Some of the recent goings on in Christian celebrity circles, like this incident and whatever incidents that may have taken place surrounding Sovereign Grace Ministries and CJ Mahaney and so forth, only goes to prove a certain principle. And that is that Christians need to stop putting other Christians on pedestals. No matter how "godly" or "humble" they appear or how many "blessings" we've recieved from their material, they are not to be exalted beyond measure, either openly or within our own hearts and they are to be subject to the same Berean scrutiny that even the Apostls Paul himself was subject to. In fact Paul had a proper perspective on "celebrities" Gal 2:6 But of these who seemed to be somewhat, (whatsoever they were, it maketh no matter to me: God accepteth no man's person for they who seemed to be somewhat in conference added nothing to me: This is a healthy approach regarding "Christian celebrities" because after all, the best of men are men at best.
1517 wrote: John for Jesus, I can empathize with you. I was in the Navy for a number of years and still cannot understand the idea that we all are equal but have different standards. If this does not point out a significant readiness issue, I don't know what will.
The only equality the military is interested in is equality of outcome. That's socialistic in nature and stadards have to be manipulated to achieve that end. This talk of equality is nothing more than that. Talk.
Someone suggested listening to a defense of CS Lewis. I went ahead and took that advice. I found the defense weak and insulting to the inteligence of the average human being, to say nothing of the discerning Christian. Put the theology of a CS Lewis in the lap of CH Spurgeon or Jonathan Edwards and you would not have heard them say that he "says a lot of wrong things," but he would have been dismissed as a heretic. We have mastered the art of the understatement nowadays and understatement is no defense. By the way, if you're that anxious to consume C.S. Lewis and your local"Christian bookstore has run out of his material, you will most likely find iy at your local occult book store. They like him too.
Deanna wrote: And the majority of these "mega churches" preach the prosperity Gospel and not the true Word of God. If my memory serves correctly it was Joel Osteen that told Larry King that he didn't know if Muslims were going to hell. I'm not sure that Joel knows the living God, seems he's created his own God in his mind... Idolatry. People want their ears tickled, not the truth and Joel gives them what they want to hear.
So does Tim Keller, who told Martin Bashir that he didn't know what happens to people who die without Christ, and that homosexuality was not a sin that sends you to hell. These departures from the faith to tickle the ears of men are no longer isolated to the Joel Osteens and the Tony Campolos but they are beginning to flourish in so-called "conservative churches" also.
Perhaps God is working to draw him toward Christ, but it doesn't seem he's there yet. While no one starts out with full maturity, we must start out with CHRIST. If anyone believes we can have the peace of God without Christ they are woefully decieved. I pray this man will know thw peace of God in Christ.
Looks like this little euphemism this pastor uses can be more accurately applied to his own church.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 2Ti 3:8-9 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.
Great Sermon! Billy Graham has has a plank comprised of decades of [selling out the gospel type] compromise to pull out of his eye before he can be taken seriously when he calls any nation to repentance.
Some time ago, Daniel Fuller (who was the guru of John Piper)introduced a doctrine of biblical inerrancy that declared the Bible to be inerrant only in areas of spiritual information and not in science, history or the origin of the universe. This doctrine became orthodoxy at Fuller and ultimately undermined the authority of the Bible at Fuller. From there on in it was downhill for that seminary. Apostasy does not stand still, it has motion. So it should not be surprising to see such a departure from sound doctrine and practice and more departures to come in the future from this institution.
Articles in Christianity Today should be taken with the same grain of salt that you would take from reading the New York Times. Just like there will be a slant towards socialism, sodomites and Obama in the New York Times, there will be a more liberalized slant in Christianity Today regarding issues in the church. This has always been the case since its founding and continues to be so.
Thank You Billy Graham sold out the Gospel in order to preach the Gospel, by bringing together the holy and the profane, eventually even proclaiming that a man can be saved without ever having heard of Christ or the Bible. (I guess we can call all our missionaries home now)Popularity does not make a preacher a true man of God. But calling the enemies of Christ servants of Christ will definitely make him popular (as Graham has done). Franklin is just following in his father's footsteps. Instead of getting our feathers ruffled whenever an individual like Billy Graham is exposed, why don't we pray that God would revive His church? I guess that'sa asking too much.
Mike wrote: Sorry for butting in...oh well, not really. Wouldn't it be more edifying if Steve and Observer could back off the name calling? No matter how solid you think you may be, it isn't about you. And if you actually care about the truth, it isn't personal, so give the personal attacks a rest.