Unprofitable Servant wrote: WELCOME BACK FRANK!!! Hope all is going well for you brother, so glad to see you posting again, you have been dearly missed
And I have missed you and the other brothers and sisters as well. I remember that you and I and John UK have the distinction of being labled the "unholy trinity" by SteveR. That is one of the highest honors I have ever received.
Gotta go to the dentist. I have already put his two kids through college and now I am working on their grad school.
John Yurich USA wrote: Satan's church is the Church of Satan that was founded by Anton Levay. The Catholic Church is not Satan's church as it worships Jesus as God. How sick can anybody be to state that the Catholic Church is Satan's church?
I understand your thoughts; I was raised in the RCC. Calling the RCC satan's church is simply my own personal feeling because there is absolutely nothing in their doctrine that is spiritually correct and "yet" they have led more people astray than any other movement. Scripture teaches that satan operates as an angel of light and he is extremely persuasive. No further comment or justification is needed. The RCC worships the RCC and like all cults they have an unquestioned leader who guides and leads them. As you know, the pope does that when he speaks from the chair of Moses. I and all genuine believers follow Christ because He is our Shepherd; not a man or a movement.
Thanks Chris! Only Observer knows my reasons for not posting and believe me they aren't important.
Christopher000 wrote: Our understanding of the life and roles of nuns are mostly limited to what we know and see in the US, but it's a much different story abroad. There are many different orders and functions and one of many comes to mind. I can't remember where or what their name is right now, but they are an order sworn to silence. They never speak, they sleep in small, dingy "cells" on a sheet of plywood laid across two sawhorses. their breakfast consists of a piece of bread and a cup of water while sitting at a wooden table that has a skull in the middle of it to remind them of death. I could go on, but it is basically a life of lonely misery as they sacrifice themselves for the church of Rome. What a life.
Yes Chris, I have read several stories of ex-nuns after they were finally saved and beginning to see the Light and then excaped from satan's church and they were truly amazing and horrible. Good comment and all of the others are good as well.
Overcomer wrote: The vast majority of women who have their babies murdered, do it willingly. Yes, there are some who are coerced, or feel there are no other options. There have been a few cases where a woman is given an abortifacient without her consent.( Ironically, millions do this on a daily basis by taking b/c pills) I have failed to see one woman being physically dragged into a clinic for an abortion. ( although, I have seen a few parent's strongly coerce their daughters) The true "war on women" began when Satan deceived Eve in the garden..."hast God really said?" From this original sin, this act of disobedience has brought forth death. The lie continues...
You are absolutely correct. I have never even read of a woman in this country who was truly physically forced into having an abortion. Yes, the lie does continue.
I remember years ago reading about "a" definition of rape on college campuses that included a man saying he would break up with his girlfriend if she didn't have sex with him. The statistician concluded that was being forced; therefore it was rape.
Thanks for your kind response. I have already forgiven you for any unkindness. I remember in my original post saying that no one would agree with me, so I expected someone to do what you did. Now, I do not make it a practice of arguing with ladies, so this will be my last response. As you might expect, this forum does not lend itself to exegeting verses fully.
1 Timothy 2:9-15 Titus 2:3-5 1 Peter 3:7 1 Ti 3:1-7 1 Cor 14:34,35 Eisegesis: The process of taking a preconceived belief and interpreting a biblical passage in a way that supports that belief. This is a very common phenomenon, although the interpreter is not generally conscious of the process. This is what you did with your Titus 2:3-5 example and your Timothy and his mother and grandmother example. If you are teaching younger women to do the things noted in Titus then you are correct. If you say that because women can teach their male children, then they can teach women, then so be it. I would have thought that a family unit was different. I also did not say there werenâ€™t exceptions to my thoughts. What you are doing is making the exception the rule.
Now if you want to say that letâ€™s say a womenâ€™s conference isnâ€™t a meeting of the church, then so be it.
Lurker wrote: The things which prompted this just shouldn't happen amongst Christians. I haven't formulated my thoughts yet and even when I do I will probably keep them to myself; but we live in a really bad time and brothers and sisters in Christ need each other's encouragement to get through the evil this world is forcing upon us. Nothing would serve the devil's purpose better than to work division amongst God's people and it grieves me to see it happening here.
Your comments are a blessing as usual. Does what you are saying mean that ladybug shouldn't have said I shouldn't be taken seriously, was guilty of eisegesis and was a Misogynist. I never even called her an evangelical feminist. I wonder why she was so testy?
Shane wrote: If you are not of this world.... can you even be on the right or left?
Correct Shane, Jesus was not into politics at all; His kingdom is not of this world and we are all called to be strangers and pilgrims, although admittedly most are not. He was not a democrat, independent, libertarian, or republican.
