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More leftist rhetoric. If people disagree with homosexuality, the are labeled Homophobic. Guess the whole police dept. must be cleptophobic, because the arrest bank robbers. Seriously, people don't even know what a phobia is anymore.
I really had a wake up call today that shows how far gone even some professed Christians are in their thinking. There is a fellow in our gym, that by every conversation we have had, is a solid Christian. Yet when we were discussing Indiana protecting the rights of Christian businesses, He took objection to it. His reasoning was that; "All sin is the same in God's eyes so we cannot discriminate" Then he brought up the woman caught in adultery, and finally he objected that we can only win people with love, that is we say their lifestyle is wrong that is hate.
I answered all three of his objections with the word and sound reason. I also brought up the inevitable result that would take place if the Gov't was allowed to interfere with the private sector and the Church. Finally he said "I guess you have a point". Yet I was surprised at how far gone this fellows thinking had gone. The leaven of this worlds sophistry had affected many people
Pleas forgive the crosspost, even if it is only in part. But as I was posting on the Google Article, I realized a good part of what I wrote applies here. So, here it is:
We are now in a time where 40% of the population spends 80% of their time with their face in their phone. At work, on dates, at sporting events, at church. Every place, and every social construct had been affected. People in their 40s, and 50s are approaching the maturity level of what was a 14, or 15 yr old 40 yrs ago. As they play games, text, twit, and Facebook all day long, people have lost the ability to think for themselves, interact with their physical environment, and be responsible. Irresponsible marketing is largely to blame, as they purposely seek to get us addicted to the newest gadget. There is a place for much technology, but we have gone way beyond that. Of course social engineers never waste an opportunity to capitalize.
If I remember right, The premise of A "Brave New World" was that people would be so entertained (by design) that they would not know that all of their rights were being taken away. We are now in a time where 40% of the population spends 80% of their time with their face in their phone. At work, on dates, at sporting events, at church. Every place, and every social construct had been affected. People in their 40s, and 50s are approaching the maturity level of what was a 14, or 15 yr old 40 yrs ago. As they play games, text, twit, and facebook all day long, people have lost the ability to think for themselves, interact with their physical environment, and be responsible. Irresponsible marketing is largely to blame, as they purposely seek to get us addicted to the newest gadget. There is a place for much technology, but we have gone way beyond that. Of course social engineers never waste an opportunity to capitalize.
This is just another confirmation that I did the right thing when I left the SBC. They did not deal with the secret societies in the 80s, and they have done nothing but compromise since. Yes, they occasionally give lip service to the truth, if you can understand the conventions double talk.
I don't know all the particulars of this latest set of charges that wants him in prison for 100 yrs. but, I do know Kent Hovind personally, and have had him in every church I pastored. He may have had some views on taxation that I did not agree with, but, I do know that the real reasons he was jailed in the first place, was an attempt to shut him up on creationism. Even if these new charges were true, it could not possibly warrant such a sentence. On another note; I first read this article at 2:00 am (The entire one)and there were no posts at that time. Now at 10:30 am there are are several. Sadly, (and one of the main reason I quit posting for three yrs) is all of the posts that get off topic so quickly. Along with character assassinations. I'm sure there will be many more. If you disagree, disagree. But I will not respond. God's Blessing to you all.
www wrote: By leaves "the church" do you mean the people of God or a building?
You really Have swollowed the whole Emergent Error. I was going to ask why you keep asking questions when It's obvious you don't want answers. But it's obvious. You are being dishonest by asking. People reply, but you just ask questions of their replies. You are under the impression that your questions are irrefutible statement of fact. The way you reply to people's statement evedence that you cannot follow closley reasoned arguments (or even compound complex statement for that matter), and that your responses are based upon the Emotional Ferver you feel at the moment, rather than reason, or scripture. I'm afraid you will never, in this life, find out how totaly wrong you are. You have been given more than the first and second admonition, by people who have a level of spiritual maturity you don't. Yet you arrogantly question anyone who doesn't follow your emergent view. You seem to believe that anyone that is old and doesn't go chasing after the latest religious fad. Bottom line. There are only two approaches to church: Give God what He has required in His word, or give people what they want. I will not reply to any more of you argumentative questions.
www wrote: Young people primarily interact with the world via handhelds and flat screens. When your pastor uploads his core content, don't be surprised if your youth don't feel compelled to "be there" every Sunday. They can tune in throughout the week. When your sermon catalog is available 24/7, why get legalistic about seeing your youth face to face? The church is not a building, it's the people of God.
Forsake not the assembling of yourselves together, as the manner of some is. Real corporate worship and felowship cannot be accomplished via electronic devices, from miles away.
As to Young People; the church is to minister to people of all ages, not just Young People.
OHM wrote: does it really matter if we call them real human beings, or, rather, did Moses include them so that, instead, they would teach us important biblical concepts? Is our salvation predicated on Adam's and Eve's bones literally being buried somewhere or on Christ alone through faith by grace alone? If the First Couple were vital for faith, why are Adam & Eve omitted from every creed?
Very simple. If the First Adam was allegorical, and the fall fiction, then the second Adam (Christ)and his death would either be allegorical and/or unecessary. The need for the Atonement is predicated on the fact that a real hisorical person, who was the first man, and all of us proceeding from him, and partaking of his fallen nature, were in need of one perfect sustitute.
As to why Adam was not mentioned in any confession of faith; if a confession were to mention everything, it would be the size of the Bible itself. Also, confessions are a guide, and not infallible revelations from God.
Christian Atheist wrote: Once again the Dispensationalism of the new world order colonialist take over another sovereign country and American's think that it is a good thing. Even a wild donkey's colt has more common sense.
I didn't realize the Muslim Brotherhood were Dispensational Christian Colonialist. May the Emergent God, as we feel him to be, at the moment of our ongoing, ever morphing conversation, deliver us.
The statement: "All kinds of activities deemed vices by mothers everywhere have been adopted as badges of Calvinist identity and thus "redeemed": tobacco, tattoos, gambling, mixed martial arts, profane language, and lots of explicit talk about sex." has Never been indicative of Historic Calvinism. This sounds much more like the Emergent church that likes to refer to itself as Reformed.
Bibliophile wrote: Was in the PCA prior to converting into the Roman Catholic Church. They (and every other conservative Presbyterian denomination I know) recite the Gospel Summary (Nicene Creed) regularly and have never removed nor quibbled at all with its baptismal phrase.
Still up to your obsession of turning these threads into pro catholic threads eh? After your Apostacy into catholicism you should have gone to a catholic webite, and quit involving people in turning every article into debates over catholisism.
Please be honest. You don't really want an answer. You just want to defend your position. If you spent half as much time listening to the sermons on this; Protestant, Reformed, conservative, Fundamentalist website, you would not only have your answers, you would not have time to fill up all these threads with pro catholic arguments. [that was 2]