John UK wrote:
The Lord Jesus Christ is wonderful!
"Only the perfection of Christ will do..."
To have that perfection imputed to us is the most wonderful thing that can happen to anyone. Who can condemn us when God declares us righteous, even the righteousness of Christ credited to us.
Who shall lay anything to the charge of God's elect?
It is GOD WHO JUSTIFIES. Hallelujah!
The enemies of God hate such biblical teaching. This is why they always go on and on about "works". But they realise not that if they want works to count, they must keep the commandments perfectly, just as the Lord Jesus kept them perfectly. One sin condemns, but faith in the Saviour justifies. Praise God!

I copied the below again for SteveR. I wanted to make sure he read it.

SteveR. Which women did Mother Angelica bring closer to the Lord? She was very famous and extremely influential, so it shouldn't be difficult to name someone. Any women she influenced would of by logic stayed in the RCC or gone into the RCC. I am arguing of course that would not be a postive thing to do but a negative thing to do.

John UK wrote:
Great texts Frank in determining who is a Christian and who isn't. It's a good job God told us this, or we'd struggle to discern the pseudos.
Righteous IN HIM, not of ourselves. Praise God that Jesus has done it ALL, not just some.

Isn't our Lord and Savior WONDERFUL!

SteveR. Which women did Mother Angelica bring closer to the Lord? She was very famous and extremely influential, so it shouldn't be difficult to name someone. Any women she influenced would of by logic stayed in the RCC or gone into the RCC. I am arguing of course that would not be a postive thing to do but a negative thing to do.

SteveR wrote:
She certainly is Christian. To deny that is only asking for judgement on yourself

[19] To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. [21] For he hath made him [to be] sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. (2Cr 5:19, 21 KJV)

[18] He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. [36] He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. (Jhn 3:18, 36 KJV)

NO JUDGMENT!

wrote:
Frank,
Her name is Mother Angelica.
She is clueless concerning the Gospel of Grace.
She is a heretict

John UK wrote:
Morning Frank,
Seeming paradoxes can remain just that for me.
Roman Catholicism is certainly an organisation not a church. Deluded.
SteveR is very nasty, and I suspect he cannot help it, which is why he MUST BE BORN AGAIN.

I actually prayed for SteveR last night. I forgave him and asked the Lord not to hold his negative comments "towards me", against him. And for his salvation.

It was interesting that he noted the circumcision of the heart. And yet, he holds to those who profess that sacraments or a baptism can circumcise our hearts. I remember someone asking Mother (whats her name ?) on the Catholic channel how someone is saved. She said ( I am obviously paraphrasing here); join the RCC, partake of all the sacraments; and make sure you confess all your sins. Or something like that. she never once mentioned Christ being their Lord and Savior and being born again.

Amusing wrote:
I, Me, Myself and Legion?!

John UK wrote:
Just in case anyone wanted to do a little study on the four main views, this article by Phil should help.

I am going to rename my meditation on Catholicism and leave out the word cult. That way SteveR might want a copy of it. What do you think?

SteveR wrote:
Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?
The differentiation between Infralapsarianism and Supralapsarianism has to do with the order of eternal decrees resulting in election, not any bizarre assignment for evil. And its not one or the other as there are other views like Arminianism & Amyraldism

Perhaps it would be a good idea if you asked for clarification the next time before you resort to insults?

Christopher000 wrote:
Good summary, Frank. That's the way I was leaning; the last paragraph...the way you were able to make sound sensical.

Scripture teaches that in God’s mind I was chosen and saved before the foundation of the world. Therefore, I and my sins were known by God before He created anything.

Now what choices did God have in the creation of "mankind"?

1. He couldn’t have created other divine beings.
2. Creating robots without free-will would be out of the question.
3. So, the only choice He had was to create beings with free-will.

Now since God is all knowing, He would have known that Adam would fall due to his free-will; the same as He knew that I would be a sinner. Now, the question as to whether or not He is the author of my evil.

jamesc wrote:
The definition of pornography has changed/degenerated over the years. What you commonly see on the magazine racks at the grocery stores or what some people wear at the beach would be considered pornography or indecent 50 years ago. So, in essence, our kids are seeing 'porn' every day. This is a debauched culture that worships the god of sex. I often use the surveys at grocery stores to complain about the filthy magazines. Somebody has to. I have not had the courage to take one of these magazines up to the manager for a discussion about common sense and decency. It is definitely difficult as a Christian man to live a sanctified life with this refuse everywhere. Almost have to walk around with your head down these days.

ignored wrote:
He has! And Polycarp was 86 at his death as history records.
I thought you were ignoring me because I'm not good enough to debate with you?
_________________

Do you have problems with english too?

John UK wrote:
Ah yes, bro.
Lamentations 3 shows that even prophets got really confused at the Lord. What is he DOING to me?
Great points you made, very well!

EXCELLENT SCRIPTURE!

Lurker wrote:
From the same article....
"Yes, we baptize babies. Unmistakably Scriptural proof substantiates that doctrine. Christian history, unbroken and uninterrupted. reflects such practice in each generation. Conscientious Christians do not delay but hasten with their children to Baptism that they may received the gift of salvation and regeneration and gratefully embrace the Apostle’s affirmation extended to those of all age groups: "For as many of you as have been baptized have put on Christ" (Galatians 3: 27)."
At least this fellow is honest enough to confess that infant baptism imparts salvation and regeneration by the putting on of Christ. So what need of the gospel Paul preached.... the power of God unto salvation?

John UK wrote:
A 101 meditation?
On Sunday our preacher was saying that Jesus harshly rebuked the wind because it was an attack by the devil on the Lord and his people. I'd never thought about that possibility.
Mark 4:39 KJV
39 And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm.
What power!! With the waves crashing over the ship, and nearly sinking, wind howling and rainstorm pouring and thunder sounding. One word and it is calm as a duckpond.

Thanks for the verses from Mark! We all wrestle with God and I don't really think that is a bad thing for believers. If someone is wrestling, then they have faith; if someone never wrestles, then I'm not sure they are in the faith? Just look at all the wrestling matches the prophets fought and lost.

But, there will be a day when all wrestling and doubt ceases.

Deu. 29:29

Habakkuk 1:2-4

John UK wrote:
Thanks for all those scriptures, Frank. It is God speaking to us.

Many of the prophets got mad at God for doing stuff; many questioned Him and His righteousness; Jeremiah even accusing Him of being like a deceptive stream. But, in "most cases" God never justified Himself before them, but either reproved them or simply ignored them.

When I do that, He usually ignores me.

Mr b wrote:
Franks explanation , I agree with that . It's straight from the bible.

[15] Precious in the sight of the LORD [is] the death of his saints. (Psa 116:15 KJV)

[7] I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these [things]. (Isa 45:7 KJV)

[6] Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done [it]? (Amo 3:6 KJV)

[2] Wherefore should the heathen say, Where [is] now their God? [3] But our God [is] in the heavens: he hath done whatsoever he hath pleased. (Psa 115:2-3)

Verses 9-12 could be referring to the Jews in general, prior to the giving of the Mosaic law. Prior to conversion or post-conversion make no sense. "Paul was always under the law so when he uses the word “I� he can’t be referring to himself", but to historical Jews in general. It could easily be that he was simply referring back to his thought in Romans 5.