spiritualdwarf originally posted a comment that spiritualdwarf viewed as in the the wrong thread. Yet God has seen fit to allow remaining a statement that states "Whoops wrong topic"
Penned then comes along and reminds us that the original topic is about something else than what has occupied this thread for two days.
Have we been given two witnesses from God to move on from what we have been encamped at for two days?
I don't know the answer to my question. If He wants us to at this point move on I am certainly agreeable. If He wants us to stay encamped dealing for the next five years with what we have been dealing with for the last two days I am also agreeable to that. What God wants me to do is what interests me.
In any case, I am leaving now and, Lord willing, will return tomorrow to see what direction has been chosen.
At 9/21/14 5:36 PM I illustrated what I view as an insulting question concerning Dolores and Michael Hranek as well as what I view as a demeaning statement about both by Peaceable.
I then asked the question to Peaceable about his statements:
Did the Holy Spirit indicate to you that you should say that? If so, I would love to see you illustrate it.
He replied three minutes later by quoting from me what I just quoted in the last paragraph. As well as asking the question of me:
Did the Holy Spirit indicate to you that you should ask that question? If so, I would love to see you illustrate it.
My answer to your question is yes Peaceable He did. For you see Jesus Christ is come in the flesh and as 1 John 4:1-2 plainly reveals I am to try the spirits for they are not all of God:
"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:"
Some of the spirits not of God are from unsaved unregenerate men and women.
Some of the spirits not of God are from the ungodly "old man"'s carnal nature that dwells in every saved born again Christian man and woman.
Dopey,... My husband had 5 stents put in one artery( the widow maker) my son said. The main one, the one that if it blocks will kill you instantly and 2 in another and he is not even saved. So most of us are at a time in our lives we need to try to help and pray for each other in our troubles... A few on here care in a christian way and I thank God for them...
Nine years ago this October in a hospital in Toronto a team of several doctors and several nurses came and advised me to return to my city, monitor my condition, and if problems arose return to Toronto.
About an hour later one man came and advised me to totally ignore what the "team" had said and go ahead with a triple by pass operation already scheduled, because I would probably die quickly if I didn't.
The man realizing I was in difficulty, facing advice from 2 sources, "the team" vs 1 person, pressed his case further.
He told me he was the surgeon that would perform the scheduled operation and that he would have given the same advice to his father had his father been in the same situation.
His stand against "the team", probably causing him problems, and his testimony that he cared for me as much as his father made me take the operation.
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
Jesus Christ came to cause division as Matthew 10:34-36 clearly states
2 Corinthians 13:5 KJV
Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
I have done what is commanded of me in 2 Corinthians 13:5. Have you? I have had God witness to me since I was saved over 40 years ago, that I am in fact saved and not a reprobate, in spite of my numerous failings.
Perhaps I am only one of the two people here, along with Dolores, that has failed God since they were saved. Perhaps the rest of you are so spiritual you never fail God. (I know John Uk and Michael Hranek would not admit to never having failed God after they were saved.)
I know that God has witnessed to me that Jesus Christ is in me.
I find it amazing many of you have never considered the possibility that Jesus Christ in me is continuing to do through me what He promised to do in Matthew 10:36
spiritualdwarf wrote: Matthew 6: 6 KJV 'But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly'
There is an obvious reason for not posting our private prayers on a public forum when I look at Dopey's post and maybe not even some of our private 'odd' thoughts Troll Spotter
spiritualdwarf you misrepresent the prayer for it is a public prayer in a public forum
Have you never seen public prayers in public forums? If so, you haven't seen much.
I have seen too numerous to count public prayers in pubic forums.
Peaceable wrote: Check out Troll Spotters post 9/20/14 1:57 PM, accusing you of sowing discord. He named 2 specifics - your contretemp with Observer (I could add Lurker), and your encouraging the 2 resident RCC trolls. His quotes from your previous posting history clearly bear out his allegations. You said 9/20/14 2:41 PM I will answer your false allegations the same way I answered the foolishness of Not duped by dopey. That is, to invite you to start quoting me directly in regard to some of your perceived past transgressions on my part and we will deal with them directly. And you and I will play Haman and Mordecai, Not duped by dopey having refused to play. Well, TS certainly picked up the baton and exposed your lie that the allegations were false. So, we're all waiting with baited breath for your refutation.
BTW guilt is established at the mouth of two or three witnesses. We don't need your pretended direct revelations from the Holy Spirit.
I have checked out every post of Troll Spotter gave in reference to me since I came back and I stand by what you quoted from me at 2:41PM and leave it to the judgement seat of Christ to sort out who had it wrong between you and I in regard to what you quoted from me in regard to you at 2:41 PM
Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
Father, in the name of my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ I thank you for the reviling, persecution and evil falsely spoken of against Michael Hranek and myself. For you have truly blessed me through it as I found myself able to rejoice and be exceeding glad.
As you know Father, I considered last night the possibility I was about to die last night because of the severe medical problems I was encountering last night. One of which, was a short prelude two heart attacks I had close to nine years ago and which came very close to killing me.
I wasn't expecting to be rejoicing and being exceeding glad on earth today but I find that I am thanks to you!!!
