The gospel of our Lord and Savior is the only hope for mankind and no communist regime can stamp it out. Christ will indeed build His church and these puffed up foolish men have no power to stop Him. I love to live in an environment where there is peace and tranquility and Christians can live in peace, but the real and powerful gospel spreads much faster in hostile environments. I just pray the true Christians living in China will give up all to be faithful to Christ and not yield an inch to these infidels.
MS wrote: The church is filled with theological confusion, error and unbelief. When some would confront these issues in the spirit of Elijah, strip away the sheeps clothing and expose the wolf, on come some who sanctimoniously start their rant and slander condemning those as slammers, heresy hunters, (fill in the blank). Heresy must be prospering in the assemblies, for none DARE call it heresy.
You mean when JohnUK called me a slammer and primarily a heresy hunter, he meant that? My goodness, how could someone who is filled with such love say that about, Ladybug and I.
JohnUK, if you are still reading this thread, please clarify this. I know you never apologized for saying those things to me, but I just thought that perhaps you misspoke.
A carnal man will primarily seek wealth and then use that wealth to buy status, ungodly pleasures and attractive women. Trump already has those things so he is now seeking the only thing his carnal mind doesnâ€™t have and that is the highest political office in the world. Of course that would give him additional status and fame; a legacy for the world to remember. He is a buffoon who admittedly thought he had no chance in the beginning and you could almost see his disbelief as he constantly bragged and bragged and bragged. It is absolutely amazing that our country has slid so far, but Godâ€™s judgment is beyond our comprehension and he will cause the blind to be even blinder to accomplish His purposes. And as everyone should know by now, I give absolutely no spiritual value to any candidate, but Trump is the issue on this thread.
He truly doesnâ€™t understand that this life is but a puff of smoke that disappears into to air and then comes our eternal judgment. He can't take any of his worldly pleasures with him.
As you know, I couldn't agree with your thumbs up more! The gospel has been dummied down so far that most people have no idea what it means to be a Christian wife or husband. Egalitarianism is ruling the day in the church and IMO it is even worse than outright feminism, because it confuses those in the genuine church.
I have no idea why a woman wouldn't want to stay home and be with her children, keep house and do charitable work in her spare time. If a man encourages his wife to work when she doesn't need to, he doesn't understand Christianity. If she finds no contentment at home and seeks relevancy outside the home, she understands nothing as well. If you want to be a successful politician, you better support egalitarianism at a minimum.
The war on women is when the world encourages them to seek relevancy outside of what God designed for them.
MS wrote: Thanks brother for your input. One who wrote and preached on this heresy was the late John Robbins of the Trinity Foundation. Many of his sermons with PDF can be found here on SA. One in particular that addresses TNPOP is "The Theology of N.T. Wright.
I listened to his sermon on it while he (John Robbins) was still alive. I emailed him and complimented him on his understanding and he responded to me in a very pleasant way and actually discussed his thoughts with me. Very rare for a pastor to do that with a nobody.
If I'm not mistaken, he actually left his denomination over this issue, but I might well be wrong about that. I know little about John Robbins other than this issue.
I then listened to a sermon by Sinclair Ferguson on the New Perspective and I was really disappointed by what I thought was his poor understanding of what NT Wright was really saying. I formed most of my thoughts based on Ferguson's sermon and of course John Robbin's exposing the heresy of it. I also remember that John Robbins was quite young when he died; in his 50s, I think.
MS wrote: It smacks of "The New Perspective of Paul" system that seeks to reinterpret the letters of Paul.
Sister, I can't believe someone other than me has studied the New Perspective of Paul. What heresy. It taught there was no salvation by justification through faith, but justification only was available in some covenant way trough church membership. It basically said Luther got it wrong and poisoned the entire world by making them think that the RCC was a works based denomination. It claimed they were not and also the Jews were not.
Connor wrote: I would also say taxpayers should not have to pay for any religion being taught in the schools, like the religion of evolution.
