Actually, John UK, You aren't a Trintarian then, because Trinity isn't mentioned in the Bible? Actually "great tribulation," is see Revelation 2:22 --in your KJV-- and if you go outside of Revelation you will find
Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. ---KJV
John U.K., you just tricked me into using the KJV!
GSMontana, you as much as anyone, should know why I use quotations and URLs, we have the folks there in Wales, asking "Can anything good come out of Nebraska?" So, naturally, I use people they should even recognize who know what they are talking about -- to back me up.
Jeremiah 31:27 ‚ÄúBehold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will sow the house of Israel and the house of Judah with the seed of man and the seed of beast. 28 And it shall come to pass that as I have watched over them to pluck up and break down, to overthrow, destroy, and bring harm, so I will watch over them to build and to plant, declares the LORD. 29 In those days they shall no longer say: ‚Äú‚ÄėThe fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge.‚Äô
30 But everyone shall die for his own sin. Each man who eats sour grapes, his teeth shall be set on edge.---ESV
Penny, do you want to be held for what your ancestors did? I don't know how far you have to go back, but no doubt you'll find you are descended from Catholics. So who cares what Mr. Gates father has done? He's responsible for his own sin, just as Billy is for his.
Mike, why do you say that? I have interest people who have suffered from these nuts, So, of course I have an interest in this policeman, as I would in the so-called "pro-choice" people. The policeman was not the only one killed.
I do think this focus on the Catholic agenda, His Unholiness B-16 attempts to put limbo into limbo. You can march all you want outside abortion clinics, but do you hand out tracts such as, Is a Catholic Christian an Oxymoron?, they may be our co-belligerents, but certainly not fellow Christians In fact if you read the Limbo article you'll see many Protestant leaders think all who die in infancy go to heaven, and we know that all dedicated Catholics are going to hell! So JoBob you should be changing your emphasis as well.
Mike I'm not saying all the --highly misguided-- Christian Right aren't Christian, and certainly not killers, but groups like Identity: A 'Christian' Religion for White Racists have a closer association to the unbalanced views of the Christian Right than others.
Psalms 2:1 Why do the nations rage and the peoples plot in vain? 2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD and against his anointed, saying, 3 ‚ÄúLet us burst their bonds apart and cast away their cords from us.‚ÄĚ 4 He who sits in the heavens laughs; the Lord holds them in derision. 5 Then he will speak to them in his wrath, and terrify them in his fury, saying, 6 ‚ÄúAs for me, I have set my King on Zion, my holy hill.‚ÄĚ---ESV
'Was the translation process from original languages into English of 1611 A.D. protected from error by direct inspiration of the Holy Spirit? "KJV only" advocates say yes! The Facts say NO!'
Steve Rudd wrote: King James Version (KJV) ONLY??? Irrefutable proof the translators were not inspired Introductory notes 69 Questions for "KJV only" advocates 1611 marginal notes devastating!!! Indisputable, universally recognized errors in the KJV Inconsistency in translation A Good Translation, But Nothing More Egyptian Corruption Argument refuted Historical bloodline of "KJV only" false teachers Archaic Language of the KJV: 419 examples! The Original translators Preface to the 1611 Edition
If I can make it economical, not destructive to wildlife - - the windmills are a disaster for migrating birds - - Mr Gates could put his money elsewhere and be more beneficial. this sounds like a waste of a billion dollars. but then, he can waste a few billion here and there.
Hmm, maybe it should be put to you plain English, Frank, and not Elizabethan nonsense?
Matthew 26:52 Then Jesus said^ to him, "Put your sword back into its place; for all those who take up the sword shall perish by the sword.---NASB
Eschatology="The doctrine of the last or final things, as death, judgment, and the events therewith connected."
Soteriology="2. (Theol.) The doctrine of salvation by Jesus Christ."
The Christian Right Movement is a disaster for the mission of Christians! ' "The Reconstructionist movement and its allies and offshoots, by substituting political and cultural action for the proclamation of the Gospel, by substituting eschatology for soteriology, and by mangling the Gospel itself, have become tools of Romanist political action" (3/02, The Trinity Review).' excerpt from, Notes on Reconstructionism. Conservative Christians are overlooking The Inadequacy of Moralism and of political action.
