Mike wrote: "The committee gave the green light to the scheme after it was approved by the fertility regulator, the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority (HFEA), earlier this year" That they even have such an "authority" speaks volumes.
Well said Mike!
Mankind has been usurping things that rightfully belong solely to our heavenly Father since the Garden. But it is getting worse and worse. Their arrogance reminds me of the Tower of Babel and of those sodomites who did not even attempt to conceal their evil.
I remember hearing an old RC crusader thought. Convert and repent later and of course the RCC has always taught and practice the thought that in order to be relevant, you have to exist. I didnât read the article, but the headline doesnât surprise me in the least.
Matthew 10:25 It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household? 26 Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known. 27 What I tell you in the dark, speak in the light. What you hear in a whisper, proclaim on the housetops.
Dave wrote: He should be publicly flogged! Why didn't he protect everyone else from the Tsunami? False prophet. The world is only interested in feel good experience based apostasy, not the God of the bible.
I remember years ago that Pat Robertson said he prayed for a hurricane to change directions and not hit Virginia Beach where his headquarters was located. The hurricane didn't hit there, but did hit somewhere else.
IMO, the fact they say if something "promotes" hatred is the way they will come against Christians. So, if I say publicly that homosexuality is an abomination and anyone who practices that will undergo the wrath of God; they could consider that to be promoting hatred. So, if we quote God's word, then we are all in danger of violating this kind of law because we are in agreement with it. Those who listen to us, will be the ones who decide if we are promoting hatred.
Scripture clearly warns us that this day would come.
pennelpe wrote: yes, Frank, that is precisely their approach. when Christian denominations fight for their "place at the table", they then participate in their own compromise. R Warren, CFR member and SBC Pastor does well.
I have always thought of Rick Warren as a false apostle, but didn't know he was a CFR member. Thanks for that information.
IMO, the below is a perfect example of false bridge building and compromise, but the methodology is not by accident.
From the internet of course.
Dialectics - Hegel is also known for his theories on the dialectical nature of reality. According to Hegel, history is the struggle between different dynamic concepts that claim to be accurate descriptions of reality. This leads to what has been identified as the âthesis/antithesis/synthesisâ model for understanding reality: A concept (thesis) necessarily brings forth an opposite concept (antithesis). A struggle then emerges between the thesis and the antithesis until a more truthful synthesis emerges. The newly developed synthesis consists of the most truthful parts of the thesis and antithesis. This newly formed synthesis becomes a thesis from which an opposing antithesis is formed. From this comes another synthesis and the process continues until the âAbsolute Ideaâ is reached. Once the perfect âabsolute ideaâ is reached the thesis/antithesis/synthesis process ends. Thus, history is in progress and each synthesis leads to a better state for humanity.
"A debate is a conflict which clarifies a position. A dialogue is a conversation which compromises a position."
Dave wrote: G'day Frank, that guy we discussed about being turned by God , well we found out yday that , they expect him dead by Christmas, ah liver cancer, too far gone, in operable, I'm so thankful that he was called, by God , He is truly one of God's, We not chasing sympathy, I just wish reiterate what I told you about his conversion, When God moves, wow . Thankyou Jesus, for giving my bro a blessed and expected hope, on salvation. G'day and blessings to all
Thanks for the follow up Dave. If it was your alcoholic brother-in-law then I remember that. Regardless, one day I hope to see him in heaven and everything will be perfect!
Oh and congratulations on your new grand-daughter. My two grandkids are in their 20s so you must be a young whippersnapper.
John UK wrote: Archbishop Ramon Cabrera Arguelles of Lipa has received the death penalty already for his own sins, and is not therefore in a state fit enough to die for the sins of others. Jesus, on the other hand, lived a sin free life, the spotless Son of God, who could therefore be the Lamb of God which taketh away the sin of the world by his one substitutionary sacrifice at Golgotha. Many Roman Catholics over the years, especially nuns, have vainly imagined they can contribute to the redemption of the world through their own suffering. Such deception. But I guess it panders to their own ego, preferring to try to be the Potter rather than a simple lump of nothingness clay.