I like your thought and let me add something that might be controversial. There was a time when folks were annoyed because they stopped prayer in schools. To me that was a wonderful thing because I would want no one teaching or praying with my children except me or someone I approved of. In public schools, parents had no way to monitor or influence who taught our kids what or what they prayed for.
Wayfarer Pilgrim wrote: Speak anyhow, when arrested, speak to the jailers, send out letters encouraging believers to speak boldly. And when you're killed in jail for Christ, know that this has been the foundation of the first century church. Preach the word, in season and out of season.
Perfectly said! If we love Christ more than we love the world, the world cannot silence us.
I have always thought that if I lived in a Muslim country, my lifespan would be about 1 hour. I would tell those around me that Mohammed was a false prophet who spoke to demons and he was a murdering pedophile. I think that might do it.
And of course, I would tell them about my loving Savior and God and what He did for mankind.
Shane Windmeyer, executive director of Campus Pride, a pro-LGBT organization, was blunt. â€śTaxpayers should definitely not have to pay for a private college to openly discriminate against anyone.â€ť
Well I am of course not a fan of Oral Roberts Univ., but what this groups is saying is that Christians must accept those who are perverts regardless of what their statements of faith are.
This is one more good reason why organizations should not accept government control of any kind; specifically 501C3 status.
But, even if someone isn't under government control, this blasphemy will simply get worse and worse. It will then be simply called hate speech. The homosexual movement is not satisfied with societal acceptance, but it demands Christian acceptance as well.
Well it is clear to me that many on this post are double-tongued, and they seek to deceive, hiding behind love and the genuine need to spread the gospel. I have looked quite extensively into the dominionist movement and they will say the same thing. â€śIn order to spread the gospel, we have to work our way into the good graces of those we are witnessing toâ€ť, or some similar thought. So, they claim sometimes to stand against the social gospel, but usually not at the expense of the ecumenical leaders they support. Double-tongued. I for one enjoy consistency; especially when I understand an issue. Now for any naysayers, I am not saying I am also not often hypocritical, but I am not the subject in question, nor are my posts. Does anyone really believe that God needs compromise to accomplish his goals?
The Grahams sent thousands of people back to the RCC, which any honest person would say that means they are giving spiritual credence to RC. They offered some type of decisional salvation and then concluded it by sayinggo back to your home churches. If they understand Catholicism and support it, they are not in the body of Christ.
double-tongued marked by deliberate deceptiveness especially by pretending one set of feelings and acting under the influence of another.
pennleope wrote: again we have people who claim to be conservatives who actually behave as liberals who willingly intake FETAL CELL LINES in shots without question! if the mothers receive the penalty for their part, should not the others who take their cell lines ritualistically in their own body? is this not also participating in the abortion, especially in a spiritual sense? OR, are we pragmatics like the pagans who say the flesh of the baby has market value? corporatism without a soul? we remember in scripture that meat dedicated to pagan gods is of no concern to us, but it IS a concern when one is participating in that ritual to somehow gain physical health by gaining life from the one who lost their life.... and this is not animal meat but begins by taking the organs of an unborn child!
Well then by extension you are saying that entering into military service requires someone to partake of the murder of the unborn. All those entering the military or especially those that are stationed in Asian countries are required to have multiple vaccinations. If you don't let them do it, you cannot serve.
Thanks Connor, I tried to include them in my list as voters or those who are silent, but you point is well taken.
ladybug wrote: It isn't surprising that 'SteveR' would defend Graham, for the Grahams are heavily into the Roman Catholic Church and its false teachings. Those who possess discernment can read more about the Grahams and their ties to the RCC at http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/exposes/graham/general.htm It would truly be refreshing if wolves like Steve R. would confess their apostate beliefs and be done with it. Lukewarmness and compromise are both costly.