Penny, I just thought you were getting worried about my ethnic background from my support of Israel. This article I see is directed toward our Reformed brethren (Yes, Dispensationalists think Reformed types are Christians, even though the feeling sometimes isn't mutual) What do you do with a future National Israel in the Bible?
[the following are Content sections] 1. The KJV originally contained the Apocrypha.... 2. Even excluding the Apocrypha, the KJV of 1611 differed slightly from editions of the KJV in common use today.... 3. The translators of the KJV did not believe in the KJV-Only doctrine.... 4. The KJV Bible itself does not teach the KJV-Only Doctrine.... 5. The KJV-Only doctrine contradicts the evidence of the KJV Bible itself.... 6. The KJV-Only doctrine is not the historic belief of the Christian faith.... 7. The KJV-Only doctrine does not fit the facts about the transmission of the Bible.... 8. One need not adhere to the KJV-only doctrine to respect the KJV as God's word.... 9. One need not adhere to the KJV-only doctrine to express criticisms of other translations.... 10. Advocacy of the KJV-only doctrine is no guarantee of doctrinal truth or interpretive accuracy.... 11. The KJV-only doctrine requires that we have some sort of faith in the KJV translators....When the Bible Becomes an Idol: Problems with the KJV-Only Doctrine
the only thing I'm insulting, Dave, is the making of another idol - - this time not by Catholics.
BDM Ministries wrote: One can certainly appreciate the point that many modern translations are suspect because of the heterodoxy of the translators. Still, insisting on retreat to a less than perfect translation of 1611, as all translations must be (and in fact usually using a 1769 tenth edition of that translation, which alleviates some of the earlier nine editions‚Äô imperfections), is still retreat, not an advance for the Kingdom of God. We can continue to appreciate and use ‚Äúthe KJV (tenth edition)‚ÄĚ without making it into an idol that is as detestable to God as any other idol.
The translators of the 1611 edition, in the preface, stated the need for constant revision to update the language. Yet KJV-Onlyism people criticize the modern translations for doing this very thing. If the KJV is the ‚Äúauthorized‚ÄĚ Bible, then KJV-Onlyites should have a real problem with what the translators themselves said.
Philippians 4:8¬†Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things. 9¬†What you have learned and received and heard and seen in me‚ÄĒpractice these things, and the God of peace will be with you -- ESV
This fellow would have been helped if he had done the above, instead of listening or watching whatever media that he did pay attention to.
Dr. Albert Mohler wrote: In our own context, one of the most seductive false gospels is moralism. This false gospel can take many forms and can emerge from any number of political and cultural impulses. Nevertheless, the basic structure of moralism comes down to this ‚ÄĒ the belief that the Gospel can be reduced to improvements in behavior.
Sadly, this false gospel is particularly attractive to those who believe themselves to be evangelicals motivated by a biblical impulse. Far too many believers and their churches succumb to the logic of moralism and reduce the Gospel to a message of moral improvement....
Because Frank, it often is by so-called Christians that have done these killings , q.v. the SA thread, Man Who Killed Abortion Doctor Executed. I would be happier to see it was done by a wacko Muslim than by a wacko "Christian.' At the time of the article that I had a link to, the reasons for this man's actions were not pinpointed even to the Planned Parenthood outfit I checked while writing this message, and the motives of the shooter were still unknown.
"I Corinthians 14:9: 6-14 Even an apostle could not edify, unless he spoke so as to be understood by his hearers. To speak words that have no meaning to those who hear them, is but speaking into the air. That cannot answer the end of speaking, which has no meaning; in this case, speaker and hearers are barbarians to each other. All religious services should be so performed in Christian assemblies, that all may join in, and profit by them. Language plain and easy to be understood, is the most proper for public worship, and other religious exercises. Every true follower of Christ will rather desire to do good to others, than to get a name for learning or fine speaking."--M. Hen