Covenanter wrote: John; Here is the Christian teaching on the satanic Arminian ideology of so called "free will"
Why should I want learn about Arminianism?
I don't believe in free willism.
Why should I want learn about HyperCalvinism?
I don't believe in that nonsense.
Tell you what, stick to the Biblical Doctrines of Free and Sovereign Grace, and it will be better for you.
And also, you might like to listen to twenty of Charles Haddon Spurgeon's gospel sermons here on SA. It might just help you to grasp things a bit better. Then you could listen to twenty sermons by Henry T Mahan, and a few more by George Whitefield. Then listen to an account of revival by Duncan Campbell, concerning the Isle of Lewis Awakening.
Then, if you want to come to realise you are fast asleep in Zion, and need to wake up, have a watch of The Revival Hymn on You Tube. It will help you to see what real Christianity is all about. Thank you very much.
Covenanter wrote: We the elect don't worry to much about persecution John, because .....
Ah, a secret Christian, eh, Hyper Man Super Dooper Calvinistic Secret Disciple who does nothing for the kingdom of God yet expects to be received into the eternal felicity.
Sure, that is very much like the religion of the Pharisees, who got some things right, and imagined themselves God's elect because born a Jew.
One of God's ministers got it right when he said: NO CROSS - NO CROWN
Claiming to be one of God's elect is fine by me, but there should be evidences of regeneration, such as not telling lies etc.
But then, Presby Bigots can't see any further than their dusty documents, in which they immerse themselves (baptizo) and get enough brainwashing to last a lifetime.
But then, there are mighty fine Presbies, who are born again by the will of God, who love their brethren in other circles who are also born again by the will of God, looking forward to being with the entire church in eternity, still looking to the Lamb of God which taketh away the sin of the world. I think of the Free Presbies of Ulster, who are mighty in going out into the world to preach the gospel to every creature. Sure, it is evidence of obedience to Christ.
MS wrote: For the vile ungodly posts he writes, he should have been banned from this MB years ago.
Alas, he's a bit like the fig tree in the parable which bore no good fruit. Time runs out, and there is no repentance that I've ever seen.
Luke 13:6-9 KJV (6) He spake also this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none. (7) Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground? (8) And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it: (9) And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.
the few wrote: They all expected the Bible to be true where it predicts that ..... 10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Well I'd sure like to know how you experience persecution. But perhaps you don't DO anything worthy of persecution. Of course you don't, Moniker Hyper Man Super Calvinistic Man, according to you, we must not DO anything.
Down this way we suffer persecution from the ungodly because we make them feel uncomfortable, especially when we tell them that homosexuality is an abomination to God, as is adultery and so on and so forth. Oh, and so is Hyper Calvinism an abomination to the Lord Jesus Christ, who has plenty to say about what people are to DO. Even Christians. Yep!
The Covenanters ideal and plans for the UK was obviously not the plan of God, or it would have come about. I guess they were praying for all the wrong things, because if we ask according to his will, he heareth us.
Mourner wrote: @John UK Just a note of caution here from personal experience. Know something about your hearers. They come from vast and various backgrounds. For that reason different people will profit from different things you might share. When I first heard of a Savior that wanted to befriend me, in a breakaway group from Rome, I needed a friend and that was his initial draw. But when people shared in a college coffee house setting their great deliverance from past sins, that frightened and confused me. My parents did do a good job of protecting me from many second table offenses in my youth. I left that group of people and the Lord used other means to convince me of the sin that is common to all men as violaters of the whole law; both tables in heart, word and deed, as the Sermon on the Mount makes clear. All I'm saying is I sometimes need to listen more and speak less, so I can better edify others at the point of need. If this is helpful, good, if not needed file it for now, someday it may be. I am glad you have found fellowship in the Word of God so close to you.
Thank you Mourner. My elder encourages me speaking out with testimony of conversion, so I'll take his advice. Thanks anyway.
MS wrote: What one will find defined in the Catechism of the roman system: A false gospel of infant baptismal justification. Good works and 'sacraments' to improve and secure ones standing with God. A reaffirmation of a fictitious purgatory where one must 'atone' for their sins after death. A rejection of justification by faith alone through the imputed righteousness of Jesus Christ. The ecumenical movement is gaining its achieved goal. Romanists, Protestants, Baptists....already standing side by side in opposition to all the social issues of the day. Even working together in evangelism and joining for worship.
