Ladybug, Lurker,& penned, Considering the ad hominem remark that was just posted below and the proverbial straw man that is always brought in to these discussions when they cannot make a biblical stance I am bowing out of this thread.... Have enjoyed the fellowship with you all. To everyone...have a blessed Lords Day!
John UK wrote: Those who have experienced the anointing of the Spirit upon them while preaching, witnessing, or telling their children the glorious gospel of God's grace, have no problem believing that the anointing of the Spirit can also come upon those to whom they preach. Preachers who believe in "effectual calling" are more likely to cross land and sea in order to win the lost, because they realise it is a work of God in the heart of men that saves, rather than their ability to persuade men to convert. You can always tell those who believe in "effectual calling", because before the gospel meeting begins or the open-air tract distribution starts, they will ask God to bless both the preaching AND the hearing of his word to the salvation of precious souls.
Saving faith is a spiritual act, one who is spiritually dead cannot perform it. The Spirit quickens the soul in order to capacitate it unto a saving faith in Christ. Note carefully the order in 2 Thessalonians 2:13,"God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth". "the santification of the Spirit" is His impartation of life, and this precedes our "belief in the truth".
***footnote, concerning my previous post. Pastor Ovadal does not have the Graham's on his program. I should have said he addresses issues concerning the Graham's that are problematic. After rereading my post, I thought I should clarify that.
To God Be The Glory..... "Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began." 2 Timothy 1:9 Oh that man would give God all the glory.....!!
The doctrines of grace are glorious, and we should stop trying to put the proverbial 'square peg in the round hole' by using human barometers to figure out Almighty God. Either we have the Sovereign God of the Bible, or we have deified men and women who can manipulate His Will, and then determine by fallen human standards what is 'fair'. Man can never caim any spiritual territory for himself.The exaltation of man's thinking over God's is at best foolishness, and at worst, devilish. (Gen. 3:5)
Strat... What is your problem? What have I ever posted that would warrant such an attack as what you just posted. What's with the chip on your shoulder attitude in nearly all your comments? All I see in your comments is false accusations and anger.... Good evening.
Would someone point me to the comments that says they hate Jews....Can't seem to locate them...unless someone is bearing false witness against some of us who believe the Bible teaches that those who are Gods children (born again) are the true spiritual Israel of God.
John UK wrote: Not good enough, Jim. You claim it has errors still, and you can't tell me where those errors are, otherwise I could publish a perfect Bible which is inerrant. Oh but hang on, it's already been published, and it's called THE KING JAMES BIBLE. Inerrant and inspired, just like the heroes of faith claimed so many years ago. That is, until Westcott and Hort turned up out the blue, Anglicans who infiltrated the Revised Version Committee with a completely new greek text never been seen before til 1881, which greek text was a rough compilation of two Roman Catholic-held texts called Vaticanus and Sinaiticus, basically from which all modern versions have been translated, despite there being a consensus of around 5,000 greek mss which tally with the KJV and so received by the church that they are collectively called The Received Text. But you'll see this all in due course, after you jettison your beloved unregenerate higher critics who despise the gospel and do not believe God is capable of preserving his word intact through copyists.
Jim would do well to acquaint himself with the litte booklet put out by TBS 'What today's Christian needs to know about Dr. Kurt Aland"....Textual Critic?
Michael... I can only answer you with scripture: ***************** "And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as we're ordained to eternal life believed." Acts 13:48. Not quite sure what singing the Psalms only has to do with it. That is only the way that some have been convicted to praise and worship the Lord. SALVATION IS OF THE LORD. Praise God, hallejuah , amen.
Michel, What you say is true concerning a FEW who post here. But those of us who believe the doctrine of grace, as the Bible so plainly teaches, do not fall into that category. Most who post on this board give all the glory to GOD for their salvation, not John Calvin. My small mite.