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Marty wrote: Neither of you can by reference to Scripture restrict such an endeavour. It's you two that wish to restrict the manner of civil government. You mock the reformers, but even 200 years ago, what were the rates for fornication, divorce or even sodomy? How will you compensate victims and protect the weak?
Again, we do not have to. Ours is the null hypothesis. You are creating the doctrinal hypothesis - YOU need to prove it - and YOU have failed to do so.
There IS a regulative principle of worship. There is NO regulative principle of political national government. If you believe there is one, prove it from the scriptures.
The onus is on you to prove the papal goal and practice of Christianization - e.g. his decade of "evangelization" (note very carefully that it was not evangelism) to give half the world to Jesus as a birthday present on 25th December 2000.
Of course, this is just much as a lie as satan offering two-halves of the world to Christ. The earth is the Lord's and the fulness thereof!