Dorcas wrote: I just wanted to share with the SA folks on here,that the "Martyrs Mirror" by T.J Van Braght is a book that I am currently reading that is quite heart wrenching as it tells the stories of many of our Baptist brethren that suffered so much.
Great work Dorcas...in particular mainly "Anabaptist" brethren.
It can be downloaded for free,and I would highly recommend it to all who are interested!
My understanding is that a main driver of forming ECO as opposed to joining other moderately conservative pres denominations was the issue that the alternatives don't accept female pastoral ordination.
I never considered myself a pietist, but I think I know of a dozen websites that endeavor to align with Phil. 4:8,...can the same be said of television stations? Not from what I've seen lately.
Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
Great Sermon! In my opinion the YRR / T4G crowd tends to see God's "love" as His overarching attribute in all too often a sloppy agape manner. This is opposed seeing all God's attributes through the lens of His holiness. Fundamental believers that emphasize a high view of God and His Sovereignty tend to not presume assurance of salvation when their conduct doesn't align with the Scripture...which is what right looks like.
For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
Dorcas wrote: Thanks Gs for those posts. They speak for themselves!
I second that G's. Earlier I was going to ask what Driscoll's appeal is with the YRR crowd... based on the comments, I cab see it's partly due to his rebellious and irreverent attitude. And we know what Scripture thinks of rebels.
Mike wrote: The writer was a blaspheming idiot. There is no NT command to kill heretics
I didn't until recently realize how extensive execution was in that day for alleged heresy- which included believers baptism. There was no justification for such atrocities.
"Anabaptism was made a capital crime. Prices were set on the heads of Anabaptists. To give them food and shelter was a made a crime. The duke of Bavaria, in 1527, gave orders that the imprisoned Anabaptists should be burned at the stake â€” unless they recanted, in which case they should be beheaded. In Catholic countries the Anabaptists, as a rule, were executed by burning at the stake; in Lutheran and Zwinglian states, Anabaptists were generally executed by beheading or drowning."
Calvin pressed for a milder death; â€śI hope that Servetus will be condemned to death, but I desire that he should be spared the cruelty of the punishmentâ€ť â€“ John Calvin (a letter to Farel, 20.8.1553 & â€śTomorrow Servetus will be led out to execution. We have done our best to change the kind of death, but in vain. I shall tell thee when we meet why we had no success.â€ť â€“ John Calvin (a letter to Farel, 26.10.1553).
While the Amish in large part appear to have lost sight of salvation by grace alone, in the area of forgiveness they seem to still exemplify a rare Christ-like attribute consistent of what I have read of the historic Anabaptists.
TeenChristian wrote: Please read "Justification & Regeneration" by Charles Leiter one of the best books I've ever read! (The best book I read was "The Gospel According to Jesus" by John MacArthur)
TC, I appreciate many of the comments you've posted so I'm not piling on here. While I appreciate the ministry of J. MacArthur, most in the conservative reformed camp or fundamentalists for that matter would not fully agree with his view on so-called Lordship salvation. See the link below from the Trinity Foundation that outlines dome problems.
Jim, it is interesting to read Camille Paglia critique the propaganda of herd mentality liberalism...most in those circles aren't equipped to challenge her intellectually and it must frustrate them to no end given it's coming from inside their own camp.
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools... Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. Romans 1:22,32