Lady_Virtue wrote: Bible readers shouldn't be surprised by this (Genesis 2:15; Psalm 104:23; I Timothy 5:8). God gave men a capacity and strength to labour so they can provide for their own, specially those of their own house. Women are not meant to do this or to compete against men in this arena. Of course, God does give women work, keeping house and as keepers at home (Psalm 113:9; Titus 2:3-5). Guiding the house (I Timothy 5:14) is honourable as done unto the Lord; it is not degrading or second best.
Very well said sister! The Lord designed men and women differently. The genders have been so intertwined that even the genuine church is confused. Now if the church has been confused, it is no wonder that the cultures of the world are confused.
When possible, women should stay at home and raise their children and provide a Godly home for their husbands. If they have spare time, then charitable work is also a wonderful thing for them to do.
Now before the naysayers start, I am not saying that all women can do this, but it should the the goal or desire of all women.
Mike, my spirit was born completely and totally dead. If something is dead, then it is dead and must be made alive before it can comprehend anything spiritual. Now repenting and being born again is certainly the most spiritual thing that can happen to us. Therefore any decision or understanding we have or think we have must have come from the Spirit who drew us and gave us the spirit of truth and repentance. This truth or decision which you allude to cannot be comprehended by our carnal natures; therefore we can take no credit for it which is what you are trying to do.
Sounds a little like which came first, the chicken or the egg. Well they both had to be present at the same time for either to exist. Maybe a bad analogy.
Since I believe the Lord chose me for some mysterious reason which I don't comprehend and I certainly don't think it was because of some inherent goodness or wisdom that I had. All that the Father gives to the Son, "will" come to the Son and those who come He will not cast out, but will raise them on the last day.
According to the above, I don't even have the ability to decide not to follow Him. I am one of His sheep and if I stray, He is faithful to go after me.
The calling and elections of God are permanent and since He is totally omniscient, He doesnât need a plan B.
 Thus saith the LORD; If ye can break my covenant of the day, and my covenant of the night, and that there should not be day and night in their season;  [Then] may also my covenant be broken with David my servant, that he should not have a son to reign upon his throne; and with the Levites the priests, my ministers.  As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, neither the sand of the sea measured: so will I multiply the seed of David my servant, and the Levites that minister unto me.  Moreover the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah, saying,  Considerest thou not what this people have spoken, saying, The two families which the LORD hath chosen, he hath even cast them off? thus they have despised my people, that they should be no more a nation before them.  Thus saith the LORD; If my covenant [be] not with day and night, [and if] I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth;  Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob, and David my servant, [so] that I will not take [any] of his seed [to be] rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them. (Jer 33:20-26)
Jim Lincoln wrote: it is shaping up to be another right-wing nut doing this murder. Here is a 4 minute video that seems to work on my mobile device. http://tinyurl.com/hg5fqso
Well Jim, let's see if we can use some of your psychology training to unmask what you are saying.
This fellow is noted as being a far right winger. What he actually is, is a neo-nazi. And of course the lady that was murdered was an extreme left winger in her party.
Christian fundamentalists are noted as being extreme far right wingers by the left and of course by most all of the media.
Therefore, according to your agenda, Christian fundamentalists are the same as the neo-Nazis. That is why you noted that Hillary was a paragon of virtue when compared to the republican candidates. You really do believe that.
I am of course going by your history of comments and your "word" comparisons that you think will brainwash folks on this forum.
 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?  And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?  And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in [them]; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.  Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean [thing]; and I will receive you,  And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty. (2Co 6:14-18)
Well parrot, for starters the above verse 18 is dependent on verses 14-17; especially verses 16 and 17.
Now, since you attend the RCC, according to your own testimony, you are not a son of the most high. That is your testimony and I only posted this for the occasional viewer who "might" be confused by your comment. Last one!
Brother Observer You said the same thing I am saying, but with "much" fewer characters.
Thanks Observer and Chris for your concurrence. Now we will see what the fallout is concerning this issue. This type of brainwashing has been taking place for years and it will just get worse and worse.
Yes Chris and in 1857, the Mormons slaughtered 120 people.
Well it appears the media is using what used to be called âtrial balloonsâ to manipulate the conclusion of this terrorist attack. They are now going to push hard for the homosexual hatred explanation. They will maintain that this poor fellow was a semi-closet homosexual and if not for the hatred that Islam and Christianity have for homosexuals; none of this would have happened. He would have simply âcame outâ and then lived a happy fulfilled life. They will use Islam and Christianity as if they are one and the same; bigoted and out of date religions. They have already done that with feminism and it is an effective tactic.
I am not trying to play prophet here, but it does appear this is the new agenda. Islam will only become pertinent as it relates to Christianity and what the world calls our bigoted world views.
But on the positive side, it will allow the wheat to be separated from the tares and many will cave in to this new agenda. Yes, both religions are against this abomination, but Islam believes they have the authority to murder them whereas Christians believe they should repent and turn from that sin. Paul said "and such were some of you" which of course means they weren't put to death before conversion.
Observer wrote: Hey bro That's what I found out too: Excerpt from a website: "...Floridaâs law on where people can carry guns is very clear: From the relevant statute (790.06): (12)(a)âA license issued under this section does not authorize any person to openly carry a handgun or carry a concealed weapon or firearm into: . . . 12.âAny portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose;.." Them pesky guns just can't read the law and keep going in places where they're clearly prohibited. Maybe Hitlery can find out the manufacturers of these weapons and help the families sue the firm. That'll teach them to manufacture these lethal weapons. BTW, d'ya suppose if she becomes POTUS that she'll also sue the manufacturers of the airplanes that were flown into the WTC? On a more serious note, I agree with yours of 12:13pm
Thanks for your agreement with my earlier post brother. Difficult topic to address based on the circumstances. I actually read some of the hate speech that Westboro in Orlando put out. They are a cult plain and simple.
