Rufus wrote: It is the point just before Christians get trodden under foot. Matthew 5:13 - Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.
I hope that is clever wit and not some other fanciful piece of dispensationalist eisegesis?
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords. 17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; 18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. 19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gather.
Delny wrote: Roman Catholic churches, synagogues and mosques who object will be given âwatertightâ protections against being forced to conduct gay weddings, Maria Miller, the Culture Secretary and minister for equalities, said. The Church of England and the Church in Wales are to be banned from holding gay weddings under the new law."" Telegraph Another attack on the Bible and the law of God by Satan and his Liberals.
I recently read about the alliance of these monotheistic religions on a website that would account for the 'watertight' protection given to them by the beast of the sea. According to Rev. 13:2 its power comes from the dragon. I have been taught the dragon in prophetic Scripture is Satan employing persecution; but his being referred to as a serpent is his employing deception. I have also been taught that the Moral person of the Antichrist of Scripture is a secular imperial world power in alliance with an apostate church and the papacy.
Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin. John 19:11
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Matthew 28:18
If all power is comes down from above and there is no power but of God. The Father has given all power to the Son, then who has given power to the Supreme Court to rule on God's law? We the people? The creature has power to rule on the Authority of the Creator? That's Blasphemy. Rev.13:1
Great Sermon! It's like we're all at this wild party. We hear the clock strike midnight and know we've gotta go, but don't. Tomorrow we'll be hammered and hopefully not pregnant but, "Shh!" let's not ruin tonight by talking about it. What national preacher's gonna cut the flow of birth control that's fueling This American Orgy? So many babies are dying and it's wrecking so much havoc in the church, home and college that someone's got to say 'No!' to the Margaret Sanger Worldviewâ˘. Church and home have been flipped on their head. Everything's now in chaos. When will the whole unified Church finally kiss the pandemonium-producing Pill goodbye?
After reading this article and the other links, I find myself asking: What is the difference between 1. the message implied, to attain the desired response of evangelicals and 2. the promoted unity of sentiment in a good cause that Evangelicals and Catholics Together always promote? Is there a difference? What is the real problem? How should it be addressed?
just what's next wrote: Whatever happened to WE THE PEOPLE?
Just what's next, I was wondering what is next myself. I found some comfort and instruction in Isaiah 58-59. My opinion which is only as valid as it agrees with the Scripture is that it is 'we the people' that is the problem. If God is the Creator, and Jesus Christ is the Redeemer of his people, given him by the Father; then as a member of the Triune Godhead, Christ should have the right to rule in any nation as part of his essential dominion as Creator. As the Redeemer of his donated people given him by the Father, the Church, he is Head. Separate institutions, different kinds responcibility, but all must be subject to God if he is God. Why be subject to a mixture of erring men and hold their word above God's?
Jessica Dawson wrote: I am sorry friend, but it really looks like you are debasing me and exalting yourself.
Friend, that is a heart judgment and you don't know my heart anymore than I know yours. It was not my known intent to debase your opinion or to exalt my own. If I did so, it was not my intent. My intent was for me in my opinions to keep first table commandments and honor God's opinion above yours or mine. I have tried to regulate what I do accordingly, yet not perfectly. I myself left a very lucrative job for conscience sake and it was a battle until it was resolved. The job was not sinful in itself, but the apostasy made it offensive to my conscience, and my conscience is not yours.
"We want to make a very strong message (to Muslims), you are welcome to America, pray to whatever god you want to pray to, the Constitution gives you that right, but in America our law is the Constitution," she said.
Any nation that declares itself independent of The word of God and the authority of Jesus Christ as the Prince of the kings of the earth is a nation of confused pluralism. Any professing church that entertains the same pluralism by not working to resolve her divisions and schisms is accountable to God for her example that has brought this confusion into government and she needs to repent. See J. Durham's work 'Concerning Scandal'and 1 Cor.3 It is the church who leads the nation by example and not the nation the church. The nations job is to protect her, as saith the Scripture.Isa.49:23
Personally, I would not encourage the use of cartoons for serious and weighty subjects, nor could I be an editor at this time in history with a conscience void of offense to God and man. Maybe someday but not now.
Every editor is going to have to deal with someone who is irate, because their submission wasn't accepted.[/QUOTE]I agree, but it is not whether they please themselves or the owner of the paper but whether they please God. That was my original point that I did not make clear. I'm sorry. We each one must give an account to God. Christians will have a greater responsibility for as you pointed out they are entrusted with truth and virtue. But all men will reckon to God for their conscience and this nation that has had the less clear light of truth, as a nation, since its constitution. It will not be as accountable as some nations. I believe this a true and honest statement, therefore consistent with Phil.4:8
Cbcpreacher, I've gone off topic that was relative to an editor's civil responsibility. I believe that was where you entered the dialog.
I don't believe God sees France and England from the same perspective but more like Israel and Judah. Both nations had a suffering remnant, but only one was a Christian nation in constitution. Our nation is deist in constitution, with a suffering remnant of true Christians, similar to France historically.