Good comment sister. IMO the Grahams simply preach a social gospel, as do most pastors, at the expense of the true gospel. The social gospel requires someone to be ecumenical as does dominionism; otherwise no one will listen to them as they don't listen to me. What they fail to realize is that Christ will indeed build His church and He doesn't need compromise to do it. Praise His holy name!
So in their viewpoints they simply want people to behave according some moral law, but they could care less about their souls or the exclusivity of the true gospel.
Anyone who supports the RCC in any way, is my spiritual enemy - period.
I wonder if John Y will read your link. I'll bet he ignores it.
Anyone who practices what the Quran says will either be a terrorist or a terrorist sympathizer. The Quran says all mankind must either convert, pay the infidel tax, or be killed. The only government a true Muslim accepts is an Islamic one. They consider that to be true freedom. They have no separations in their history that makes the killing of those around them go away as does our holy scriptures. Now those that donâ€™t practice Islam can spin the texts to show Islam teaches tolerance. It does not.
Now some might have a hard time thinking that someone can be Muslim in name only. But if we just look around us, we can see million in America that are Christian in name only. They were born into families who professed Christ, so they just naturally think they are and their parents were Christians. They simply are Christian in name only; never born again from above.
Yes, I will love them as my enemies and do them no harm and will present the gospel truth when the occasion arises. That is true love.
A woman undergoing an abortion should be charged and prosecuted for murder. The doctor should also be charged the same way. All others in the facility should be charged and prosecuted for accessory to murder. The ones that support this heinous procedure in their voting or silence are IMO even guiltier than those who participate in these murders and God will deal with them as with the other 2 categories I noted.
Dave wrote: Good , well done Franklin. More needs doing, like a pay cut for starters, denounce the heresies of Roman Catholicism would be another good one. He is standing firm on a lot of issue's ,from a christian point of view, good to see him having a go. Lord bless
Well said Dave. I will say as you do that what he said was morally correct, but he can't possibly bear fruit and I think that is what you are trying to say.
If we don't denounce false Christian leaders then they will confuse many and we will share in their apostasy.
Christian wrote: Christians keep the Sabbath, which was fulfilled in Christ, by resting in Him from their works to gain God's favor. Every day is holy unto the Lord; every day is the Lord's Day. We must live every day as living sacrifices, offering ourselves up to the Lord as His vessels to do His will. If we exalt one day over others, it's easy to lose sight of that calling.
You won't get much support for your opinion on this forum, but I will give you mine. I don't esteem one day over another and I have a Sabbath day rest in Christ 24/7. In other words, I celebrate and acknowledge the Sabbath each and every day I am alive. I don't have to work at all or acknowledge one day above another to obey Him. I don't steal, murder, etc. 24/7
I have no objections at all to those who disagree with me on this issue because I understand their arguments and actually respect them. When God rested from His works, it was a permanent 24/7 rest and His rest and my rest in Christ is simply 24/7.
Jim Lincoln wrote: Frank you will notice even with your statistics, the number is not zero, where a mother life would be compromised by a continued pregnancy. controversy/>http://tinyurl.com/goeztvp (Woman's death prompts abortion debate in Ireland) This shows that it has happened once too often -- so in those --very-- rare instances where this occurs abortion is a necessity. http://tinyurl.com/h8hpagx (Fast Facts: U.S. Abortion Statistics). I would say their own statistics condemns abortions because of preceding fun and games.
Jim, the fact that you continually avoid commenting on the belowparagraph written by the pro-life doctors means you are wrong and not even sincerely wrong. Shame on you.
"When the life of the mother is truly threatened by her pregnancy, if both lives cannot simultaneously be saved, then saving the motherâ€™s life must be the primary aim. If through our careful treatment of the motherâ€™s illness the pre-born patient inadvertently dies or is injured, this is tragic and, if unintentional, is not unethical and is consistent with the pro-life ethic. But the intentional killing of an unborn baby by abortion is never necessary."