I listened and watched 10 minutes and 45 seconds of the video and concluded it would be very beneficial to listen to and watch the entire video. So,I downloaded it to listen to and watch the entire video at a later time.
GSTexas wrote: Before Dopey left, he made all manner of irreverent and belligerent remarks that in my opinion are not justifiable. I did feel at the time he was being very facetious, just to stir everyone up. All that said, this time around Im gonna just wait and see how he behaves himself before I jump on the pro or no Dopey bandwagon.
GSTexas my dear friend
1 Corinthians 1:12-13 KJV
Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
Was Troll Spotter or Dopey crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Troll Spotter or Dopey? Don't jump on either the Troll Spotter or Dopey bandwagon. For truly that is not what God wants.
Dolores wrote: Thanks, Dopey, for the advice of sleeping on your back with a pillow under your knees. That really works because I've had to do that when my back gets really bad ever now and then...Have a good day, Dopey.
Dolores my dear sister
I remember with fondness your kind association with me before I left for several months.
I sometimes wondered while away if some "Christians" were figuratively bashing you over the head for liking me. If so, I trust God held you up for:
Romans 8:28 KJV
And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
the following is a response to your 9/21/14 6:53 AM post:
2 Peter 3:16 KVJ
As also in all his [Paul the Apostle's] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
One of several principles revealed by that Scripture is that sometimes the Holy Spirit uses a saved person to write things that are "hard to be understood". That is something the Holy Spirit did in the first century AD. Is it any different in the 21st century AD? Is the Holy Spirit still using the same principle of sometimes using a saved person to write some things "hard to be understood"?
Malachi 3:6 KJV
For I am the LORD, I change not;...
Paul the Apostle also wrote some things very easy to understand in his writings so the principle amplified is that sometimes the Holy Spirit uses a saved person to write things easy to understand and sometimes things "hard to be understood".
Malachi 3:6 testifies to the truth that the Holy Spirit is also using that principle today in regard to the writings of some saved people.
I see one of MR. Spurgeon's two September 21 messages (Morning and Evening: Daily Readings) is:
â€śGrieve not the Holy Spirit.â€ť Ephesians 4:30
"All that the believer has must come from Christ, but it comes solely through the channel of the Spirit of grace. Moreover, as all blessings thus flow to you through the Holy Spirit, so also no good thing can come out of you in holy thought, devout worship, or gracious act, apart from the sanctifying operation of the same Spirit. Even if the good seed be sown in you, yet it lies dormant except he worketh in you to will and to do of his own good pleasure. Do you desire to speak for Jesusâ€”how can you unless the Holy Ghost touch your tongue? Do you desire to pray? Alas! what dull work it is unless the Spirit maketh intercession for you! Do you desire to subdue sin? Would you be holy? Would you imitate your Master? Do you desire to rise to superlative heights of spirituality? Are you wanting to be made like the angels of God, full of zeal and ardour for the Masterâ€™s cause? You cannot without the Spiritâ€”â€śWithout me ye can do nothing.â€ť O branch of the vine, thou canst have no fruit without the sap! O child of God, thou hast no life within thee apart from the life which God gives thee through his Spirit! Then let us not grieve him..
Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves. Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.
Christopher000 wrote: I would like to see a response to Troll Spotters last post if possible.
Troll Spotters last post in relationship to when you made your statement at 9/20/14 6:10 PM was 9/20/14 6:01 PM and tomorrow I will respond to it, Lord willing:
James 4:14 KJV
Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life [Chrisopher000, Troll Spotter, Dopey and everyone else]? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away. For that ye ought to say, If the Lord will, we shall live, and do this, or that.
In fact I may even begin to respond to Troll Spotter again in spite of what I said at 9/20/14 5:49 PM. For he later said something that I was not aware of. And if true it gives me authorization to respond to him again. Not that I am accusing him of lying I just need time to make sure that what he stated is accurate.
However, I am tired so I will leave now and return sometime tomorrow, Lord willing.
Thanks for your kind greeting to me the other day after my several months absense. If the Rapture occurs tonight I trust I will be seeing you in places sooner than I expected.
I notice Troll Spotter that you have refused to give all the dates, times and links to the threads and the places in the threads of everything you quote from me from past posts of mine.
Are you expecting your readers to believe what you say about what I have said because you say it is so? If so you are not being Scriptural:
2 Thessalonians 5:21 KJV
Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
Since you refuse, so far, to enable your readers to do what they are commanded by God in 2 Thessalonians 5:21, I will not deal with you further until you provide every single date, time and link to every thread and the places in the thread from which you have quoted from me or will yet quote from me in this thread, in regard to past quotes from me.
Troll Spotter wrote: Observer wrote: Your inability to think sure entitles you to use that moniker...
Troll Spotter what is your point? I thought you were out to illustrate my imperfections not Observer's.
Allow me to add editorial notes with brackets to what I quoted from you so the reader will understand more:
Observer wrote: Your inability [Dopey] to think sure entitles you [Dopey] to use that moniker[Dopey]...
What I quoted from you Troll Spotter illustrates Observer charging me with the inability to "think". So I ask again Troll Spotter are you out to illustrate my imperfections or Observer's imperfections?
Whether I can think or not I leave to people to conclude from reading this entire thread from first to last post.