Maybe this is why adherents call themselves Catholics rather than Christians. They cannot possibly be Christians without believing the basics of Christianity concerning the new birth and justification through faith alone in Christ alone. This is why they all need....
MS wrote: The spirit of the day is ecumenism. It prefers to blur the lines of doctrinal distinctions, rather than delineate them. Which is evident by Gregg Allison's heretical statements in above news article.
This is also what I thought when I read the intro to the article.
Lurker wrote: Jesus didn't mince His words when He called the forefathers of the RCC the synagogue of Satan and neither should we. Like father, like son..... liars. Btw, an interesting tidbit just for SteveR..... enjoy. Matt 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Peter = petros: proper masculine noun. rock = petra: feminine noun. Peter was not the first pope as the RCC liars claim and all the gullible lemmings soak up.... the genders don't match up.
Brother Saint Lurker,
Thanks for that reminder of why the RCC has made such a big blunder, and built a false doctrine around a simple error. You'd have thought at least some of their theologians would have noticed that. But then, being dead in sin, unenlightened, unregenerate, and similar in many ways to many of the Jews in the days of Jesus on earth, they just cannot see it, for lack of spiritual discernment, even something as simple as this.
I sure hope you are okay, brother, as you've not posted in a while. _______________
Thanks Pilgrim for your expose on the aims of the ecumenical movement. Right on.
Mourner wrote: @ John UK .."we are going through the names of God, and this Thursday we shall be looking at Psalm 23, the Lord our Shepherd." Ah yes, the Good and Great Shepherd helped me here in answer to prayer 'Hallowed be thy name' see WCF LC Q.&A 190 and ...
Yes indeed, Mourner, this is just the sort of thing we are looking at on Thursday evenings. Especially looking at verses of the Bible where these names are mentioned.
If I remember rightly, the names of God beginning "El" as in El Shaddai (the Almighty God) refer to his own character and person. Those beginning with "Jehovah" as in Jehovah Tsidkenu (our righteousness) refer to his name as it relates directly to his people.
The discussions we have after the initial Bible Study are most profitable, especially if there are any questions. Some who attend are not yet Christians, but the fact that they come is encouraging to believe that a work of God is going on in their hearts.
Sometimes at this informal part of the meeting, I try to give out a little bit of testimony, of the great difference having God in my life makes, and how I came to know him in the first place.
Of course it can happen if God wills it. Albania prided itself on being the first totally atheistic country.......for a while. Until God decided to make a few changes there. Whole countries can change overnight by God's power, just as sinners can change overnight by God's power. God is omnipotent, and sometimes he exercises some of that power.
SteveR wrote: I do feel sorry for ya all that were so abused by some RCC members that you spend your spiritual lives to earn shame & contempt for a handful of false accusations
Steve, I hardly think you are saying that you have taken your place as a poor, lost, wretched sinner with, as Jeremiah says, a heart that is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked, and turned to the Lord in repentance, having remorse for your sins, hating yourself for having committed them, and turning away from them to put your trust in Jesus Christ as your substitute, being justified through faith alone in Christ alone, submitting yourself to his Lordship, never to be judgmental, that is, acting as if you were God (as does the RCC), and meekly following after Jesus, filled with his Spirit and bearing good fruit of love, joy and peace.
If you don't begin aright, how can you expect to live the Christian life? This is why ye.........
I see SteveR is still in the RCC anathematising business. He is an enemy to all here. But I would still like to see him converted and in his right mind. So Steve, you need to hear that if you.....
BELIEVE ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, THOU SHALT BE SAVED.
But if you add anything to believing, you are saying that Christ's work is insufficient. This is why we often refer to the FINISHED WORK of the Lord Jesus Christ. All that is needful for you to be saved has been accomplished by Christ himself. So acknowledge that you are an unworthy sinner, with nothing to commend you to God, and that you are justly under condemnation already because of your sins and unbelief, recognise the love of God for you in Christ Jesus, who is the Lamb of God which taketh away the sins of the world, and hold out an empty hand to him, with true remorse and contrition, trusting only in him, and call out to him for his mercy, for scripture says that "whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved." Do this tonight, and God will respond. He will fill you with joy and peace in believing, he will justify you, you will receive eternal life. To have Jesus is to have life.
