I think SteveR has met his match with Troll Spotter who won't just sit back and absorb his unwarranted, misplaced abuse and attacks. I used to do it but got pretty tired of him because it was never ending. No matter how nice a person would be to him, and no matter how hard and long someone tried to reach out, he would attack visiously whenever anyones opinion didn't match his own, and it continues. I don't know if he's a little guy who gets bullied at work with this being his anger outlet, or what, but to see a supposed born again Christian act as he does is very odd, andthen claim to be filled to ooverflowing with the Holy Spirit? Just strange.
Christopher000 from Rhode Island writes: Let's take a good, hard look at mother Teresa. Sbe swore an oath of poverty and spent her life helping the poorest of the poor as advocate and surrogate mother. The world extolled her piety and was in awe of her holiness. Mother Teresa was, at the same time, a hard core Roman Catholic who believed and practiced every associated false doctrine, ritual, and was fully immersed in the worship of Mary. SteveR, according to God's Word, is she in Heaven? If so, what in particular nullified the various false doctrines she chose to believe in this life, not to mention her devotion to Mary?
If you don't answer, it simply proves my point that you can never back up a single thing you say when attacking those who speak out against Roman doctrines. Waiting to be blown away and put to shame with your answer...
Yeah, hard to say, John. The doubt, which is completely natural, is precisely why I have never shared my experience(s). I've always hated knowing that it couldn't possibly be believed fully, and as far as the forum, there are a couple of people I don't even want reading it so I'm not quite sure how to get around that. I might just have to suck it up and just make it public anyway because I know some of you are really interested and would believe it as much as you are able to.
Valid points, Helps. Thinking of myself for an example, if I were to relate an experience or two, I wouldn't make anything up or change a single word because I just don't understand the point of lying in any way. Not to mention, I don't understand how any born again Christian can think God would be okay with it, etc. As for writing books, it's a great way to get a message throughout the world, but I also understand that the consideration of money can corrupt, not to mention that publishers always want a manuscript that holds attention throughout which causes many authors to expound a bit beyond actual experience.
23 minutes in Hell is another book I've read. I know what many say about these experiences, types of books, etc, but I always wonder at the same time how any born again Christian could/would write and communicate lies on such a grand scale with no fear of God. I can understand someone who doesn't really believe and wanting to make a quick buck, but it's always hard for me to believe that any born again Christian would relate and promote such storys if they weren't accurate and true.
Since there's no interest in this particular thread...has anyone read Heaven is for Real? I read it, well, listened to it yesterday. Throughout the story, the mother and father, over a long span of time, ask Colton what Jesus looked like; always showing him pictures of varying likenesses whenever they would come across them, whether in magazines, drawings, churches, bioks, whatever. Coltons response was always, "no" when asked the question, "is this Him"? One day, he was shown a painting by Akiana Kramarik, child prodigy, entitled, "Prince of Peace, the resurrection", and his response was, "yeah, that's Him". I just found it interesting. The one thing in the story that made me think was when his parents were asking him if he had seen various people. One person they named was Mary and Colton said he saw her and she was worshipping at the throne. Just wondering if anyone has read it and your thoughts.
Let's take a good, hard look at mother Teresa. Sbe swore an oath of poverty and spent her life helping the poorest of the poor as advocate and surrogate mother. The world extolled her piety and was in awe of her holiness. Mother Teresa was, at the same time, a hard core Roman Catholic who believed and practiced every associated false doctrine, ritual, and was fully immersed in the worship of Mary. SteveR, according to God's Word, is she in Heaven? If so, what in particular nullified the various false doctrines she chose to believe in this life, not to mention her devotion to Mary?
Thanks Ladybug and TS...I wish he was still able to have civil conversations.
TS, no...I quoted pretty much verbatim so it must be in there somewhere. It's something I've brought up a couple of times since but would never get a response. I remember it being only part of a larger commet.
TS, I don't get that hour glass thing in my smartphone so I can't research past comments. I just happen to remember it vividly because it was so shocking. I would say the comment was from 4-6 months ago (?). Maybe somebody can find it if needed, or Steve can just confirm it.
SteveR: I believe they (Roman Catholics) are born again...they just don't know it or how it happened.
A private, personal belief is one thing, but to condone and encourage others to stay put or to tell them they are doing just fine as part of a false religious system, and false on so many provable levels, well...that's a dangerous thing.
Steve, what would your pastors reaction be should he read your posting history? I wonder if he really knows who he has sitting in one of his pews every Sunday. I'm certain you have them all fooled into believing your a pious brother but I would love to hear their reactions should they witness your true colors. Are you aware that you have never once backed up anything you have said using God's Word? The people here do nothing but use His Word to convict the Roman system while you post your hit and run ananthemas; accusing everyone of hatred and calling them liars while never, ever backing up your claims by offering up the evidence that would prove anyone wrong.
I think it's okay to align ourselves with say, Baptists when speaking to others about what and why we believe, along with the statement of faith that best describes what we believe. When it comes to taking a hard stance though, and believing anything and everything that any particular denomination, etc, teaches simply because that's who we are aligned with, well, I think that's when the issues arise. We can align ourselves, but that doesn't mean we can't and shouldn't disagree in certain areas simply because we were taught this way or that way and call ourselves by the same name. I think "followers of Christ" is the most appropriate label and a closed mind is a dangerous thing because some just can't see anything beyond what they have been taught or believe that their favorite pastor/theologian could be wrong.
This is going to br very interesting. I'm really glad they digitized all of these for the world to view. Most people knkw better than to go with me to an art & histkry museum because it's so difficult to get me to leave. I'm always mesmerized by ancient artifacts as each one catches my long curiosity. I don't think we can grasp how different things were way back when.
So...your judgement begins and ends with the observance of good deeds, according to worldly standards? This is your argument proving that the popes are not antichrist? What about the pluthera of false doctrines which work in direct defiance to the very Word of the God they claim to worship and embrace? What about their claim that their diabolical traditions have equal authority to the Word of God; traditions which contradict His Word? Pathetic.
Interesting to read about different ways of life, laws, systems if justice, etc. I never gave it any thought, but I think beheading, as ruthless as it sounds, beats electrocution in the humane arena, so I'm surprised people would call it barbaric. I would say that beheading for some of the crimes is barbaric, along with the vakue of a wwoman's life being only half that of a man, and a non-Muslim a fraction of that of a Muslim, etc. Many US states still have archaic laws on the books like death by firing squad, hanging in Utah, and others. I would say that my keaat desirable way of dying would be by stoning. Imagine the pain and the length of suffering before you body just gives up. Brutal.