Pretty much everyone Ive ever met who is proud of the rebel flag is in fact a rascist. Im not making a blanket statement or anything or even saying it represents slavery. Just speaking from experience. Ive lived in the south for nearly twenty years, and Ive had to listen to the silly "The south will rise again" mantra pretty much from day one.
Well Mike, to be honest Im not sure now that I think about it.Verse 18 says condemnation came upon all men. But verse 19 uses the word many in the latter half of the verse in regards to salvation. It cant mean all, or that would mean universalism. If it only means some, than the use of the word many in the first half of verse 19 means only some were made sinners, contradicting verse 18.
Pelagianism is just as heretical as Mormonism. Its a wonder to me that someone can fall for something so easily proven false by Scripture, yet 16 centuries later its still leading people to perdition.
Romans 5:18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. 5:19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
Forgive my ignorance, but I'm not familiar with the term prevenient grace. Is it the same thing as Gods effectual calling? That seemed to be what I got out of John Uks posts. But Lurker seemed to be talking about something different.
Just trying to make heads or tails of the conversation.
I mean, I thought about when we first built â€śThe Dome,â€ť I wanted to put some of those little moving bars and give everybody a little card. Theyâ€™d stick it in a little computer slot. If they were tithing, beautiful music would go off and, you know, [Creflo sings] â€śWelcome, welcome, welcome to the World Dome.â€ť [Congregation laughs.]
Butâ€¦if they were non-tithers, the bar would lock up, the red and blue lights would start going, the siren would go off, and a voice would go out throughout the entire dome, â€śCrook, crook, crook, crook!â€ť [Congregation laughs.] Security would go and apprehend them, and once we got them all together, weâ€™d line them up in the front and pass out Uzis by the ushers and point our Uzis right at all those non-tithing members â€™cause we want God to come to church, and at the count of three â€śJesusâ€ť-es weâ€™d shoot them all dead. And then weâ€™d take them out the side door there, have a big hole, bury them, and then go ahead and have church and have the anointing.