Jim Lincoln wrote: Hmm, Matthew 11:28¬† ‚ÄúCome to me, all you who labor and are heavily burdened, and I will give you rest. 29¬†Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart; and you will find rest for your souls. 30¬†For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.‚ÄĚ It's a lot easier than the alternative.
Jim, it is delightful to agree with you on this. The only folks who imagine the Christian life is hard, is those who have been brought up strictly by strict parents who have never let their kids wander off into the world, nor become alcoholics, nor involved with drugs, nor prostitution, nor heavy metal rock music, nor Ouija boards, nor Tarot cards, nor animism, and have protected them from the devil by their prayers.
Sure, that's fine. But there are very few Christians who have had such privileges. Most have had a dreadful life, being slaves of Satan and Sin, gambling, drinking, playing the stock markets, continually fearful of death, compared in the Bible to the raging sea, no peace, no love, no joy, hell bound and hell bent, filled with bitterness and hatred, living in sin or always divorcing, and on and on and on.....
I have come to realise that you do not even get on with Calvinistic Presbies, let alone Doctrines of Grace Baptists.
I don't even need to figure out why that is, for it is plain for all to see.
All of my friends here who are in e-mail contact with me know exactly what I believe, but for some reason you cannot perceive it.
They must think it hilarious, witnessing your bizarre misinformation and obvious lies that you've kept up for years.
Now shall I quote Toplady again, from the sermon YOU posted up, and we can start all over again? You know, about how God's sovereignty and man's responsibility must be held in balance, not holding one over the other, neither forgetting one at the expense of the other?
Or did you disagree with Toplady?
Surely not? Surely yes!
You're no more a Calvinist than Rick Warren, and about as much use in this world.
Why do I say such things? Because you do not have the love of God, therefore you cannot go out into this world with love in your heart for poor lost sinners. You care nothing whether they perish or are saved, it is nothing to you. All you know is hyper Calvinism, which is highly damaging and does no-one any good. Look at yourself.
Mike wrote: When he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace, did he mean to say, the faith I gave you has saved thee? When he said to the blind man, Receive thy sight: thy faith hath saved thee, was it just a slip of the tongue?
I see that these two verses have the word "pistis" for faith, Mike. I think you have raised a very good point. Anyway, carry on.
1984 wrote: Now John. This "subjection" does not exist in man in his natural estate.
Oh....and I suppose somewhere down the line I have said otherwise have I?
Why not just quote me, instead of pontificating. And if you don't quote me, I shall thank Brother Saint Michael for developing the Doctrine of Deliberate Depravity, because you are the first candidate in line.
Besides which, AHEM, I was not speaking of sinners, but God's elect, REMEMBER.
What evidence do GOD'S ELECT show, that we can see the wonderful effects of God calling them by his grace? Well, let's see now, THEY EXERCISE FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST. There's one. And another, THEY REPENT OF THEIR SINS. Let's see now, oooh yes, THEY LOVE OTHERS IN THE BODY OF CHRIST, EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT PRESBIES.
WE know that we have passed from death unto life, BECAUSE we love THE BRETHREN.
This is how I suspect that YOU are not born again, and you never will be, except you repent of your sins and call on the name of the Lord. For whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. Or I could say.....
BELIEVE ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND THOU SHALT BE SAVED.
Get out of those dusty books and study the Bible, man! And then DO what God says.
1984 wrote: The fact is John I've always noticed that there are two parts of God's sovereignty which you Arminian free willers have always ignored.
If you are just going to tell lies about my theology, you have come to the end of discussion by default. I don't really like discussing with deliberate idiots. Maybe Brother Saint Michael was right about a certain doctrine called Deliberate Depravity.
However, out of concern for your soul, I will try to help you out as best I can. But it is very hard work because you have been brainwashed.
Let me see now - FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD.
Man without faith is also dead, dead in sins and trespasses, as Mr Wesley correctly said. (Man, did he sure bring out the hyper in you.)
Who is going to live? Those whom God has chosen in Christ before the foundation of the world.
Do they DO anything? Sure they do. Because faith without DOING is a pseudo faith. Faith without works is dead, it is not real.
What do these folks do, which confirms their election? They engage in a lifelong repentance, seeking to obey God, receiving Christ as Lord over their life. They "come to Christ", directly to him, they trust in him, they accept him, they want him, they love him.