Unprofitable Servant wrote: While I still lament the departure from this forum of Observer and Dorcas, by God's grace will endeavor to keep them in my thoughts and prayers. Although I would hope they would come back, I will thank the Lord for having the privilege of interactiing with them here and wish God would bless them as they continue on in His service.
I agree brother! Although I'm sure that neither said what they said as "unto the Lord", so it was simply a personal decision on their part that can be reversed.
Although I didn't read any of the removed comments, it is hard to imagine the extent that SA is going. I have a feeling they would "remove" things that were said by the Lord Himself. He called some devils and SA might consider that to be unkind. And then although I didn't go through the thread on Christians having their throat slit; it is hard to imagine posting that thread and then removing what they deem to be unkind comments. But, I am just rambling since I didn't read the removed comments. But, I can't imagine you saying anything that would warrant that. But, clearly we are all grown-ups here.
Remember, SteveR has said I was demon controlled, possessed, and that you, I and John UK were part of an unholy ...
Mike wrote: Psalm 28:7 "The LORD is my strength and my shield; my heart trusted in him, and I am helped: therefore my heart greatly rejoiceth; and with my song will I praise him." Read closely. Do likewise.
Amen brother, gotta go play tennis with a fellow who doesn't mind playing with an old man. Thanks for the post.
John UK wrote: He who would valiant be 'Gainst all disaster, Let him in constancy Follow the Master. There's no discouragement Shall make Him once relent His first avowed intent To be a pilgrim. Whoso beset him round With dismal stories, Do but themselves confound, His strength the more is. No foes shall stay his might; Though he with giants fight, He will make good his right To be a pilgrim. Since, Lord, thou dost defend Us with Thy Spirit, We know we at the end Shall life inherit. Then fancies, flee away! I'll fear not what men say, I'll labor night and day To be a pilgrim.
Dorcas wrote: In the book of Isaiah chapter 3 the Lord pronounces His judgement on the wicked nation. Verse 12...As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them.... Is this not where we are right now?
Yes, we are Dorcas and it will only get worse and worse since in my opinion, it can't be undone. Excellent verse you noted. It made it in a couple of my meditations.
I never think of Christian women as being Pilgrims, but I will have to rethink that.
Thank you dear sister in Christ and yes John being a pilgrim is a hard thing to do, but our Lord will use our deficiencies for our good and His glory.  And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what [is] that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. (Rom 12:2 KJV)
John UK wrote: In the UK we have already had a woman Prime Minister, and how long before we have a female Archbishop of Canterbury heading up the worldwide Church of England? There is no doubt about the fact that women are taking on more and more roles. It seems to me to be a spiritual thing, orchestrated by the devil, who is having his big fling against God before his demise. In other words, there is more to this than meets the eye. To rebel against God's word is to rebel against God. And if the devil cannot get people to rebel against God's word, he will inevitably try to cause doubt that we actually have God's word.
Hey brother! What is taking place can't be reversed. "Some" of the reasons is the church only gives lip service to the following thoughts. We all want to be loved and respected, but ...
26] Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets. (Luk 6:26 KJV)  And ye shall be hated of all [men] for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. (Mat 10:22 KJV)  And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what [is] that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. (Rom 12:2 KJV)
T2W wrote: @Frank...you might enjoy Pastor Matt Trewella's sermon Refuting Regiment of Feminstsate June 27,1999.here on SA. Not for the faint hearted
You weren't kidding when you said it wasn't for the faint hearted. The sermon was very good and thank you for the referral. I didn't agree with everything he said, but the majority was right on. It reminded of what got me started on egalitarianism and evangelical feminism; Sarah Palin and how so many Christians got so excited when she came on the scene. I did also, but for all of 5 minutes.
Observer wrote: 1 Timothy 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. This is plainly a statement of fact, but do you think that this indicates proneness? If so, care to elaborate how, when both Adam and Eve were created alike? Eve's act may have led to a prohibition to teach and usurp authority, but man's sin led to universal death and a curse upon the earth. If there is a failure on the part of women to be subject to their men folk (which ain't the case in my connections), then should we not equally look to see if the men folk love their respective wives like Christ loved the church? If feminism has invaded the church, hasn't a similar thing happened, and perhaps for a longer period, with men having the wrong view of their roles in the family, lording it over the women and children? Do men know what this means?: 1 Peter 3:7 Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according t
I think the fact that Paul noted the woman was deceived sort of implies women are prone to deception. And it matches the many scriptures that refer to the roles of women. See my meditation for more.
Yes, men are guilty of what you noted. I have another longer meditation on feminism, so beware.