W3k wrote: Mr Jones actions had consequences which clearly angered the Afghans.
W3k, I think you have been listening to the MSM too much.
On Mar 28th 2011 in Paktika, Afghanistan 23 dead and 60 wounded when 3 muslims detonate amid a construction crew. On Mar 25th 2011 in Nangarhar, Afghanistan 2 children dead 1 wounded by a muslim roadside bomb. On Mar 21st 2011 in Kandahar, Afghanistan 6 civilians are killed and 2 wounded by muslim gunmen. On Mar 15th 2011 in Laghman, Afghanistan 1 killed by a roadside bomb planted by muslim hardliners and in Nangarhar, Afghanistan 1 teacher killed as bomb detonated in a classroom. On Mar 14th 2011 in Kunduz, Afghanistan killed 36 and wounded 42 by a massive suicide bomb attack at a recruitment center. These few examples did not follow any q'uran burning.
Sunday, 03 April 2011 www.dailymessenger.com.pk Saudi Forces Burn Mosque and Desecrate Holy Quran in Bahrain According to eyewitnesses in Bahrain, Saudi forces attacked Hazrat Zainab Masjid in Hamad town and set it on fire and burned all holy objects including holy Quran. The masked men threw Molotov cocktails in to the Masjid and burned it. No violence followed this q'uran burning.
The point...Afghan muslim violence is inconsequential to Jones.
W3k wrote: Greeter The reason why people are connecting Jones action with the deaths in Afghanistan - Is because his actions in burning the Quran caused the riot which resulted in the muslim extremists reaction on that day. Everybody else can see the connection!!
I didn't make the connection.
I guess its because the Afghan muslims riot and kill everyday regardless of what happens on this side of the world hence, anything could be associated with this behaviour. For instance, I washed my car yesterday, that must have provoked them too!
Its blatantly obvious that Jones is no more a Christian than the Taliban murderers are. Why are you two supporting this reprobate so fervently? One thing for sure is that he is no Christian and the so called "church" he leads is more like a cult than a normal church, even ex-members are saying that. What Jones did was for hate and he himself expected it to lead to deaths. He should be brought to justice as accessory to murder. Are you two going to try to kill people like this too?
I didn't comment on Jones' faith. I support freedom of speech and expression, a freedom to worship and associate, a freedom to offer dissent.
I didn't read anything from the article about Jones' fostering any hatred. In fact the only hatred I read was the Afghan muslims killing people as is their usual custom.
The question I presented was how Gen. Petraeus could conclude any connection between the actions of Jones' in Florida and the muslims in Afghanistan.
My position... burn any book you want, draw any cartoon you want, write any book you want, wear any hairstyle you want, any never expect muslims to stop killing.
I think I read that the day before Terry Jones lit up the qu'ran there was 25 Afgan muslim-led murders and two days previous there was 14 murders. Maybe Jones' act resulted in crime prevention. Gen. Petraeus please tell me how Terry Jones is responsible for the past 1500 years of wicked behaviour by Afgan muslims and all the future wickedness they will commit until the Lord's second coming. As if muslims need a reason to murder! Muslim hate is driven deep in their hearts by a false prophet pushing a perverse religion through satanic verses. I say burn baby burn!
It is no wonder that this one of many, nare be the last, "bible" version is drawing critisim. A quick look at the TNIV Committee on bible Translation reveals a gang that should send shivers down ones spine.
Craig Blomberg is not only ecumenical but pro-mormon. Jeannine Brown is a feminist. Gordon Fee (the scariest of them all) is a member of the gnostic, pro-sodomite, feminist, ecumenical, anti-Jesus group christians for biblical Equality (CDE) with his friend Tony Campolo. Richard France is an Anglican ecumenicalist. David Instone-Brewer endorses and promotes (CDE). Karen Jobes is a feminist. Bruce Waltke is an evolutionist.
I won't exhaust myself to mention the dozens of consultants use in the TNIV who are ecumenicalist, biblical mythologists, and feminists.
It is worth noting that many of the TNIV translation members also worked on the NIV, NLT, ESV, HCSB, NAS versions. Its no wonder that so many works could have in common so much wrong.
Also to note, these translators approached the work by feminizing the Bible attempting to harmonize it with their humanistic views. They did not generate this version with anything but a preconceived deeply held wicked notion as old as the serpents lie to Eve. This news story best falls under "garbage in, garbage out".
Just another heretical "bible" version to ignore in the growing line-up of the new and improved. KJV 1611 Pure Cambridge Edition; a work of God and free to all (no copyright and fully on the web). One can read the work of the infidels, Wescott and Hort, if you are so mislead but I will stick to God's true Word instead.
Obama lies. This Kenyan-born muslim is instructed to do so by his qur'an: Al-Takeyya is the Islamic principle of lying for the sake of allah. Falsehoods told to prevent denigration of islam, to protect oneself, or to promote the cause of islam are sanctioned by the qur'an. You can't take anything obama or any muslim as truth.
How foolish is this theorem that this group trots out for the millionth time. This catholic organization, Life Dynamics Inc., once again tries to excuse the more rapidly growing (compared to other groups) sinful sexual behaviour of the American black subculture and assign it as an orchestrated racial attack by the American white majority. This time they did not even bother to cloak the â€śblack victim at the hands of evil whites leading to all the ills so noticeable in the American black subcultureâ€ť position they are determined to propagate. Correlating slavery and abortion rates; how could one take them seriously? â€śâ€¦today's abortion and birth control megacenters targeting black communitiesâ€¦â€ť They donâ€™t want you to suppose that the location and size of abortion clinics is not based on a regions racial profile but rather a marketing analysis of consumer density. Why would they not inform their audience of the massive discrepancy (300% more than non-hispanic whites) in sexual activity and teen pregnancies rates among blacks? Less we even mention the younger initial age of sexual activity. I wonder if that would have any affect on the statistics presented? I always find it interesting that the catholic church promotes all racial divides possible (see hispanic).
Lets see here... Composition of the Supreme Court; 66% catholics 33% jewish 0% Protestants
Composition of the U.S. population; 23.9% catholic 1.7% jewish 51.3% Protestants
Hardly representative. Obviously they do not represent me. Someone should inform these guys they are not THE Supreme Court. They will all yet have a hearing at the real Supreme Court once they die. Good luck with that!
Arghhh! The U.K. is dammed to suffer under the sins they so love. I will be praying for our Brothers and Sisters living in that ever darkening land.
1 Peter 3:14-17 But and if ye suffer for righteousness' sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled; But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear: Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ. For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing.