no longer be in question!

At that time, there was a distinction between believing Jews who knew the Savior and those who had not yet found out. Of course, those Jews who believed in God were going to hear Jesus' voice because they already believed in the one true God. Jesus was sent to Israel only, so for you to think He was talking about the Gentiles is plain wrong! There is no evidence He sought out any lost Gentiles. "Sheep" is the term Jesus used for Jews only, you are adding to Scripture and saying it can and must mean Gentiles also. There was one fold of believers who knew of the Messiah and other believers of God who were outside that fold and needed to be brought in.


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ladybug...

And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.
I John 2:2

All people of the whole world.

The sheep in John 10:16 are clearly Jews. As I pointed out:

... “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
Matthew 15:24

There were Jews who believed in God and those who did not. Out of those believers, some knew that Jesus, their Messiah, had come and others were still ignorant and had to be brought in to the fold. This didn't happen all at once, it took time to find them and bring them in.

Jesus' died for the Jews first and then also the Gentiles. The whole world. Atonement was completed by Christ and is administered at faith to the believer only.

NeedHim...

Sure they do! Sprouls once joked, the four gospels are Matthew, Mark, Luther, and John. He might have meant John Calvin too!

God has revealed who the elect are. He selects believers for salvation. That is why there are no unbelievers who are elect. Once a person believes they are selected for eternal life.


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ladybug...

The Scriptures say:

And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.
I John 2:2

The reason His blood is shed for many and not all for the remission of sins is because not all people will believe. God does not remit the sins of unbelievers. That means also, before anyone becomes a believer, their sins are unremitted. It's not like people are out there who are forgiven of their sins prior to believing. They are only remitted because Jesus indwells them by the Holy Spirit.

The "sheep" were believing Jews.

But He answered and said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
Matthew 15:24

These twelve Jesus sent out and commanded them, saying: “Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter a city of the Samaritans. But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Matthew 10:5‭-‬6

Jesus came to save the Jews, but since they rejected Him, He brought salvation to the Jew first and also the Gentile.


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NeedHim...

It's a philosophy to explain doctrine that people don't understand. Reformers follow the teachings of their saints, such as, Luther, Calvin, Sprouls, etc.
They teach a limited view of God's love and reckon their love to be greater for the lost than God Himself. They may love a brother, parent, child, or friend who they want to be saved, all the while, God has determined before time began not to give those people an opportunity to be saved because He hates their wickedness which they were born with and can't do anything about. Those who are saved are made so against their previous will, but God overcomes their will and changes it.


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ladybug...

"Many" people have lived in this world at one time or another and Jesus was the atoning sacrifice for them all, especially for His sheep.

A couple problems with the Reformed camp is that they confuse faith as some kind of work that God must perform for us. Secondly, they seem to think that each time someone believes, their sins are then atoned for. Jesus already atoned for the sins of the whole world, but it is only applied to people who believe. The work is over, finished. It is given in Christ through the Holy Spirit. Jesus lives inside of the believer and they then receive the atonement for their sins.

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