Duh wrote: Now here is a genuine church amongst whom the Lord Jesus walked. But he warns of a few that held to false doctrine and caused some to stumble. He says that he would fight against them if this was not sorted. Christ as head of the church hates false doctrine! In this case only a few were infecting the rest. In the RCC the whole is corrupt. Do you suppose that Christ is even present there? You worship in a 'church' where Christ would not be present and still think that you are a Christian? The whole point of worship is to be where Christ is and raise our hearts in adoration t
My Non Denominational brother accepts that I am saved. By only participating in the scriptural parts to the Mass I am worshipping Jesus. And the reason why I still attend the Catholic Church is that I like to attend Saturday Vigil Mass to do other things on Sunday. Another reason why I am still attending the Catholic Church is that I like liturgical worship over the non liturgical worship of Evangelical Protestant Churches.
GSTexas wrote: May I suggest we ignore John Y's trollish antics? Its quite obvious he is just trying to stir the pot. Lets all pray that God will remove the scales from his eyes, and lead him to the truth.
My Non Denominational brother accepts that I am saved because I embraced Jesus as Savior and I trust in Him alone for salvation which is what the Bible states has to be done in order to become saved. And for your information I don't have a mental assent to salvation. For a long time before I embraced Jesus as Savior during that Altar Call at my brother's church I had a mental assent to salvation and I was being prompted by the Holy Sprit to embrace Jesus as Savior but I kept resisting the Holy Spirit. It was during that Altar Call that I decided it was time to pay attention to the prompting of the Holy Spirit to embrace Jesus as Savior. So if I was guided by the Holy Spirit to embrace Jesus as Savior then I am saved.
R. K. Borill wrote: Being more like the Antchrist is being more like a socialist Democrat for crying out loud!!
So Francis is the one and only Anti-Christ mentioned in the Book of Revelation that will appear near the Second Coming of Christ? You can prove that of course? Why don't you think before making such a stupid statement like Francis is the one and only Anti-Christ?
Jim Lincoln, You also believe that Francis is the one and only Anti-Christ mentioned in the Book of Revelation that will appear near the Second Coming of Chirst? Same response as to R.K. Borril.
How wrote: Ignorant to assume that no one can tell whether someone is saved or not. There are many things that will be evident in the lives of those who are saved, otherwise they would be no different to worldlings stupid. In your case none of those evident signs are present, ergo you're not saved!
And just how do you know I don't possess those signs?
Since wrote: You're not going to heaven you don't have to worry about church. Anyways, where in the bible does it say you have to attend any church to go to heaven on your demise? So why bother, since it's such a cost for a shy guy to have to attend just so that he can ignore everyone?
How arrogant can anybody be to categorically state that I am not saved? Just because I attend the RCC doesn't automatically mean that I am not saved. If I embraced Jesus as my Savior and trust in Him alone for salvation then according to the Bible I saved. Attending church is important to worship Jesus as God but it is not required for entering Heaven upon ones demise. I am gradually becoming not so shy as the result of attending school to learn the Microsoft Office Suite. But I still think it is not that important to fellowship with individuals at church.
Having friends and engaging in verbal communication with individuals in church is highly overrated. It is not required for entering Heaven upon ones demise that one fellowship with individuals in church.
Duh wrote: And how does The Lord save someone in the synagogue of Satan who refuses to leave the place? JY is addicted to RCC vomit, as are you. Neither of you have spiritual tastes, which is why you both are against those on here who have had an evangelical born again, change of heart experience and not just a mental assent conversion.
If the Bible doesn't mention that church attendance/membership is required for entering Heaven upon ones demise and if Jesus will not look at the church that one attended in determining if one will enter Heaven and will only look at if one had embraced Him as ones Savior and trusted in Him alone for salvation in determining if one will enter Heaven then why are you implying that one who has embraced Jesus as ones Savior and trusts in Him alone for salvation has to leave the Catholic Church or they are not really saved? I have spiritual tastes. I listen to Christian music on the radio and Christian shows on the radio. I am not against anybody on here who is a Born Again Evangelical Protestant. What I am against is that most of you Evangelical Protestants on here state erroneously that unless one who is Born Again leaves the Catholic Church that they are not really saved.
SteveR wrote: John 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. John 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
What is the message you are trying to convey with those verses from the Gospel of Saint John?
Mr. Marty McD wrote: JY, your problem is less of what you say but more about what you leave out. You seem to ignore the parts of the Bible instructing you to have no part in the unfruitful works of darkness.
By rejecting and repudiating the unscriptural Catholic doctrines and by not participating in the unscriptural parts to the Mass I have no part in "the unfruitful works of darkness".
Michael Hranek wrote: JohnY They likely make them for the same reason that you do.
I don't make any insane statements. I state that salvation comes only through trusting in Jesus alone for salvation, which is absolutely biblical. I state that nowhere in the Bible does it mention anything about church attendance/membership being required for entering Heaven, which is absolutely biblical. I state that Jesus will not look at the church that one attended in determining if one will enter Heaven but will only look at if one had embraced Him as ones Savior and trusted in Him alone for salvation in determining if one will enter Heaven, which is absolutely biblical.
Christopher000 wrote: To me, the commandment is not about a picture, drawing, or any particular object, but rather, the worth that one gives it. The command speaks about having no other gods, bowing, serving, and jealousy. I think a graven image and likeness thereof is forbidden when the object, etc, becomes some sort of a magical object, lucky charm, or point of spiritual focus. Otherwise, just to own one? Even though I "think" this, I don't know for certain so I don't own any sort of paintings of angels, Christ, or other objects.. I always thought that was kind of silly anyway since nobody has any clue what either looks like anyway. I do own an oversized cross made of olive wood from Jerusalem, but that's it.
It is not idolatry to own a Crucifix, a picture and statue of Jesus(Which may or may not represent what Jesus looked like) and a statue of the Virgin Mary if one doesn't pray to or bow down to them.