An example of a good capitalist was the self-employed tanner at Joppa. Obviously owned a fair sized place, as he lodged Peter and his companions for several days, and when three men turned up from another good capitalist (Cornelius), he was able to lodge them as well. Note that he was not a reluctant lodger, but had that "liberal" mindset found in the new testament which was happy to give, give, and give some more, being hospitable, (which incidentally is a requirement of being a church elder).
A study of the Bible will show up what sort of mindset a person has, which is one of the reasons why Jesus told a rich young man to sell everything he had and give the proceeds to the poor. He loved, loved his dosh, and could not part with it for Jesus Christ, losing his soul in the process.
Strat wrote: The first paragraph of your post demonstrates it...
You mean these objective truths?-
[By far the majority of capitalists are unbelievers who have a love of money and the power that goes with it. Jesus mentioned one in the Bible who was doing so well that he had to pull down his barns and build bigger ones. Jesus called him a fool for neglecting his spiritual side, and that God wanted his soul that very night. Then there are hardworking spiritual people who have the Lord Jesus as Numero Uno in their life. If God prospers them, they are careful not to allow any riches to take over their mind, but use it for good purposes, rather than surround themselves with all their dosh which, although they earned it, it was God who prospered them - it is God's money, and they are but stewards of it.]
There are scripture proofs for everything I said in those two paragraphs. The fact that you disagree with both confirms my belief that you oppose God and God's ways according to the new covenant. It gets clearer and clearer. But then, if you belong to a capitalist megachurch, maybe you are simply getting a false perspective on money from false teachers.
Then there are those like Job, to whom God gave a great deal of dosh and children, but later took them all away, and took away his health also, whose friends did not understand the ways of God and thus exacerbated his suffering, until he learnt a few things and repented in sackcloth and ashes, to whom God restored all things in abundance, which is his right, as everything comes to man through the grace of God, undeserved and unmerited, when he could wipe out the human race because of its sin, but instead has chosen to save some out of the human rat race of hedonists, predestinating and electing them to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth, producing in them a fulfilment of the law which is to love God and to love his neighbour as much as he loves himself.
But then, the love of money seems to produce a stunted-growth Christian who lives only for himself and ignores the body of Christ or its needs. But there again, maybe they were not born again anyway.
By far the majority of capitalists are unbelievers who have a love of money and the power that goes with it. Jesus mentioned one in the Bible who was doing so well that he had to pull down his barns and build bigger ones. Jesus called him a fool for neglecting his spiritual side, and that God wanted his soul that very night.
Then there are hardworking spiritual people who have the Lord Jesus as Numero Uno in their life. If God prospers them, they are careful not to allow any riches to take over their mind, but use it for good purposes, rather than surround themselves with all their dosh which, although they earned it, it was God who prospered them - it is God's money, and they are but stewards of it.
Then there are those believers who used to work very hard, did not love money, but who became ill and no longer able to work and support themselves. These are they whom God introduces into the world to see if the richer, fully functioning brethren will support them and make sure they are okay, that both parties may be blessed.
Maybe Jesus is suffering, because "whatsoever ye do unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye do it unto me."
Maybe that's why SteveR keeps anathematising the believers here on SA. He is wanting to make Christ suffer. Oh boy!
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Strat wrote: Like I said before Israel is defending it's self and will continue to do so and there is nothing any of you can do about it....so ding ding on that one.
If you're referring to my ding ding, I think you should know that I support Israel's defence of its borders, and have never said anything different. And there's nothing you can do about that, either.
But as Jesus said to a Jewish teacher once, "Ye must be born again", so he says the same today to men the world over, whether they be in Gaza Strip or Israel or anywhere else. Physical genealogy never did affect God's choice, when he decided to save a people for himself; he chooses people from every nation under heaven, and saves them whenever he chooses through whomever he chooses. These are those elect souls called in Galatians "The Children of Promise".
SteveR to Strat wrote: How many Palestinians and Jews must perish without salvation, doomed to an eternity in perdition, before your wicked kind realize that dispensationalism is a false theology? We are at 60 plus years and counting
Strat to SteveR wrote: You are just an apostate Jew hater,go tell somebody who cares.
Aha! Thanks for all the links, which I've bookmarked, or in the modern op system lingo, I've pinned to Start. There's plenty there for me to have a go at, starting with the one which briefly details all the main interpretations. Now that will be most helpful, bro! So I am very grateful, and appreciate again your Helps UK.
MG wrote: John UK: Sorry about the link from the woman. I understand. I should have looked at it closer but I was out in the paddock moving sheep and checking the new lambs! I agree that end times study is time consuming and extraordinarily difficult. I do find it interesting though, that Thessalonians discusses end times events and they are considered basic teachings.
That's okay MG, no problem. I suppose I ought to compile a list of all the scriptures on the subject. I used to colour in my Bible in the 80's under different themes, but the Bible fell to pieces and I haven't done that since.
Mike wrote: Arminian? Of course the Lord brought us together. That's the obvious part to me, for I deserved her not. I don't have to remind myself that I woke up this morning because he allowed it.
Amen Mike, a happy marriage is a most wonderful thing; and that is not from one with any experience of it, but I have seen very elderly couples who have been married all their lives almost, and it is a delight to behold how they make it work, by the grace of God. Praise the Lord!
pennned wrote: John UK, I hope that I was not overly direct with you. I made a guess that you would want the information.
Hi Penny, no problem, and thanks for the info. One of my favourite writers is J. C. Ryle, who had investigated the verdict of many others before writing his most excellent series on The Gospels, giving the reader the opportunity to read of his research, before giving his own conclusions.
I believe it is a good thing to keep an open mind concerning the doctrines documented by men (even dispensationalists) in order to be more strengthened in the truth if it turns out they are incorrect.
What I was looking for is some short articles explaining each position, even the a-mil position which I currently hold to.
Sorry to you and LJ if you thought I had just ignored your posts, I am still pondering and thinking over these future things which may well involve all of us, if the Lord breaks out soon upon this world, heralded by a mighty trumpet blast, and thousands upon thousands of heraldic angels filling the skies with their awesome presence in support of the King of kings and Lord of lords as he appears in the clouds.