Mike wrote: It does baffle how one can shoot 50 in an enclosed area, with no response by any to crush him with the sheer numbers of people that were there.
I agree Mike, but just a minor point, he shot over 100. That is the first thing I told my wife. Why didn't they just charge him. She sort of disagreed with me and clearly thought they did what most folks would do or even should do. I think the problem is that most cannot fathom what is taking place and think they may survive by doing running or lying down on the floor, etc. That may work to an extent, but I will say if several had charged him, then who knows?
Or perhaps some did and we just don't know it yet, but I tend to doubt that.
Brother Observer, great seeing you post. It is my understanding that all places in Florida that serve alcohol are gun free zones and those with a permit to carry cannot do it there.
Scripture teaches that in many cases God says He hates the sinner as well as the sin. IMO it is okay to say that He hates the sinners in some circumstances, but to always believe it. But,to say it in immediate response to an incident like this doesnât necessarily mean non-adherence to PC, but compassion for those who are left behind. There is a time and a place for everything. Sooner or later, the truth that God hates this sin and those who practice it must be stated.
But to letâs say a Christian attends one of these funerals or are asked to give a contemporaneous public response and they pronounce Godâs judgment and hatred on them is the same as what Westboro Baptist church would do. Ezekiel 18:23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD:and not that he should return from his ways, and live?
I believe the âgreaterâ evil that will be done is that the country and most of the professing church will rally around the homosexual cause and anyone that says that it is an abomination in Godâs eyes will be ostracized or be guilty of hate speech. IOW, it will further this cause rather than decrease it.
I have prayed for the loved ones of these folks and will pray this brings about the soon return of my Lord and Savior!
I always consider death to be such a relief but at the same time Iâm not sure what my thoughts would be when that time comes. Paul believed that if Christ left him here, then there must be a purpose for it otherwise he would be called home. We should simply desire the Lordâs will be done and any death assistance from some doctor is sin. I think He can take my life when it is according to His good pleasure.
I also think it is interesting that Paul understood that he would not serve Christâs church after death. No praying to him after he was with the Lord like the RCC does.
 For to me to live [is] Christ, and to die [is] gain.  But if I live in the flesh, this [is] the fruit of my labour: yet what I shall choose I wot not.  For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better:  Nevertheless to abide in the flesh [is] more needful for you.  And having this confidence, I know that I shall abide and continue with you all for your furtherance and joy of faith; (Phl 1:21-25 KJV)
 Precious in the sight of the LORD [is] the death of his saints. (Psa 116:15 KJV)
Everybody that lives will in fact die if the Lord tarries. It is appointed unto man once to die and then glory for "all" Christians.
Christopher000 wrote: Sure is interesting how these are allowed to immigrate to a better life, and being given the opportunity to start over in saftey, having escaped the ravages of war, and what do they do? They settle onto someone elses land, and into neighborhoods who welcomed them, and they begin harassing the locals for not being of the foreign religion that they brought in with them. The locals aren't harassing them for not being Christians, but the foreigners, the visitors, the immigrants, those who plead for their help, are harassing generations of locals for not being Muslim. Crazy.
Good comments by all! Anyway, I am in email communications with a retired Christian doctor in Germany and he tells me that some of the refugees in villages are close in number to the actual residents. They often enter into stores and simply take stuff in public sight. The authorities are afraid to arrest them because of the political fall-out.
We are experiencing God's judgment on the whole world. It would be better and safer to simply build them refugee cities in their respective countries and then have some type of international protection.
I remember when you had show your passport to travel from one European country to another;no more
I simply believe Hillary shouldnât be allowed to run for public office, much less be elected, âsolely because she is a womanâ. If she were a godly woman, she would be at home or doing charitable work. She is part of our national judgment.
 [As for] my people, children [are] their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause [thee] to err, and destroy the way of thy paths. (Isa 3:12 KJV)
 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman [is] the man; and the head of Christ [is] God. (1Co 11:3 KJV)
 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.  For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,  Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,  Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;  Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.  For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,  Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. (2Ti 3:1-7 KJV)
M ike wrote: When Moore shows as much concern for Hillary as he does for Trump, then he will become credible when speaking about the state of souls.
I agree with your comment and understand it simply to mean the possible or probable hypocrisy of Russell Moore. I am glad you didnât mention all of those who Moore could have named, but didnât. I think Hillary and Trump were sufficient for your argument since they are certainly the opposing agenda today.
Anyway, I know little about Russell Moore, but I have a "preconceived" problem with anyone who sits in a position and determines what is ethical or moral and what is not and then passes that down through the chain and it is taught to those in their universities and often becomes church dogma. I remember a pastor in Germany that I knew that said most universities simply produced pastors who were like they were cut out with cookie cutters.
I believe this fellow actually attended a conference at the Vatican, enough said.
I can't imagine just how giddy he must have felt. Like George Bush looking in the eyes of the pope and then declaring he saw God in them.
Jim Lincoln wrote: The Pope should get his facts correct, http://tinyurl.com/gllcawj ( No, Jesus was not a socialist ) . The author of the article should not have directed it to Bernie Sanders who doesn't hide the fact that he isn't a Christian, and should have directed it towards the Emissary of Satan who pretends that he is.
Yes, but surely you know that Hillary also says she is a Christian and claims her thoughts on social/moral issues are supported by scripture. Perhaps you are saying that your claimed "paragon of virtue" (Hillary) is also lying about her faith or is she somewhat more superior to Bernie, et al. who don't claim they are in Christ?
Why is it that only RCs or conservatives are liars and are dangerous to mankind?
IMO, you resurrected this issue for some trollish purpose, so hence my response. Last one on this Jim.