Absolutely perfect comment and all I will say is Amen! Catholicism is the biggest works based system in history and they even have their Christ on earth to run things. I think of the RCC as 2nd temple Judaism; nothing more, but perhaps less.
Your mention of nuns is right on. They really have been duped into believing they can serve or sacrifice their way into heaven.
Christopher000 wrote: Thanks Frank...yours is a perfect example of being born and raised up into a specific situation where it's all you knew since your learning process began. I know I've said it a few times before, but the next generation is growing up into the most liberal, Godless society since we settled on this land, as far as I know. Just think, all they know is what they are seeing, so for them, it's all just as normal as your take on certain things as a young man. Sodomy, the plight of the transgender, and the transgender confusion nonscense, the assault and attempted genocide against God, the new be who you are, who you feel, and if it feels good, it's your right to do it, motto, and whatever else...take your pick. Interesting days, and to see it all begin to unfold is really something. My biggest thing is watching as those within the church fall prey to either the pressures of society, or prey to the hidden lusts that are finally being set free, and excused, according to their new, comprimised views on an "ever changing God".
You have an excellent understanding of these issues. Yes we are more a product of our environment/upbringing than we can imagine. But, when the Lord comes into our lives, He can/does change us.
Christopher000 wrote: Frank Wrote: "...I live in the south and I can remember separate drinking fountains, separate restrooms, separate restaurants, the back of the bus stuff, men not being able to work and so many other things." Hard to believe those times even existed. Back then, I'm sure it just all seemed so normal and not too many gave it much thought. Now, I can't beieve any human was ever looked down upon and slaved out as if they were some sort of sub-human species, or animal, etc. Difficult to digest, and look at the damage done, as the past lives on in the hatred that lives on today.
And, many people don't know that Jerry Falwell said that blacks had the mark of Cain. He later changed his viewpoint on that.
When I was younger I used to sell insurance in black neighborhoods. I and all of the insurance agents used to cheat them out of money. No one would hire the men, so they were usually at home drunk or at a bar drunk. The women could be hired as domestic workers and they were usually the main providers; hence they at least had a matriarchal society. Normally whoever earns the money, runs the families. One reason why women should stay home.
John Yurich USA wrote: Just because I attend the Catholic Church and not an Evangelical Church does not mean I am not really saved. That is totally against the Bible. The Bible states that the only requirement for salvation is to embrace Jesus as Savior and trust entirely in Him alone for salvation. Nothing about church attendance in any church including an Evangelical Church being required for salvation. Jesus will not look at the church that one attended in deciding who enters Heaven. He will only look at who had trusted in Him alone for salvation in deciding who enters Heaven.
If you are so used to being a parrot, you will often not read something well. The issue I raised was that no one "on this forum" except SteveR considered you to be saved. My only goal was to get him to ponder that issue.
Most realize what your responses are going to be. The same thing over and over because you like the controversy.
GSMontana wrote: So I take it Jim that you'll be voting for Gary Johnson in November.
Brother GS, I think you just might be right. Like Obama and Hillary, aka, the paragon of virtue, no one would confuse Gary with Christianity. Wow, then no Christian activism.
Gary Johnson supports "a woman's right to choose up until the point of viability" and wants to keep abortion legal
Formerly a supporter of civil unions for same-sex couples, on December 1, 2011, Johnson voiced his support for same-sex marriage. He believes that "denying those rights and benefits to gay couples is discrimination, plain and simple." He has also stated that marriage laws should treat every individual equally.
In 2013, Johnson was a signatory to an amicus curiae brief submitted to the Supreme Court in support of same-sex marriage during the Hollingsworth v. Perrycase.
Gary Johnson favors a federal law to legalize gay marriage across the United States, rather than leaving the issue up to the individual states.
Okay now, please understand that this thought is cultural/secular and has nothing to do with born again believers. In Christ, all are one and completely equal regardless of race, culture, gender or any other thing we can imagine. Now to the article.