Though only the Father knows, I don't believe Christ's return is eminent because there is unfulfilled prophecy. He is not done with Israel, as a nation though in the days to come it may appear that He is. see Hosea 2 and Romans 11. I believe in separation of Church & State because their jobs are different, and that no nation has ever been a Christian nation unless Jesus Christ is declared to be Lord in their constitution. See Daniel 4:34-37 for a heathen king that understood God's essential dominion. Jesus Christ IS Lord and the now ascended Prince of the kings of the earth, this I know by faith in the Scripture for it is written. Psalm 2
Cbcpreacher wrote: Therefore, I agree with Jesus still when He said, "My kingdom is not of this world". That would be why I made the statements that I did. Cbcpreacher, Just to clarify, when I said Protestant I could have replaced that with Reformed in doctrine and worship. I will comment on the above because I have meditated on this text as well. I believe the Lord meant, as he said in his high priestly prayer, regarding his disciples that his kingdom is still in the world but not of it. I am a historic post-millenialist. It would be just if God was done with our nation but because he is not done with his elect or his visible church it is hard to understand what God might determine. Do you have sermons on this sight?
If Creation is a foundational teaching that makes all men subject to and dependent on God as creatures. And if man's fall into sin made him dependent on the veracity of God's word Genesis 3:15 and a promised Redeemer. Then heresies that deny the biblical account of Creation supports humanism either directly or indirectly. Romans 1 warns of the consequences to a society when the creature is worshiped and served rather than the Creator. Then it would seem that each man and woman in their place, calling and station are accountable to God for the truth they have been given, and even more so when it is given and believed.
Cbcpreacher wrote: Hope, I am assuming that you come from a dominion theology perspective.
Cbcpreacher I am not what was referred to as a Re-constructionist in my day. I am assuming that is what you mean by dominion theology. I will say that God has used some of their number to correct what I believe is an errant understanding in the visible professing church. For it is as authoritative as the New, our God is Immutable.
I agree with you that to whom much is given much is required. You may believe that means revival? I do not believe it safe to have revival without reformation. There is a mutual dependence of Church and State without it serious consequences will arise in the lives of the apple of God's eye, His people. I am Protestant in doctrine,and worship; Presbyterian in discipline and government best defined by the Free Church of Scotland's edition of the Westminster Confession of Faith.
Cbcpreacher wrote: Why do we expect any less from this newspaper or any other secular media in America?
CbcPreacher I believe your first statement on the topic above is related to the rest of the post. A house divided against itself cannot stand. That is true of the visible church and a nation when it combines error and truth when those truths have already been attained but lost by sin from generation to generation.
The proper understanding of Christ's Mediatorial Dominion has already been attained. I read this on the Lord's Day The Lord Jesus Christ has an essential dominion as a member of the adorable Trinity Rom. 9:5 over all Creation and a donative dominion as the Redeemer and Mediator of his Church given Him by the Father and administered by the Spirit's power on behalf of her Head the Lord Jesus Christ.
A Christian nation cannot have a secular media, a secular state will not long have a Christian Church, this has been proven historically, and repeats itself. It would seem to me it is the ministry and the congregation of the true religion who are instructed in the old paths that are even now being called to faithfulness at a dear price. see 1 Kings 22:24-28 Rev.11:3-4
Jessica Dawson wrote: Acts 19:37 For you have brought these men here who are neither robbers of temples nor blasphemers of your goddess.
Regarding the cartoon I do not believe it was the issue I was addressing. I was responding to your statement about editors rights and responsibilities in light of all of Scripture. All men and women of every vocation have the right and responsibility to obey God who reveals Himself in His Word. He is an Immutable God and therefore he does not change. I'll use your text for my point.
Demetrius was a tradesman, he was upset with Paul because of what he was teaching, see Acts 17:24-25; 19:26 It was going to affect his livelihood. Acts 19:24 He made no small gain. At that time, God's word had grown mightily and prevailed Acts 19:20. That was what was upsetting Demetrius. Paul was speaking the truth in love yet he did not fail to address idolatry and the worship of gods who were no gods at all. This came across clearly in Acts 17. He spoke in a manner so as not to offend for offense sake but he did not withhold truth that might be offensive. Jesus Christ to some is a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense.
Jessica Dawson wrote: The editors have the right to edit, it's their job. ... It's their money, their business.
I thought your post sounded reasonable, but I did not think it was biblical. I had to ask myself why not? "Let no man seek his own, but every man another's wealth." It would seem to me that every editor is duty bound before a holy God to speak the truth in love. But so few in every nation know it themselves or the God who is Love? But when the Church is the picture of Ephesians.4 teaching believers how to apply both the Old and New Testament Scriptures to their vocations and when necessary dealing with public scandals among her members, when Biblical Church discipline is being exercised with the keys given them by Christ because true biblical Church governors under one Government reflective of Ephes.4 then in that day, the local congregations will reflect Romans 12 and fulfill Rev. 11:11 by being faithful to their covenants. Then in due time the civil sphere will acknowledge it is their duty to kiss the Son lest he be angry and they perish in the way once his wrath begin to burn. Then they will protect the true religion and all their subjects, by punishing evil doers and rewarding the righteous. Isaiah 49:22-24