Chemble wrote: Romans 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God hath not cast away his people which he **FOREKNEW**....
Selective reading can be dangerous:
Roms 2.28,29 " For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Roms 9.6 "Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:..."
Roms 9.27 "Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:..."
Gal 3.7 "Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham."
Gal 3.29 "And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."
John UK wrote: That's okay MG, no problem. I suppose I ought to compile a list of all the scriptures on the subject. I used to colour in my Bible in the 80's under different themes, but the Bible fell to pieces and I haven't done that since.
Incidentally, this has nothing to do with the Genesis 17 Abrahamic covenant which is crucial to Presbys, NOT because it has anything to do with the covenant of grace, but to justify infant baptism on spurious grounds.
If you have any integrity (I will suspend judgement on this), from now on you have no excuse to accuse Baptists of not believing in a Covenant of Grace. If you do continue to make the baseless accusation then you lie intentionally and you will be accountable for that lie to the Lord.
CAB wrote: We never know when we're going to die, and if we're not ready we die in our sins....
Phil 1 3 I thank my God upon every remembrance of you, 4 always in every prayer of mine for you all making request with joy, 5 for your fellowship in the gospel from the first day until now; 6 *****being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ******
Not according to CAB!
God vacillates according to his caprices; sometimes acting the saviour, and sometimes looking for the slightest trip to cast off as though the blood of Christ counted for nothing and achieved nothing.
What a bankrupt theology!
making manifest wrote: Nope!! The real Christians - Presbyterian and Calvinist are nothing like John in their Biblical Theology. They stick to the Book... In fact CAB is one of the alter ego's of John UK.
Actually you and CAB have a great deal in common. You both believe that your erroneous views are correct. You both can't think. You are both equally blind, and I suspect that neither of you know the Lord through a genuine conversion experience. Save your sanctimony for someone gullible.
Everyone from the UK is John UK, because he was cloned 60 million times.
CAB wrote: Yes we can lose the Holy Spirit, as Jesus taught: 1. Abide in the vine or we will dry up, get broken off and burned. 2. Keep our lamps full of oil (ie holy spirit), be ready, if we die dry we will not be resurrected per Romans 8 and Jesus' teaching on the 10 virgins. 3.Keep your first love or Jesus will spew you out of his body. He wants us either hot or cold, and a dried up Christian is nauseating. 4.The Holy Spirit is indeed our seal of redemption, and if we grieve, insult or quench the Spirit away and die in that condition we have died in our sins. Many examples in scripture of people who were once saved and that very thing happened to them: lazy servant, backslidden servant, Hymaneus and Alexander, Solomon, Judas, more
Misinterpretations all. The oil=Holy Spirit interpretation was countered ages ago!
How does one even begin to deal with mind numbing ignorance like this. Just goes to show that error can be stated in a very few lines but the truth takes more space to explain. Probably why forums like this are such an attraction to heretics like this Corner worshipper.