Of course children will not discriminate because they have not been taught hate nor even understand hate, and they do not see the significant differences between black and white cultures that do exist. The way the study approached this was shallow and not statistically meaningful. There are major differences in the cultures and as they learn that as they grow older, and as they see these differences as part of their lives, they will tend to go towards their own race. In extreme cases, both races will then practice racism.
I live in the south and I can remember separate drinking fountains, separate restrooms, separate restaurants, the back of the bus stuff, men not being able to work and so many other things. The generation before mine of course saw so much more discrimination. Shame on our society for practicing those things.
And lastly, I believe that Obama and his ilk have made things so much worse; just in a different way. His liberation theology is ungodly and has spiritually helped no one.
GSMontana wrote: I agree with Dave. If Geff is using your IP address, then you guys know each other, which means you have been lying from the start. I definately remember you guys claiming you dont know each other, and you and the other bunch jumped my case the first time I called Geff out, trying to make me look like the bad guy. Besides, if you arent one and the same or know each other,how is it you guys always, without fail, post together, always agree, and all post in the same voice? Like I said before, Geff goes silent, so do the rest. Geff shows up after a period of time, the rest magically appear. Give it a rest already, the gig is up.
I am just catching up on all this Moniker stuff. All I can say is if memory serves me correctly a while back I got upset with Geff and implied I would ignore him. If memory serves me correctly TMC and 2 Timothy 3:16 jumped all over me a short time later and they appeared to compliment each other's post.
I may be somewhat off, but that is my memory. Now if that is true, then GS and Dave are right on. But one thing is for sure, this will be my last comment on the Moniker and IP stuff. If some want to deceive others, they will simply start over again. I know those whom I can trust and will continue.
just a nobody wrote: I wonder what it will take for people to actually give up jobs and livelihoods to protect their children from this mess?
Well you may be just a nobody, but your question is right on track. Most families will not be willing to suffer economic loss . Women are taught they can supposedly have it all; work and be mothers in their spare time and men are very satisfied with the extra income because it gives them all extra toys and to insist their wives stop work is tantamount to being hateful or intolerant in our society. Men would have it no other way and women wouldn't either.
So, I can't answer your question, but I appreciate the question.
But let me just add this thought. I believe most of our social ills come from our unwillingness to fight against the source or the beginning of the problem; before the problem becomes a real problem. So, homosexual conduct was glossed over by much of the professing church and by the media and now we are discussing homosexual marriage. Transgender dressing was glossed over and now we have the bathroom issue. The roles of men and women were glossed over and now we have dysfunctional families. Our Lord and His apostles never entertained sin of any kind.
I have always thought that once Pandoraâs Box has been opened it "canât be shut". Secular society does not have the means to repent; their spirits are indeed dead, so it will in fact just keep getting worse and worse. Scripture says we are not to love the world and of course that implies there is in fact an evil world. We will fight individual battles from here on out. It is also true that if anyone who is a public figure or someone who works for a governmental agency, etc., wonât keep their livelihoods long if they speak out forcefully against these abominations. Even mom and pop businesses wonât survive what is coming as we already see.
I understand your thought, but I also hope you reconsider. You are a blessing and an encouragement to so many who post. I wouldn't let folks like BM or SC drive you away because of stances they take. Just pretty much ignore them when possible and it will be easier.
But, I will admit that this forum is getting stranger and stranger.
SteveR wrote: I take it from the deleted posts, Observer didn't take your advice and adk for forgiveness. Imo-Your very existence can't be reconciled with his understanding of Christiainity, thus he behaves in this way. A true Christian would accept you John, those not born of the spirit can't
Now since you would readily agree, there are few if any on this forum that accept JohnY as a brother in Christ. The only one that knows his testimony and accepts him might just be you. If you can name another poster that I might have missed; that would be great.
So, you are saying that no one on this forum had been born again except you and our RC parrot.
The above was a rhetorical question. I just wanted everyone to see what your comment really meant. You are ecumenical, plain and simply and believe in a name it claim it salvation without the evidence of fruit or doctrinal purity.
And, Observer is a very wise brother in Christ. You cannot possibly know that, but he is.